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#1
After trying a bunch of lucid dreaming techniques and failing at all of them because I'm too lazy, I'm going to attempt this tonight.

http://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/WILD-The-Five-Phases-Of-WILD

Anybody ever tried it before or have experienced sleep paralysis before?
#3
I was lucid briefly before. Dream kinda skipped some middle stuff and I was in a place I wasn't the moment before with my friend. I asked him if it was a dream and he stared blankly. I asked again, the same. Then I woke up. Strange experience. I've also died in my dreams too but that's a different story. Sleep paralysis sucks too.
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I was lucid briefly before. Dream kinda skipped some middle stuff and I was in a place I wasn't the moment before with my friend. I asked him if it was a dream and he stared blankly. I asked again, the same. Then I woke up. Strange experience. I've also died in my dreams too but that's a different story. Sleep paralysis sucks too.

Ya but when you do the WILD technique you dont have to worry about remembering it because your mind is awake all the way through it. That is also why I want to do this technique because I dont remember my dreams so if I went lucid I wouldn't even remember. And ya I heard SP sucks but it is an easy way to enter lucid dreaming so I'm gonna try. I admit I am really scared to do it though. People say they hear things like children laughing and see dead babys everywhere when they do it. But it will be worth it to lucid dream (I hope).
#5
I'm pretty sure I lucid dream quite often. I seem to be quite aware I'm dreaming a lot and I can control my dreams. It reminds me of LSD in the sense of how I feel in my dreams. My mindset is quite the same as if I had took some blotter.
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I'm pretty sure I lucid dream quite often. I seem to be quite aware I'm dreaming a lot and I can control my dreams. It reminds me of LSD in the sense of how I feel in my dreams. My mindset is quite the same as if I had took some blotter.

Your one of the lucky few. I have experienced a dream where I knew I was dreaming but I didn't control it. And again I could barely remember it anyway so thats why I'm hoping WILD will help. I'm almost about to back out though because I'm reading what some people see when they go into sleep paralysis and it sounds hella scary.
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Your one of the lucky few. I have experienced a dream where I knew I was dreaming but I didn't control it. And again I could barely remember it anyway so thats why I'm hoping WILD will help. I'm almost about to back out though because I'm reading what some people see when they go into sleep paralysis and it sounds hella scary.


I've never seen anything under SP, but it sure as hell shocks you when you wake up and can't move.
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Your one of the lucky few. I have experienced a dream where I knew I was dreaming but I didn't control it. And again I could barely remember it anyway so thats why I'm hoping WILD will help. I'm almost about to back out though because I'm reading what some people see when they go into sleep paralysis and it sounds hella scary.

Once I remember being asleep and I got up and started to sleep walk but I could see what I was doing as if I was awake. I just couldn't control what I was doing or talk. It's similar. I tried walking out of my front door in the middle of the night while my step-mom at the time was wondering if I had gone senile.
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#9
When I read lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis in the same sentence, I thought you were planning to remain conscious during sleep paralysis, which would be crazy as hell.
#11
That article was really interesting! I'll try it tonight.
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#12
This happens to me at least 5 times a month and it isn't fun. Actually I take that back it wasn't fun at first but I eventually got used to it.

The last time went down like this.

I open my eyes and can't move. That's no surprise as it happens fairly often but then a new experience happened. I hear the door open and then hear someone slowly walking down the stairs. Now I'm starting to panic a little bit because I haven't experienced this before.

Next I see someone walking around my room using a cell phone as a flash light. I'm staring at them the entire time wondering if this is really happening, eventually the "person" walks back up the stairs and I snap out of it.

I don't lock my front door so maybe it was real but I doubt it. Was a rush nonetheless.
#13
Jeez, seems like a lot can go wrong in the transition phase...

2 questions though:

Do you really have to sleep, wake up, and then do it, or can you just jump into it?

Can you listen to music while doing this?
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#14
If you can't do it naturally learning to LD is hard as hell. I've been trying off and on for a few years and still haven't gotten it down. Haven't given up trying, though.
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When I read lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis in the same sentence, I thought you were planning to remain conscious during sleep paralysis, which would be crazy as hell.

