Poll: Should he be able to donate his organs?
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View poll results: Should he be able to donate his organs?
Yes
237 94%
No
11 4%
I dunno
4 2%
Voters: 252.
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#1
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42667886/ns/health-health_care/?GT1=43001

Thoughts? I'm not looking for a debate on the death penalty. Just wondered what you thought of him being denied the ability to donate.
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#2
This is retarded.

That's all I can say.
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#3
This is stupid. If he wants to donate his organs, he should be allowed to.

“It’s impossible to be sure that a person who is behind bars is making a decision they would make while walking down the street,” says Jeffrey Orlowski, executive director of the Association of Organ Procurement Organizations, the non-profit group that represents the nation’s 58 regional groups.


No shit his decision's based on the fact he's in prison. Why not give him some sort of peace of mind before he dies? Every argument against it that article brought up is bogus.
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#5
I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to donate his organs.
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#6
Oh no, his kidneys are infected with evil!
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#7
There's a shortage of organ donors isn't there? Aren't there always commercials about it and stuff? So when someone steps up, why tell them no if he's going to die anyway? I doubt the guy with kidney failure is going to say "No! I can't have that kidney, it came from a convict!"
Seems like a decision based off stupid principles, rather than based off logic.
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#12
Quote by Dr. Paul R. Helft, director of the Charles Warren Fairbanks Center for Medical Ethics and Indiana University
“I don’t think we want to be the kind of society that takes organs from prisoners. To do so would be to use unfree prisoners as a means to an end."

He also makes a good point, though. Prisons shouldn't become organ farms.
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#13
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He also makes a good point, though. Prisons shouldn't become organ farms.

Forcing them to take it would be, allowing them to donate if they want is different.
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He also makes a good point, though. Prisons shouldn't become organ farms.


As long as such a thing isn't being forced against prisoners, and those who don't want to donate don't get farmed [and shit in place to make sure], there can't be anything wrong.
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He also makes a good point, though. Prisons shouldn't become organ farms.


But the prisoner wants his organs to be taken, it's not as if they're picking up anyone's organs.
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#16
Surely if someone has been sentenced with the death penalty and not given the decision of what happens to their organs it should be the other way round? As in, they should be forced to donate organs?
I don't understand this at all.
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#17
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Surely if someone has been sentenced with the death penalty and not given the decision of what happens to their organs it should be the other way round? As in, they should be forced to donate organs?
I don't understand this at all.

I imagine that's probably a human rights violation of some sort.
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#18
He absolutely should be able to. He took life, let him give life.
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#19
Kinda reminds me of that Simpson episode where Homer gets Snake´s hair and tries to kill Bart.

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Kinda reminds me of that Simpson episode where Homer gets Snake´s hair and tries to kill Bart.

This must be the reason they won't let him.
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#21
Isn't it obvious that criminals have inferior organs? Come on guys.
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#22
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Forcing them to take it would be, allowing them to donate if they want is different.

Sure. But you can see how the idea of getting organs from people essentially forced into cages might make some people uncomfortable.
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#24
Guys, I think you're missing the point. I saw this episode of the Amanda Show, and this guy got a baboon heart and started turning into a baboon. Do you want that to happen with a dangerous convict? It's clear he's just trying to possess whatever poor sap he's donating to.
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#25
I would say let him do it. Yes, he needs to die for what he did, but if his conscience got to him like he said it did in the article, then it at least shows that he wants to make up for what he did in some way. I know people that can benefit from his organ donation. All I ask is that they you put a bullet in his head rather than pump him full of shit to kill. I'm not sure how good the organs would be after getting injected.
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#26
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Sure. But you can see how the idea of getting organs from people essentially forced into cages might make some people uncomfortable.


And if this becomes a common thing, it would make it difficult for people against capital punishment.
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Guys, I think you're missing the point. I saw this episode of the Amanda Show, and this guy got a baboon heart and started turning into a baboon. Do you want that to happen with a dangerous convict? It's clear he's just trying to possess whatever poor sap he's donating to.

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#29
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I imagine that's probably a human rights violation of some sort.

I'm not implying they should do this and that would be wrong, I'm just saying that with it being the other way round it seems backwards. Punishing someone by not giving them the freedom to do something good is counter-productive. I wasn't saying prisoners should be forced to donate, but if the prisons had control over their organs then being forced to donate them would seem the more beneficial option (but still wrong).

EDIT: Also I think the death penality itself is a bit more of a violation of human rights. But we won't get into that
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#30
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And I feel like there's definitely been a Twilight Zone episode on this topic. We'd be fools to let someone keep this guy's organs. I can already see the man walking out of the hospital after getting his kidney replaced, and you zoom in past the scar, and on the kidney's the killer's eyes open up, and it says "end?"
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#31
It would hurt people who needed organs if he didn't, so I say absolutely. But making it a precedent would be strange, although if we're already going to kill prisoners, why not allow people to be helped in the process? The argument against it in the article seems pretty weak
#32
I wonder if maybe it has something to do with the lethal injection? I think it's noble of him to want to donate his organs to try and make up for his crime, but I'm thinking that maybe the chemicals in the injection would damage them and make them unsafe to use.
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I wonder if maybe it has something to do with the lethal injection? I think it's noble of him to want to donate his organs to try and make up for his crime, but I'm thinking that maybe the chemicals in the injection would damage them and make them unsafe to use.


Death by disembowlment then
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#34
The argument that "we shouldn't let murderers feel like heroes" is such BS. Someone dying because they couldn't find a donor isn't going to be thinking "oh well, there goes my life, but at least some criminals still feel bad." This is a very weird case of "good" morality costing lives. No it won't be many lives, as only a few dozen executions are performed a year, but every life counts. All the opponents are ignoring the big picture.
#35
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I wonder if maybe it has something to do with the lethal injection? I think it's noble of him to want to donate his organs to try and make up for his crime, but I'm thinking that maybe the chemicals in the injection would damage them and make them unsafe to use.

I doubt it. It would've been mentioned in the article because that's the only legit reason I can think of for not letting him donate.
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#36
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I doubt it. It would've been mentioned in the article because that's the only legit reason I can think of for not letting him donate.


That'd be the only one I could think of too
#37
I think he should be able to, but I can also see how this may set a bad precedent.
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#38
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I wonder if maybe it has something to do with the lethal injection? I think it's noble of him to want to donate his organs to try and make up for his crime, but I'm thinking that maybe the chemicals in the injection would damage them and make them unsafe to use.


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#39
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I doubt it. It would've been mentioned in the article because that's the only legit reason I can think of for not letting him donate.

What about the argument that letting death row inmates donate their organs might encourage use of the death penalty? Surely we'd want to give judges and juries as little reason as possible to sentence someone to death.
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#40
I would be cautious about getting organs from someone who was killed by lethal injection. Who knows the effects of those chemicals on the body. Then again I'm no doctor.
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