#1
Hey all!
My new band is very much inspired by the 90s, more so specifically:
Foo Fighters (the most)
Nirvana
STP
Dinosaur Jr

I have an Epiphone Les Paul Studio with SD distortion and '59, Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (the one with the celestion speaker), and a Marshall Jackhamer OD (which can get a good sound out of.)

I'm looking for a:
Chorus
Flanger
anything else???
Price: Around $100 USD each
Dont know much about what to get so any ideas are appreciated!
#2
For distortion (or fuzz) try; Boss DS-1 or DS-2, ProCo Rat, Big Muff Pi, Tubescreamer or an MXR Distortion +.

Chorus; Boss CE-1, EHX Small Clone or MXR Stereo Chorus.

Flanger: EHX Electric Mistress, Guyatone Flanger or MXR Micro Flanger.

I'd consider a phaser, too - either in addition ot instead of the flanger. MXR Phase 90 or even Phase 100 should do the trick. A delay is handy, too. Boss DD-3 or DD-7. Ibanez re-released their old analogue unit a couple of years ago - the original was great, I haven't tried the reissue and it may be a tad pricey, but hunat around. The MXR Carbon Copy is a good delay, too, again it may be out of your range, although CL or eBay could be your friend.
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#3
Guitar an amp are good choices. Your main problem is that the Foo fighters are quite different from Nirvana and Dinosaur Jr.
But you should be able to get a set up that favours all of them.
If you're happy with your distortion then stick with it.
I'd Recommend either one of the Boss chorus' or an EHX Small clone.
Not sure on a Flanger all I can say is avoid anything too cheap (i.e. Danelectro FAB- I made that mistake ).
As said already you might like a phaser (MXR are good) or maybe a Tremolo (Boss TR2).
Gear:
Fender American Tele (Lefty)
Squier Affinity Strat (Lefty)
Boss DS-1
EHX Small Clone
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
Laney LG12
Danelectro FAB Flanger (Rubbish)
#4
Nirvana recorded Nevermind and bleach using a vox ac15 and a cheap strat so that's got to be a pretty safe bet.

In general 90's grunge uses a JCM800 and either a strat or an LP depending on how thick you want the sound to be. Pedals and FX are optional.
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#5
Go for the EHX Small Clone Flanger and Chorus. Fuzz pedals are essential if you want the messed up, Dinosaur Jr.-esque sound. They use a Big Muff. A reverb would be a good idea as well, maybe the Marshall reverb pedal (forgotten it's name), it's pretty cheap and has some awesome sounds.
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#6
I'd pick up a fuzz, Big muff is a good start. The muff is a huge part of Dinosaur Jr's sound. You can make it do some of the foo's hairier stuff as well I would think.
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#7
Quote by CorduroyEW
Nirvana recorded Nevermind and bleach using a vox ac15 and a cheap strat so that's got to be a pretty safe bet.


Really?
I thought Kurt used his touring rig (Mesa Studio pre-amp, crown/crest power amps and Marshall cabs), a Fender Bassman for some songs and a Vox AC30 for some clean tracks.
He also used his Jaguar, Competition Mustang and Japanese Strats for guitars. (On Nevermind)
Bleach I thought was on A Univox through a borrowed Fender twin.
But Hey
Gear:
Fender American Tele (Lefty)
Squier Affinity Strat (Lefty)
Boss DS-1
EHX Small Clone
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
Laney LG12
Danelectro FAB Flanger (Rubbish)
Last edited by I'mOnAPlain at Apr 21, 2011,
#8
^ what he said, you can watch a youtube video about it.

Ds-1/Pro co = nirvana, Big Muff = mud honey
#9
Thanks Everyone!
Quote by I'mOnAPlain
Guitar an amp are good choices. Your main problem is that the Foo fighters are quite different from Nirvana and Dinosaur Jr.
But you should be able to get a set up that favours all of them.
If you're happy with your distortion then stick with it.
I'd Recommend either one of the Boss chorus' or an EHX Small clone.
Not sure on a Flanger all I can say is avoid anything too cheap (i.e. Danelectro FAB- I made that mistake ).
As said already you might like a phaser (MXR are good) or maybe a Tremolo (Boss TR2).

How do you like your EHX Small Clone?
#10
Yeah it's great, can go from light chorused chords to heavily modulated Nirvana style chorus. It's really versatile and much better than others I tested/heard.
Gear:
Fender American Tele (Lefty)
Squier Affinity Strat (Lefty)
Boss DS-1
EHX Small Clone
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
Laney LG12
Danelectro FAB Flanger (Rubbish)
#11
Either an old (and I mean OLD) DS-1 will get you Kurts main sound... But that'd cost a shed load!