Actually that is what your doing. Your completely conscious while it is happening which is why it can be so scary. The trick to remain conscious is to hold still as you are sleeping. When your mind wants to go to sleep it will send your body to sleep first by sending it signals to test if it is awake or not. Some signals it will send are the urge to roll or to itch. So the trick is to try to resist these urges and keep your entire body as still as possible until your brain thinks it is asleep and sends it into paralysis. The purpose of paralysis is to make sure you stay still why dreaming. If you didn't do it and you were for example running in your dream, your physical body would be trying to run as well. So your brain paralyzes it to keep it still. The trick is to be awake while this is happening which will then make it very easy to enter a lucid dream.

Jeez, seems like a lot can go wrong in the transition phase... 2 questions though: Do you really have to sleep, wake up, and then do it, or can you just jump into it? Can you listen to music while doing this?

To be honest, this is the first night I'm going to try it however some of my friends have tried it and experienced it but both of them did it after sleeping a while. One of them did it by setting an alarm in the middle of the night and the other did it after he woke up in the morning. However you can just jump into it and you will enter sleep paralysis, but it will be difficult to enter the lucid dream.

Also I'm not sure about the music thing. Some articles said to be in a quiet environment or else you will lose focus. I havn't tried it yet. I'm still trying to accept the fact that I'm about to basically intentionally give myself a nightmare that will basically feel and look completely real.
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#17
WILDs are fun as hell. Just stay calm during sleep paralysis... Even though it may be terrifying at points, remember that absolutely nothing bad can happen to you.

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When I read lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis in the same sentence, I thought you were planning to remain conscious during sleep paralysis, which would be crazy as hell.


Um... That's what the state of "sleep paralysis" is defined as - being conscious while your body goes to sleep.

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Jeez, seems like a lot can go wrong in the transition phase...

2 questions though:

Do you really have to sleep, wake up, and then do it, or can you just jump into it?

Can you listen to music while doing this?


It's much, much easier to wake up in the middle of the night and try it, as you're already in the REM stage of sleep.

And I've never tried it with music. Though, considering you have to relax and concentrate mostly on rhythmic breathing and inducing a "falling" sensation... I think music would be a distraction. Maybe something ambient would work though.
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This happens to me at least 5 times a month and it isn't fun. Actually I take that back it wasn't fun at first but I eventually got used to it.

The last time went down like this.

I open my eyes and can't move. That's no surprise as it happens fairly often but then a new experience happened. I hear the door open and then hear someone slowly walking down the stairs. Now I'm starting to panic a little bit because I haven't experienced this before.

Next I see someone walking around my room using a cell phone as a flash light. I'm staring at them the entire time wondering if this is really happening, eventually the "person" walks back up the stairs and I snap out of it.

I don't lock my front door so maybe it was real but I doubt it. Was a rush nonetheless.

Try to learn how to enter a lucid dream while paralyzed. The way I understand it, you are supposed to basically imagine yourself leaving your body and picture what you look like inside your bed and then you are lucid dreaming. I am still yet to try it though.
#19
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WILDs are fun as hell. Just stay calm during sleep paralysis... Even though it may be terrifying at points, remember that absolutely nothing bad can happen to you.


Um... That's what the state of "sleep paralysis" is defined as - being conscious while your body goes to sleep.


It's much, much easier to wake up in the middle of the night and try it, as you're already in the REM stage of sleep.

And I've never tried it with music. Though, considering you have to relax and concentrate mostly on rhythmic breathing and inducing a "falling" sensation... I think music would be a distraction. Maybe something ambient would work though.

Finally somebody that has experienced it. I have some questions.

Were you able to do it the first night you tried it?
Do you always see or hear scary things in SP?
Is it hard to not get scared?
Exactly how did you enter the lucid dream from SP?
Is it worth it?
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#20
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Um... That's what the state of "sleep paralysis" is defined as - being conscious while your body goes to sleep.


Whoops, my bad. I had assumed sleep paralysis is just where your body paralyzes itself in preparation for sleep, and the transition into sleep paralysis is where all the freaky stuff happens.

I meant to say that becoming lucid and taking control of what happens during sleep paralysis is a crazy idea. Better stock up on porn the day before!
#21
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Finally somebody that has experienced it. I have some questions.

Were you able to do it the first night you tried it?
Do you always see or hear scary things in SP?
Is it hard to not get scared?
Is it worth it?


