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#2
I would go with the Razorback. But in my honest opinion, I feel that the ML would be more well constructed and set up better. Ifyou're looking for br00tality and some good shredding then the Razorback. If you're looking for versatility, then the ML.
#3
i would go withe the ML, but it doesnt truly matter. theyre both basically the exact same guitar, just one has less pokey points than the other and the body woods are different. i would take the Mahogany body over the basswood, but it again thats just my opinion
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#4
Neither. Yea, I said it. They both suck horribly. BUT I would go with the '79 ML.
#5
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I would go with the Razorback. But in my honest opinion, I feel that the ML would be more well constructed and set up better. Ifyou're looking for br00tality and some good shredding then the Razorback. If you're looking for versatility, then the ML.

The thing is Dime never played Razorbacks however he did play that ML. But I do want a guitar that's really heavy (Look at my signature to get an idea of what I usually play). But that finish/paint on the ML is really sexy. But wouldn't the Razorback grab more people's attention, because of that exotic look it has? It's hard to pick.
#6
If it really must be an outrageously shaped dean (really?!) go with the 79 series. It's at least slightly better quality (mahogany>basswood) and you'll be able to pull it off better in more situations. Please do think carefully about it though.
#7
Quote by demon.guitarist
If it really must be an outrageously shaped dean (really?!) go with the 79 series. It's at least slightly better quality (mahogany>basswood) and you'll be able to pull it off better in more situations. Please do think carefully about it though.

Not just shape. Like the Razorback has a cooler shape (Because of the sharp points). But the ML has a cooler paint/finish. But like I said, not just the appearance, I want a guitar that's heavy.
#8
out of those two i would go for the ml.
but you should really consider what you're buying here
remember.
tone>looks of guitar.
so pretty much grab something else if you don't want to
waste your money.
#9
I'd go with that tobacco burst ML no question, the better looking of all three in my opinion. It's Mahogany which is a bonus too.
#10
Quote by Amrator
The thing is Dime never played Razorbacks however he did play that ML. But I do want a guitar that's really heavy (Look at my signature to get an idea of what I usually play). But that finish/paint on the ML is really sexy. But wouldn't the Razorback grab more people's attention, because of that exotic look it has? It's hard to pick.


Check out ESP and their LTD series. WAAAAY better guitars, and they still do wacky shapes if thats what floats your boat. In my experience (dont flame me for this), most guitarists look down upon razorbacks and dean guitars, a quick search will tell you all you need to know
#11
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Neither. Yea, I said it. They both suck horribly. BUT I would go with the '79 ML.

Dude, I can't get something that's more than $600 dollars. I'm only 14 years old! I don't have a job, I'm still in school.
#13
Quote by Goat Head Stew
If you want heavy in weight, a Mahogany wood Dean will get you that. The ML is Mahogany

I'm talking about distortion heavy dude.
#14
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Dude, I can't get something that's more than $600 dollars. I'm only 14 years old! I don't have a job, I'm still in school.

i got my jackson dx10d with seymour duncans for under 600$ and i can assure you it will shit on any of those guitars any day of the week easily.
be smart about your money check out all brands just wait around im sure other will make suggestions.
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i got my jackson dx10d with seymour duncans for under 600$ and i can assure you it will shit on any of those guitars any day of the week easily.
be smart about your money check out all brands just wait around im sure other will make suggestions.

Nah dude, I want to get a Dean.
#16
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Dude, I can't get something that's more than $600 dollars. I'm only 14 years old! I don't have a job, I'm still in school.


Id advise you to steer away from dean and get something that wont embarass you in a few years time.

ESP LTDs like I said
The PRS SE would be a great choice - no Floyd but do you have to have that?

EDIT: Jacksons are great for the type of music you like too

I also forgot Schecter, who do some good budget guitars designed for metal
Oh and Ibanez
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#17
Quote by Amrator
I'm talking about distortion heavy dude.



From the descriptions it looks like the Razorback would get you heavier sounds. The ML description says the pickups can get you the blues, which tells me its more versatile but not as specialized for metal as the Razorback. So if you want straight Metal I think the Razorback is geared more towards that.
#18
So the ML isn't good for metal? Then how did Dime get those heavy riffs out of it?
#19
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So the ML isn't good for metal? Then how did Dime get those heavy riffs out of it?



That's not what I said. You stated you wanted something Distortion heavy. From the descriptions it looks like the Razorback is specialized for Metal, while the ML shoots for versatility. I'm sure the ML will get you Metal just fine.
#20
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That's not what I said. You stated you wanted something Distortion heavy. From the descriptions it looks like the Razorback is specialized for Metal, while the ML shoots for versatility. I'm sure the ML will get you Metal just fine.