A Proco-Rat wad used later by Kurt, and Grohl uses/used one on earlier foo stuff
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#12
A Telecaster is in my opinion a great grunge guitar. Gets a great raw sound with distortion, perfect for ripping on your strings.
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#13
touring rig? what touring rig? they were nobody for a while after Nevermind came out. The record label was going to shelve the record until a dj started playing the shit out of "smells like teen spirit". I don't think he had that rig yet. He was homeless for awhile when Nevermind first came out. I would bet they used a lot a the studio they tracked at.

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Quote by I'mOnAPlain
Really?
I thought Kurt used his touring rig (Mesa Studio pre-amp, crown/crest power amps and Marshall cabs), a Fender Bassman for some songs and a Vox AC30 for some clean tracks.
He also used his Jaguar, Competition Mustang and Japanese Strats for guitars. (On Nevermind)
Bleach I thought was on A Univox through a borrowed Fender twin.
But Hey
#14
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he bought a load of the gear used for the recording with the advance the record label gave them. And even so they were still filling up decently sized venues with fans of the Bleach album, so they would still be getting some money. Also if you look in live videos before the release of Nevermind you can clearly see a small rack-mount and Marshall cabs. I'm just relating what I've heard only a few people know what Kurt truly used and that's besides the point, for a Nirvana sound all you need is a cranked tube amp, a humbucker (preferably) equipped guitar, a DS1 (later he sometimes used a DS2 and more often a Tech 21 Sans amp classic), and a Small clone.
Gear:
Fender American Tele (Lefty)
Squier Affinity Strat (Lefty)
Boss DS-1
EHX Small Clone
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
Laney LG12
Danelectro FAB Flanger (Rubbish)
#15
Quote by I'mOnAPlain
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he bought a load of the gear used for the recording with the advance the record label gave them. And even so they were still filling up decently sized venues with fans of the Bleach album, so they would still be getting some money. Also if you look in live videos before the release of Nevermind you can clearly see a small rack-mount and Marshall cabs. I'm just relating what I've heard only a few people know what Kurt truly used and that's besides the point, for a Nirvana sound all you need is a cranked tube amp, a humbucker (preferably) equipped guitar, a DS1 (later he sometimes used a DS2 and more often a Tech 21 Sans amp classic), and a Small clone.


I'm sure most of the nirvana guitar sound would be in single coil guitars not humbucker ones? :S

Also, as far as i'm aware Kurt used loads of different stuff, i read somewhere that he played into a clipping PA amp one time and put it into his cabs...
#16
Quote by Gord@k
A Telecaster is in my opinion a great grunge guitar. Gets a great raw sound with distortion, perfect for ripping on your strings.

Liking the idea of a new guitar
I know this is the wrong place, but I thought it would be ok to ask this so I don't have to start a new thread
Digging the Fenders. Any recommendations???
I like Teles, Jags, or Jazzmasters!
#17
Quote by Zoot Allures
I'm sure most of the nirvana guitar sound would be in single coil guitars not humbucker ones? :S

Also, as far as i'm aware Kurt used loads of different stuff, i read somewhere that he played into a clipping PA amp one time and put it into his cabs...


Don't know about the PA thing but sounds like something he'd do
If you look at pictures of him playing his Jag had 2 humbuckers, Mustangs had bridge humbuckers, Strats had bridge humbuckers.
Btw He also used SD hot rails.
Don't mean to turn this into some Nirvana gear discussion thread or anything
EDIT: In answer to your question about Fenders: Telecasters are great if you like the way they look (it's a Marmite thing), A Jaguar would cover the Foos although for the heavier stuff you might want a Humbucker one. And J Mascis uses a Jazzmaster so
Gear:
Fender American Tele (Lefty)
Squier Affinity Strat (Lefty)
Boss DS-1
EHX Small Clone
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
Laney LG12
Danelectro FAB Flanger (Rubbish)
Last edited by I'mOnAPlain at Apr 22, 2011,
#18
Yeah I'd suggest either a jaguar or jazzmaster w/ humbuckers. Obviously Dave uses an ES-335 but that doesn't mean you couldn't get FF tone from a fender
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#19
Quote by JAHellraiser
Yeah I'd suggest either a jaguar or jazzmaster w/ humbuckers. Obviously Dave uses an ES-335 but that doesn't mean you couldn't get FF tone from a fender

Yeah, I was eyeing up the Classic Player Jazzmaster with P90s, so could that handle the music?
I know it would be great for Dinosaur Jr, but what about the others.
#20
Jazzmasters don't have P90s, they have Jazzmaster soapbar pickups. P90s are Gibson pickups and Jazzmaster pickups are very different in terms of construction and tone. The only thing they have in common is looks.