Hmm...

I don't remember if I was able to do it on my first attempt. Probably not. A lot of people aren't successful their first time. But I've noticed that people sometimes experience SP the night after reading about and discussing it.

You don't ALWAYS see or hear scary things, but there's usually a feeling of... surreality, or something? While there aren't always hallucinations, some people might get unnerved by the entire surreality of the situation.

When there ARE hallucinations... Yeah, it can be tough not to get scared, especially if you're still unfamiliar with the experience.

But it's worth it A very interesting way to enter lucid dreams, and I've heard it allows for the most stable ones as well.

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Whoops, my bad. I had assumed sleep paralysis is just where your body paralyzes itself in preparation for sleep, and the transition into sleep paralysis is where all the freaky stuff happens.

I meant to say that becoming lucid and taking control of what happens during sleep paralysis is a crazy idea. Better stock up on porn the day before!


Ah, I suppose you have a point. I'm actually not sure now, what it refers to.
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#22
i tried this for a LONG time.
I never had the patience and couldnt go to sleep on an empty stomach haha.

but if you do the minor meditation before you go to sleep, youll get LUCID ASS dreams no matter what.

Like concentrating on your breath, clearing your mind, and listening to the static noise of your thoughts, you WILL get lucid dreams.


I was always going for Astral Projection, and that takes months and months maybe even years of practice to get perfect, but its way worth it


After a while of doing it, your dreams get so lucid, that youll notice something and consciously think "this cant be real" then youll realize youre in a dream and youll have control of what youre doing in it
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#23
One time I was able to masturbate while in sleep paralysis. It was weird as shit, I was hallucinating too.
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#24
Yes. It's quite difficult to WILD succsesfully. A good technique is to drink a glass or two of water before bed, which will cause you naturally to wake up after an REM cycle. The hard part is calming yourself down, and falling back asleep again without fully waking up.

This might not help to tell you this, but you also have to watch out when you start entering sleep paralysis that you don't get too excited. That happened to me once, in that I got so excited about being conscious of entering sleep paralysis that I couldn't fall asleep. Lame.
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#25
you can enter sleep paralysis with deep relaxation, you dont have to wake up to experience it.

If you concentrate on your breath and visualize it going in and out of your lungs, and keep your mind focused without it wandering and also not move any part of your body, youll slowly start feeling your body's natural vibrations and soon after, your fingers will probably twitch.

It's crazy its like youre half aware that your finger just moved and not sure if it happened or not. but after that your body starts vibrating like crazy and you can feel them going up and down the length of your body
#26
hallucinating body feelings it awesome

shits crazy! I remember i felt like my body was spinning like someone parachuting but down into nothing, and it felt like I was shaking violently

I want to do DMT so bad, but to procure some... is a different story. I'd probably waste the bark cause of my lack of fine chemistry
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#27
ive been trying for months, its incredibly difficult (for me at least), my advise is staying up as late as you physically can, without starting to actually fall asleep, your brain will force you straight into REM sleep as a protective measure, also try in the middle of the day, i know this sounds counter intuitive, but if your tired an nap, you go straight to REM, as it does not know how long you will be asleep
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hallucinating body feelings it awesome

shits crazy! I remember i felt like my body was spinning like someone parachuting but down into nothing, and it felt like I was shaking violently

I want to do DMT so bad, but to procure some... is a different story. I'd probably waste the bark cause of my lack of fine chemistry

DMT is everywhere. Get practising on your chemistry set!
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#29
I've tried WILD twice before but the intense buzzing feeling I get is too scary/unpleasant for me so I'm not going to try it anymore. I think I have had about three lucid dreams without trying, one or two of them caused sleep paralysis. My first two SP's consisted of feeling my bedsheet pulled back and hearing a demonic voice. I've had two other SP's aswell and I have decided I don't want to try lucid dreaming if it means getting sleep paralysis. It's not too scary but I would rather try avoiding it.
#30
ALSO ALSO ALSO...... You can do this when you first wake up, IIRC. You wake up, and without moving you just lay there. Robert Monro, who studied astral projection for basically his whole life, found that this was the easiest way to get into it, when your body is fresh out of REM and is more easily "tricked" back into it. Just do that deep relaxation technique and bam.
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#31
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DMT is everywhere. Get practising on your chemistry set!