If I already have a B.C. Rich Warlock then aren't I good for metal? Because I have two Fenders but they're broken. So shouldn't I go for the ML?
#21
Sincerely, I think you should cut that "I MUST GET A DEAN" crap. Don't try be more "metal" or "br00talz". Just get a guitar that SOUNDS good to you, if you try those guitars compare them to other guitars at a GUITAR STORE and you find that you actually preffer the Deans, then it's ok, but from what I can tell, your just buying Dean because of the name.
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#23
Quote by Amrator
If I already have a B.C. Rich Warlock then aren't I good for metal? Because I have two Fenders but they're broken. So shouldn't I go for the ML?



The ML looks to be more versatile than the Razorback in switching from different styles of music. That's what I get from the descriptions.
#24
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Sincerely, I think you should cut that "I MUST GET A DEAN" crap. Don't try be more "metal" or "br00talz". Just get a guitar that SOUNDS good to you, if you try those guitars compare them to other guitars at a GUITAR STORE and you find that you actually preffer the Deans, then it's ok, but from what I can tell, your just buying Dean because of the name.



I agree with this, but he is dead set on getting a Dean so I'm trying to help him out in that respect.
#25
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The ML looks to be more versatile than the Razorback in switching from different styles of music. That's what I get from the descriptions.

Because isn't a Warlock just as heavy as the Razorback?

And Demon, I'm not ignoring you bro.
#26
Quote by Amrator
Because isn't a Warlock just as heavy as the Razorback?

And Demon, I'm not ignoring you bro.



It most likely is because they both probably come stock with ceramic magnet humbuckers which is great for hard edge Metal. It depends on what you want. You want more versatility in sound go for the ML. If you want all out brutal metal go for the Razorback. They both can do Metal though.
#27
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Sincerely, I think you should cut that "I MUST GET A DEAN" crap. Don't try be more "metal" or "br00talz". Just get a guitar that SOUNDS good to you, if you try those guitars compare them to other guitars at a GUITAR STORE and you find that you actually preffer the Deans, then it's ok, but from what I can tell, your just buying Dean because of the name.

All of This.

You're probably not going to like the floyd rose after a while either (if it's your first floyd guitar). Seriously there are plenty of other options available for $600, but if you feel that you have to get one of those 2 guitars and won't save up to get something better, get the ML.
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#28
*Sigh* Alright, give me suggestions for other guitars guys (No more than $600).
#29
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*Sigh* Alright, give me suggestions for other guitars guys (No more than $600).



What kind of features do you want?
#30
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What kind of features do you want?

What do you mean?
#31
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What do you mean?


Active vs Passive pickups? Do you still want a floyd? Preferred body shape? A one trick pony metal guitar or a versatile guitar?
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What do you mean?



Do want something with a Floyd Rose vs. a fixed bridge? Do you want a single cut vs. double cut or another body design? What kind of wood do you want? What kind of scale length? Do you want a fat neck vs. thin neck. Do you want it for versatility or all out metal?
#33
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Active vs Passive pickups? Do you still want a floyd? Preferred body shape? A one trick pony metal guitar or a versatile guitar?
What do you mean? Yes, I do want a Floyd Rose. Any cool looking guitar. It doesn't matter.
#34
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What do you mean? Yes, I do want a Floyd Rose. Any cool looking guitar. It doesn't matter.

Active pickups require a 9 volt battery and are used by some of the bands in your sig. Passive pickups do not require a battery and it is said that they have a warmer tone to them. Cool is also a subjective term, is a les paul like shape or a start style shape ok or do you want something extreme?
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#35
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Active pickups require a 9 volt battery and are used by some of the bands in your sig. Passive pickups do not require a battery and it is said that they have a warmer tone to them. Cool is also a subjective term, is a les paul like shape or a start style shape ok or do you want something extreme?
It doesn't matter. I want something extreme and exotic looking sorta like a Razorback and B.C. Rich (But I already have a Warlock).
#36
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What do you mean? Yes, I do want a Floyd Rose. Any cool looking guitar. It doesn't matter.


Do you want something that will sound good stock, or do you plan on modding with new pickups?


If you want something that would sound good right out of the box without mods at that price range, I would suggest ESP's LTD line or Ibanez
#37
Holy crap this thread hurt to read through...

I saw a budget, I don't see a location and if you're willing to go used or not, and I'm not seeing what amp you're playing through. That info helps more than just "cool looking" and stuff.
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