#1
I play in a death metal band and I need a 50 watt (or thereabouts) amp head that can handle it. Multiple channels are a plus (I definitely wouldn't need more than 3) but I would like it to able to do clean too. I wouldn't like to pay more than $1000. Tubes are necessary.
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#2
You will find that amps with 100 or so watts are going to be more common within that specification.

If you need good cleans, then I would say something like a Mesa Duel Rec ( go for a 2nd hand 2 channel ) or a 2nd hand Mesa MKIV?

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#3
How well would you like to do cleans? That generic recommendation would be a Peavey 6505. However if you need cleans I'd avoid it.

Like Tom said 100 watt's may be the better way to go. Does that $1000 include a cab? At any rate I'd look into a Mesa Single Rec, or a Dual Rec if you can swing it, 2 channel much preferred.
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#4
Or you go for a 2nd hand Roadking combo?

though I dont know how much they go for stateside.

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#5
The cleans don't have to be spectacular, just not the worst in the world. As long as the EQ is decent it shouldn't be TOO much of a problem. I wouldn't be using them in the band, I would just like to have the option of cleans when I'm playing alone.
The cab is not included. And I'd rather not get 100 watts.
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#6
when you play metal, 100 watts is not noticeably louder than 50.

if anything, 100 watts head room is much better than 50 watts of head room when you play metal as you want to avoid power tube distortion like the plague.

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#7
Exactly what he said ^ Power tube distortion will kill your metal tone. 100 watts is what you want to get, it also allows you to have a bigger selection when choosing amps.
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#8
I mean, if it HAS to be 50 watts, the only thing I can recommend is an ENGL Screamer and a boost.

Otherwise I have no experience with any other amps at the 50 watt point

But I will just add this, there is a reason amps like the 6505/dual rectifiers/Invaders/Herbert are 100 watts and over.

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#9
peavey 6505 combo, mesa single rec/rectoverb, peavey vypyr 60, are what come to mind.
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#10
I hate how many people on here say powertube distortion won't give you a good metal tone. Makes me want to bang my head on a brick wall. How do you think people play their 6505's or Dual Recs live?

I'd say get a Single Rectifier if you're really set on a 50W. If you can, try out a Jet City 50W, it may not quite suit you, but it can get brutal especially with the right speakers and a boost. Plus it's only $500 if you want to save some cash.
#11
Quote by ChrisBW
I hate how many people on here say powertube distortion won't give you a good metal tone. Makes me want to bang my head on a brick wall. How do you think people play their 6505's or Dual Recs live?

I'd say get a Single Rectifier if you're really set on a 50W. If you can, try out a Jet City 50W, it may not quite suit you, but it can get brutal especially with the right speakers and a boost. Plus it's only $500 if you want to save some cash.


Those amps have headroom, that's how they avoid too much power tube distortion.
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#12
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Those amps have headroom, that's how they avoid too much power tube distortion.


Lol thanks for the pro tip. I mean you're "right" but.... I had a Single Rec and currently use a JCA50 and I play metal. Even with a 50W going above 6 on the master is excessive in any situation for normal people.
#13
Quote by ChrisBW
Lol thanks for the pro tip. I mean you're "right" but.... I had a Single Rec and currently use a JCA50 and I play metal. Even with a 50W going above 6 on the master is excessive in any situation for normal people.


Honestly you are pretty much right. Especially if wherever he's gigging has a PA. And I just realized my frame of reference for when tubes break up is a El84, not the best. 6l6 tubes will have a lot more headroom. So yeah, a 50 watter would be just fine.

However the selection does open up a bit if you include 100 watters in your search.
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#14
Quote by ChrisBW
I hate how many people on here say powertube distortion won't give you a good metal tone. Makes me want to bang my head on a brick wall. How do you think people play their 6505's or Dual Recs live?

I'd say get a Single Rectifier if you're really set on a 50W. If you can, try out a Jet City 50W, it may not quite suit you, but it can get brutal especially with the right speakers and a boost. Plus it's only $500 if you want to save some cash.



Those amps don't reach powertube break up until around 8/9.


TS check out the 5150 combos, they are 60 watt 212 and MIA and are easily convertible into a head and cab combination.

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#15
K I guess I would consider 100 watts and over than.
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#16
Look into a Bugera 6262 or something to that effect. My buddy plays a 6262 combo and it sounds awesome. Only costed him 600 bucks.

The make amps on a budget which have plenty of gain. And usually 120 watts or so.
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#17
yeah I've got the Bugera 333XL 120watt 2X12 combo, that can get a really distorted tone, especially in the high gain channel. But it is of course a combo..