#1
I don't care to take anyone's tone. I am more looking how to create a great stoner tone from the gear I have.

guitars
. esquire w/ texas special
. duo sonic bridge humbucker, neck lipstick tube
. Strat single 14k humbucker in the bridge
.harmony with 2 p90 looking singles

Amps
. Peavey Classic 30 Union jack speaker, jj tubes
. GK MB200 bass head (in the mail) w/ peavey rage 158 converted into a closed back 1x10 cab

Pedals
.Dano Fabtone
.Digitech bad monkey
. Russian newer big muff (fingers crossed it still works)
.Boss OC-3

The other guitarist plays a jazzmaster or gibson SG, through a bogner alchemist.

I am looking for a good grinding growl thats not overly distorted, a natural tone. Also if I use the bass amp, can I max out the octaves on the oc-3 and be able to switch to a convincing bass sound?
#2
if you tune to, say, drop c and use a bass amp with an OC-3 it will sound very "low" and bassy but not like a bass.

if you use your harmony with p90s into your peavey and eq it a little you could probably get a nice stoner tone, p90s aren't so bad for stoner but they aren't my preference

just experiment with your gear and see what you like
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Set everything to 12 o'clock.

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#3
You have an Esquire and a Big Muff Pi and you're confused as to how to get a good Stoner tone?


EDIT:

On second thought: What Stoner Bands do you like, or which tones are you trying to emutate? Youtube links are good.
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Last edited by JustRooster at Apr 21, 2011,
#4
On my amp I put Bass 10 Mids 4 Treble 4 and run a big muff with the tone at about 3 o'clock and the sustain full. That is plenty to get you a decent stoner tone. An OC-3 would add a fair bit of wicked to it. Just play around with your distortion and your bass cranked
#6
what tuning do you use ? And you're after stoner rock right, not stoner metal ?

If you're after some Qotsa, Kyuss or Fu manchu, you should go for C standard or D standard... but bands like Clutch (if you can really call em stoner rock) use standard tuning if I'm not mistaken.

Besides that, you might need a neck humbucker, and roll your treble back a bit on your amp... I'm not sure about that though.

Edit: btw depending on what you aim for, you might not want too much distortion, and look for something a bit more overdriven.
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#7
I like the melvins, kyuss, and listened to some electric wizard on pandora they were good as well. Yea I mean stoner rock not metal, I am not a metal fan mostly the vocal part though.

I consider Clutch a heavy blues rock band.

I really like my duo sonic, but I promised it to my girlfriend

Are the layers of over drive and distortion always going to cause feedback? and if so could shielding the pickup cavities or anything help with the noise when I'm not playing?
#8
Okay, so you'll actually want to get a nice blues setting on your Classic 30. You'll want something that's not over snarly, but gritty. The Esquire will be fine to use with that if you blend the neck and bridge.

Then you take your Big Muff and you set your sustain rather high, your gain mid/high, and your tone to a bassier setting. What this will do is give you that Smashing Pumpkins kind of ring and viscosity, with that snarly kinda crunch.

These are pretty much the mirrored settings I use when I cover "A History of Bad Men" and "Civilized Worm." If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me. I'll take the time and work out EQ on my Strat, Blues Jr, and Big Muff to emulate yours.
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#10
Sounds good to try, but fyi esquire is a tele without a neck pickup.

I guess what I am seeing, is that punk, grunge, and stoner rock are just heavier versions of the latter, and all follow in the mentality that you any guitar, amp, and pedal combo can make a nice usable tone, be it solid state/tube, single coil/humbucker, scale, distortion/fuzz/overdrive
#11
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what the **** is "stoner rock"
It's the good shit. Go listen to Kyuss.
#12
Quote by askrere
Sounds good to try, but fyi esquire is a tele without a neck pickup.

I guess what I am seeing, is that punk, grunge, and stoner rock are just heavier versions of the latter, and all follow in the mentality that you any guitar, amp, and pedal combo can make a nice usable tone, be it solid state/tube, single coil/humbucker, scale, distortion/fuzz/overdrive



Not entirely true.
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#13
Quote by smb
It's the good shit. Go listen to Kyuss.


Epic advice.

OT: I find as long as you crank the bass and minimize the treble it becomes a simple matter of balancing the mids to where you're happy.
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#14
Quote by JustRooster
Not entirely true.


Far as I know I had a MIM telecaster, I put texas specials in it, never used the neck so I got a GFS esquire pickguard and rewired it. If I go back then it will be a tele again. Maybe that's cheating because of the headstock, but the only other option for a two pickup esquire is this

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Custom-Shop-Limited-Esquire-2Pickup-Electric-Guitar?sku=423504

Or I own one of the original switch overs to broadcasters with the esquire neck.

Either way if I was that lucky, rich or old I doubt I'd be asking about stoner rock tones