#1
Alright. Hopefully there is someone who has a knowledge of recording and would love to share. Here is my situation:

I currently record a lot of guitar + vocal covers using a Canon Vixia HV30. After noticing the sound quality was lacking, I purchased a RODE Videomic which was definitely a step up, but still was not at the level I was expecting.

Canon Vixia HV30: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-HV30-Definition-Camcorder-Stabilized/dp/B00114PN1U/ref=sr_1_cc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303176133&sr=1-1-catcorr

Rode Videomic: http://www.amazon.com/Rode-VideoMic-Directional-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B0007U9SOC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303176086&sr=8-1

I use a fairly cheap program, Nero, to record directly to the computer using a firewire connection. Nero is a fine for rendering videos, but doesn't really have any editing features for audio, so I'm looking to expand towards a better program for doing so. Nero also will not let me record from different units, such as the USB mic that I currently own (Samson CO1U) and the video camera at the same time. When recording with just the USB microphone (no video), the sound quality is much better even though this is just a mediocre microphone. Another piece of equipment that I have but have rarely used (even though I'm sure it would work wonderfully) is a Yamaha Audiogram6.

Samson CO1U: http://www.amazon.com/Samson-CO1U-USB-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B000AP1RE8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1303176446&sr=1-1

Yamaha Audiogram 6: http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Audiogram-6-audio-interface/dp/B001F1WNAS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303176490&sr=1-1-catcorr

So here's the challenge. I'm looking for a high-quality program that can record video, preferably through the firewire from the HD camera while recording audio from a high-quality microphone through either the audiogram unit or some sort of pre-amp setup. If there is no program that can do this effectively, I am looking for a program that can take video and audio and sync them together so there is no lag between the audio/video. I have attempted to do this with Nero and I've never been able to successfully align both tracks. Also, whether this is within the same program or not, I would also like to have some software in order to do some editing on the audio.

Also, I have a PC and not a Mac.

With this being said, if I can find a decent setup that this will work with, I would also like to purchase a new microphone.

So let's say I limit this to $500. What would you suggest I do in order to achieve my goals and get the best quality hardware/software?

Let's say I increase this limit to $1000. What would you suggest then?

Thanks for your feedback. Feel free to question anything I may have left out.

-Riley
#2
Download Reaper (it's free if you don't want to pay but you should after 30 days, it's only £25)
Record all your audio in this...
Render it.
Film yourself playing the song.
Use Windows movie maker to match the film with the audio (or a Sony Vegas if you're willing to pay/get a cracked version).
This is your result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQT13tc9IZ4
#3
what my band usually does is record a take micing everything, just like we'd do to record anything else. we'll have someone take video during that take, and we'll match the two up in video editing software.
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#4
sorry, hawk_kst beat me to it. but yeah thats the easiest way, and you DEFINITELY don't have to pay $1000 to get decent quality
Quote by evening_crow
As far as i know the only liquor that should not be stored after opened is wine, and even then it's mainly the french one. American wine usually has conservatives in it to stop this.
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Quote by htsktim91989
sorry, hawk_kst beat me to it. but yeah thats the easiest way, and you DEFINITELY don't have to pay $1000 to get decent quality

Haha sorry bud
Also, forgot to mention, if you want sick audio quality definitely look into a Line 6 Pod, they're great for recording, I use the x3 Live for everything, it's great for either amp sim or actually miccing stuff up!
#6
Quote by hawk_kst
Download Reaper (it's free if you don't want to pay but you should after 30 days, it's only £25)
Record all your audio in this...
Render it.
Film yourself playing the song.
Use Windows movie maker to match the film with the audio (or a Sony Vegas if you're willing to pay/get a cracked version).
This is your result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQT13tc9IZ4


To be honest, most of my covers are concentrated on the vocal work and less the guitar. However, do you record the audio and video at the same time with Reaper? Does Reaper record in High Definition? Last time I used Windows Movie Maker I didn't recall there being a HD output option (at least 720p). Also, even though guitar audio/video doesn't appear to lag, it's much easier to tell vocals being off (even if it is very small) in video/audio. Plus, I'm willing to spend the money to get the higher quality equipment; microphone, software and what not. I feel that even though I could accomplish these tasks with very little money, I'd prefer to have a better overall setup.

So if you guys actually had that money and it had to be spent to do what I have mentioned above, what equipment would you use. Remember, my emphasis is on the vocals.

-Riley
#7
Quote by whoanonstop
To be honest, most of my covers are concentrated on the vocal work and less the guitar. However, do you record the audio and video at the same time with Reaper? Does Reaper record in High Definition? Last time I used Windows Movie Maker I didn't recall there being a HD output option (at least 720p). Also, even though guitar audio/video doesn't appear to lag, it's much easier to tell vocals being off (even if it is very small) in video/audio. Plus, I'm willing to spend the money to get the higher quality equipment; microphone, software and what not. I feel that even though I could accomplish these tasks with very little money, I'd prefer to have a better overall setup.

So if you guys actually had that money and it had to be spent to do what I have mentioned above, what equipment would you use. Remember, my emphasis is on the vocals.

-Riley

Reaper is a DAW and is for recording audio only. Your best bet is to record separately and then later match the film with the audio
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#8
Quote by col50
Reaper is a DAW and is for recording audio only. Your best bet is to record separately and then later match the film with the audio


What do you suggest for matching these? I've been hearing Sony Vegas Pro is going to be the best option. Any other opinion? Any opinion on what type of microphone should be used for the vocals?

-Riley
#9
Quote by whoanonstop
What do you suggest for matching these? I've been hearing Sony Vegas Pro is going to be the best option. Any other opinion? Any opinion on what type of microphone should be used for the vocals?

-Riley


DAWS like Ableton have incorporated video support
Logic and Pro Tools have had it for a longer time though.

Rock on
#10
Quote by whoanonstop
What do you suggest for matching these? I've been hearing Sony Vegas Pro is going to be the best option. Any other opinion? Any opinion on what type of microphone should be used for the vocals?

-Riley

Sony Vegas is incredible, really easy to use and has more types of outputs then you will ever need (=
I use an AT2020 mic to record Vocals and acoustic guitar and it's wicked.

Sony Vegas=
Reaper= £25 http://www.reaper.fm/
AT2020= £89 http://www.andertons.co.uk/studio-microphones/pid10824/cid604/audio-technica-at2020-condenser-mic.asp?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=pricecomp&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping
Sony Vegas 10= £85 http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+vegas+10&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=6759836221063758135&sa=X&ei=03OtTdvcMNSw8QObwtHyAQ&ved=0CFoQ8wIwAA#

Well within your budget (=
The thing about the mic is you'll need an interface for it to go into like a mixing board or a Line 6 Pod...
#11
Quote by hawk_kst

The thing about the mic is you'll need an interface for it to go into like a mixing board or a Line 6 Pod...


The Audiogram unit should work for this, correct?

-Riley
#12
My inevitable solution is going to be running a camera with an external mic input so that the syncronization is based off the video timecode, a la-no sync issues. Running a mic and a pre will make it sound fancy! For now, I just have to deal with editing playback speeds to match frequency with external mic sources using Audacity or Acid.