Not here where I live... You'd have to know the guy producing it on a personal level to get some. No one constantly makes it, here it's all about meth and weed.

When I move up to santa cruz with my brother, shit. ITLL BE EVERYWHERE ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER DRUG IVE EVER WANTED HEHEHENAHAJERHAEHHAHJEHF
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Not here where I live... You'd have to know the guy producing it on a personal level to get some. No one constantly makes it, here it's all about meth and weed.

When I move up to santa cruz with my brother, shit. ITLL BE EVERYWHERE ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER DRUG IVE EVER WANTED HEHEHENAHAJERHAEHHAHJEHF

I mean it is in a very large amount of plants, all over the world.
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#33
I'm experienced in all areas of lucid dreaming. Once you have your first one you will keep having them. Sleep paralysis sucks. It's exactly what it sounds like. You can't move your body at all. Also I know of a couple really good lucid dreaming forums. They are active, but not nearly as busy as UG. I'm sure you could find them.

Remembering your dreams is key in lucid dreaming. If you aren't even doing that regularly, then how can you have a lucid dream? Good luck brother, it's a skill that's hard to learn. It is a learnable skill though.

EDIT: Whoops ur already on dreamview lol
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#34
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I mean it is in a very large amount of plants, all over the world.

ah true, shouldve read it that way.

it really is literally everywhere
its ridiculous that it's illegal... ITS THE SPIRIT MOLECULE FOR CHRISTS SAKE!
#35
I had a dream I was paralyzed once. It was only from the waist down though. It was really cool though because I was a police officer. I didn't get to use my legs but I was making up for it by having a very strong uppoer body. I had a wife who was pregnant for like 8 years or something and a very attractive son (in a platonic way). I was paralyzed by falling off a roof trying to stop the grinch from stealing christmas.

Anyway I live on Spooner street with my best buds Cleveland, Peter, and Quagmire.
#37
I have some experience with lucid dreaming. In-dream lucid dreaming, and WILD. I've never fully completed the WILD, but i have entered a very interesting state while trying. My entire body vibrated while i was going through a tunnel of blue and purple flashing vision, with my thoughts echoing in my head. I have tried quite a few times, but never make it to the complete WILD state.

With regular lucid dreaming, i've done that a fair few times. I had my own dream journal that i wrote in every night, and it helped a fair bit. Lucid dreaming if a very interesting experience.. and i'm going to continue experimenting with it for a very long time.
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#38
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I've tried it a few times a year or two back and got so f*cking close. But I got very nervous and my heartbeat like crazy so I couldn't bridge the final gap. I was already having hallucinations on my eyelids and it felt like the room was vibrating.

It can drive you insane, but the pay-offs sounds worth it. I actually stopped because I was too afraid of what I might see in my dreams, it was kind of a dark time. Not to mention the horror stories I've heard about sleep paralysis.

I can't get anywhere near now anyway, I'd like to try again.

That sounds very much like my WILD attempts. We're at the same level.
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#39
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I have some experience with lucid dreaming. In-dream lucid dreaming, and WILD. I've never fully completed the WILD, but i have entered a very interesting state while trying. My entire body vibrated while i was going through a tunnel of blue and purple flashing vision, with my thoughts echoing in my head. I have tried quite a few times, but never make it to the complete WILD state.

With regular lucid dreaming, i've done that a fair few times. I had my own dream journal that i wrote in every night, and it helped a fair bit. Lucid dreaming if a very interesting experience.. and i'm going to continue experimenting with it for a very long time.

I had the first paragraph too.
#40
I've managed to get lucid once, a few other times almost but I woke up. it was very weird, as I wasn't sure how to go about imagining things. I kind of thought "okay, I amnow capable of flight" and after a while I started to move around...it was really weird, as instead of controlling my actions I was controlling what I saw/what happened to me. There was a bit of a delay/lag to all of my movements, and if I thought something like "when I turn around, I will no longer be in the city and be over a mountain". I was probably going about it wrong, but that was my self-controlled dream.

Also being the kind of asshole I was I decided to make myself able to throw fireballs from my hands . However the farthest I got here was making very faint, transparent red points in my palms.

I wish I could do it for real
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