#1
This guitar is looking very nice to me lately. To me it seems a little reminiscent of a Gretch white falcon. Do you think this guitar is worth the price tag? The first thing I would do would be dropping in some tv jones classics, would I end up with a guitar similar to higher end ones? I play indie rock music similar to foals, young the giant, two door cinema club, local natives. I have a vox ac30 amp.

Also would the cheaper Royales sound good if I put the same pick ups in?


Unfortunately the only place it is for sale right now: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Limited-Edition-Emperor-Swingster-Royale-Electric-Guitar-H64924-i1560524.gc

http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=2257
Last edited by szejna at Apr 20, 2011,
#2
for those bands, I would look into a Telecaster (two door), or Epiphone sheriton II (Local Natives). I mean, with an AC30, the guitar sound is up to you since you have the right amp.
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#3
the guitar sound is up to you since you have the right amp

I'm not sure what you mean here
#4
I think he means that you have the right kind of amp for that kind of music. But every guitar sounds slightly different, so it's up to you what kind of guitar tone you're going for.

The swingster is an awesome guitar. I almost bought one last summer but I was short on cash and I didn't want to go into debt. But they play so smooth! And the series / parallel switching (via push/pull pots) is awesome. You can get some really unique tones out of it. And these are the only guitars with a bigsby-type of tremolo in this price range that come standard with roller saddles (at least that I know of) - and that's a huge plus for keeping it in tune.

It's a really awesome guitar. A little big - closer to a true acoustic than an electric. But worth it if you don't mind the size and the occasional feedback with higher gain.
Current Gear:
2002 Gibson Les Paul Standard
'57 AVRI Fender Stratocaster
MIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH
Marshall JVM410
Vox AC15 C2
#5
yes, that is what i meant
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

#6
closer to a true acoustic than an electric

I'm very interested in this. A lot of bands seem to have full hollow bodies lately, Is this much bigger than a casino
#7
Quote by szejna
I'm very interested in this. A lot of bands seem to have full hollow bodies lately, Is this much bigger than a casino

The casino has a thin/wide shape, like an ES-335. The swingster is more gretsch-like in it's dimensions. It might not be as wide as the casino, but it definitely has a thicker body.

When I said it was closer to a true acoustic, I meant that it felt larger than the Epi Dots and Ibanez Artcores I played in comparison. There are some jazz guitars out there that are the same size as a full-size acoustic. The swingster isn't quite that big. But it's bigger than a Dot. Does that help?
Current Gear:
2002 Gibson Les Paul Standard
'57 AVRI Fender Stratocaster
MIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH
Marshall JVM410
Vox AC15 C2
#8
Quote by 57Goldtop
The casino has a thin/wide shape, like an ES-335. The swingster is more gretsch-like in it's dimensions. It might not be as wide as the casino, but it definitely has a thicker body.

When I said it was closer to a true acoustic, I meant that it felt larger than the Epi Dots and Ibanez Artcores I played in comparison. There are some jazz guitars out there that are the same size as a full-size acoustic. The swingster isn't quite that big. But it's bigger than a Dot. Does that help?


yes very much thank you, I like gretsch guitars quite a bit. To get a real idea of the size I guess I just need to go to the store.
Thanks

Any other suggestions for indie rock guitars? I know very broad
#9
You might also like a solid body guitar with P-90s. You can get a good indie/pop/punk sound out of those.

Here are a few you might like:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Junior-Electric-Guitar-105499271-i1434504.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Studio--60s-Tribute-Electric-Guitar-H71142-i1909326.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-SG-Special--60s-Tribute-Electric-Guitar-H71136-i1909379.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Classic-Player-Jazzmaster-Special-Electric-Guitar-104907183-i1397677.gc#customer-reviews
http://www.guitarcenter.com/PRS-SE-One-Korina-Electric-Guitar-423589-i1516805.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Worn-1966-Wilshire-with-Tremotone-Electric-Guitar-H71823-i1819085.gc

I could recommend some other hollow or semi-hollow guitars (like the Dot, Ibanez Artcores, Epi Sheraton, Casino, etc...). But out of all of those the Emperor Swingster is my favorite, so I'd say go with that one if you really want to go the hollow-body route.
Current Gear:
2002 Gibson Les Paul Standard
'57 AVRI Fender Stratocaster
MIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH
Marshall JVM410
Vox AC15 C2
#10
Quote by 57Goldtop


Just for the record, and you're not really wrong for recommending this, but the Jazzmaster does not have P-90s.


For Indie Rock though, there is such a diverse amount of different guitars you can use that you can pick up pretty much anything (i.e. not "metal" guitars) and make it sound great, especially with the AC30 you have. But at a certain point you need to decide for yourself exactly what kind of guitar tone you want, and then decide on what guitar you want.
Actually, I go by Dave, but there are already too many Daves on this forum.


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Fender Excelsior 13w
Acoustic B300HD (with matching 1x12 cab)
BOSS BD-2W
NYC Big Muff Pi
#11
Quote by kangaxxter
Just for the record, and you're not really wrong for recommending this, but the Jazzmaster does not have P-90s.


For Indie Rock though, there is such a diverse amount of different guitars you can use that you can pick up pretty much anything (i.e. not "metal" guitars) and make it sound great, especially with the AC30 you have. But at a certain point you need to decide for yourself exactly what kind of guitar tone you want, and then decide on what guitar you want.

Oh yeah, I know But it fits the style so i figured I'd put it in the list. I should have commented on that...

And you're completely right. Indie rock can be played on almost anything. It doesn't have to be something with P-90s. They do have a good jangly raw sound though, which fits that kind of music IMHO.
Current Gear:
2002 Gibson Les Paul Standard
'57 AVRI Fender Stratocaster
MIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH
Marshall JVM410
Vox AC15 C2
#12
Ya I have a guitar I custom built with some p90s, but I like the jazzmaster alot when I get a chance I will check that out but I really want to try a swingster.

I could recommend some other hollow or semi-hollow guitars (like the Dot, Ibanez Artcores, Epi Sheraton, Casino, etc...). But out of all of those the Emperor Swingster is my favorite

why do you like it over the casino?
#13
The casino is a cool guitar. I just like the fact that the swingster comes standard with a bigsby-type of temolo, roller saddles and series / parallel switching. Those are all things you could certainly add to the casino (although adding a bigsby to a hollow body takes a bit of work). But since the swingster already has them it edges out the casino in my book.
Current Gear:
2002 Gibson Les Paul Standard
'57 AVRI Fender Stratocaster
MIJ Fender Jaguar Special HH
Marshall JVM410
Vox AC15 C2
#14
So the swingster royale or the normal swingster? Is there difference in sound or just aesthetics?
#15
I play indie too, with Two Door Cinema Club as one of my main influences. My band is even called The Basement People :p
What guitars do you already have? I recommend having a Tele, as they are pretty much the perfect guitar for most indie stuff. But, for a second or third guitar, the Swingster would be pretty cool. It looks to me to be a Gretsch copy, and would probably be competing with a Gretsch Electromatic, so be sure to try one of those out too.
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