That said, the the pickups in the CP Jazz are hotter than vintage correct and try to capture some of the P90 tone. They don't have quite the lower mid balls that P90s have but they're still fantastic pickups. They're a little brighter and a little rounder. I've been A/B testing the CP Jazz and a SG Classic for months now so I've noticed a few things. It can easily handle all the tones you're looking for.
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#21
Quote by androidred0100
Jazzmasters don't have P90s, they have Jazzmaster soapbar pickups. P90s are Gibson pickups and Jazzmaster pickups are very different in terms of construction and tone. The only thing they have in common is looks.

That said, the the pickups in the CP Jazz are hotter than vintage correct and try to capture some of the P90 tone. They don't have quite the lower mid balls that P90s have but they're still fantastic pickups. They're a little brighter and a little rounder. I've been A/B testing the CP Jazz and a SG Classic for months now so I've noticed a few things. It can easily handle all the tones you're looking for.


Thanks man!
Great to know the difference between the pickups. Cant wait to try a Jazzmaster out!


Alright. Sorry to keep this thread going so long. But now to fuzzes and phasers. I've heard mixed reviews on the EHX Big Muff. Any comments and/or other fuzzes to look at?
Phasers: MXR Phase 90? I have no clue on those things??!!!
Last edited by Slash_fanboy at Apr 22, 2011,
#22
No prob man. The world needs more Jazzmaster players.

Phase 90 is like, the standard phaser. There might be better out there, but there are also a lot worse. Given their simplicity of ease, classic tone and decent price, IMO you can't go wrong.

I personally like the tone of Big Muff Pi and the new one with the Tone Wicker switches, to me, sound pretty spiffy and it'll get you anything from Hendrix to Smashing Pumpkins and a fair amount in between. Look up some videos on youtube to see which one is right for you since there's a few variations of it.

As an alternative, the Way Huge Swollen Pickle is everything the Big Muff fails to be. It's smoother, richer, and even a little louder than a regular NYC Muff. The Tone Wicker is definitely louder than the Pickle but it's also a little 'chunkier' I guess. I'm not sure if that's the right word, you'll have to look up videos or find them at your music store and listen for yourself. What I AM sure of tho is that for the price of 1 Swollen Pickle you can get 2 Big Muffs. Or 1 Big Muff and 1 Phase-90.
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Epi SG w/ Gibson Burstbuckers
Epi Casino
PRS Kit
Thinline Tele w/ SD 1/4 Lbs
Warmoth JM

Vox Nightrain
Marshall Class 5

Boss RC-20
DT EX-7
EHX Q-Tron +
EHX Big Muff Pi w/ Tone Wicker
Line 6 Echo Park

My PRS with SD P-Rails Build
#23
Quote by androidred0100
No prob man. The world needs more Jazzmaster players.

Phase 90 is like, the standard phaser. There might be better out there, but there are also a lot worse. Given their simplicity of ease, classic tone and decent price, IMO you can't go wrong.

I personally like the tone of Big Muff Pi and the new one with the Tone Wicker switches, to me, sound pretty spiffy and it'll get you anything from Hendrix to Smashing Pumpkins and a fair amount in between. Look up some videos on youtube to see which one is right for you since there's a few variations of it.

As an alternative, the Way Huge Swollen Pickle is everything the Big Muff fails to be. It's smoother, richer, and even a little louder than a regular NYC Muff. The Tone Wicker is definitely louder than the Pickle but it's also a little 'chunkier' I guess. I'm not sure if that's the right word, you'll have to look up videos or find them at your music store and listen for yourself. What I AM sure of tho is that for the price of 1 Swollen Pickle you can get 2 Big Muffs. Or 1 Big Muff and 1 Phase-90.


I like the Phase 90. Nice and easy
Any difference between the block and script logos sound wise? I know ones a reissue
Thanks
#24
Technically I don't know but given that one is a reissue, that one probably sounds more like the original where as the non-reissue sounds close to the original but is made with more modern/cheaper components and digital circuitry therefore altering its tone. Whether or not you prefer the 'new' sound versus the 'old' sound is entirely up to you. If you really want to determine which is best for your needs, look up clips of the two A/B tested and actively listen or better yet, go to a music store and try 'em out yourself.
MY GEAR
Epi SG w/ Gibson Burstbuckers
Epi Casino
PRS Kit
Thinline Tele w/ SD 1/4 Lbs
Warmoth JM

Vox Nightrain
Marshall Class 5

Boss RC-20
DT EX-7
EHX Q-Tron +
EHX Big Muff Pi w/ Tone Wicker
Line 6 Echo Park

My PRS with SD P-Rails Build
#25
Quote by androidred0100
Technically I don't know but given that one is a reissue, that one probably sounds more like the original where as the non-reissue sounds close to the original but is made with more modern/cheaper components and digital circuitry therefore altering its tone. Whether or not you prefer the 'new' sound versus the 'old' sound is entirely up to you. If you really want to determine which is best for your needs, look up clips of the two A/B tested and actively listen or better yet, go to a music store and try 'em out yourself.


Thanks for all the help man