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#1
Hey, i wanna introduce myself, i'm new on u-g forums n i want to start playin guitar.
I'm lookin for som1 to guide me, n when googlin' around found ultimate guitar, realised it was a trusty place to start at, as i recognised it from browsin some reviews etc in the past
I'm looking to start with a fender stratocaster from around 500-600 euros. At first i was gonna get a squier jaguar or jagmaster, but i'd rather get a "real" fender so i won't start complaining soon after starting. I'm totally new n ignorant bout evry spec of guitars, n lookin around for some stratocaster i was astonished cuz they all looked the same, but prices were diffrnt, n different specifications...
http://www.woodbrass.com/en/fender-standard-stratocaster-rosewood-fingerboard-arctic-white-p60592.html
http://www.woodbrass.com/en/fender-60´s-stratocaster-rosewood-fingerboard-3-color-sunburst-p20287.html
http://www.woodbrass.com/en/fender-blacktop-stratocaster-hh-rosewood-fingerboard-sonic-blue-p87652.html
http://www.woodbrass.com/en/fender-standard-stratocaster-hss-rosewood-fingerboard-arctic-white-p60635.html
I only know that blacktops are new, but i read that many ppl dislike that new series...
Which one, should i get? Do u guys recommend me other thing?
Thanks 4 evrything
Greetings
#2
It doesn't really matter which one you'll get since you're just starting out, You should get a decent amplifier though or the guitar will not sound good. You should definitely get thin strings though (Nothing thicker than a set of regular 10s) And get the guitar set up for the specific gauge of strings you're going to use. (Setup is basic maintenance) Also, Once you get the guitar here's a tip: Hold the strings down as lightly as you can when fretting notes or chords. If you hold the strings down too hard when you slide from one fret to the next it'll feel like there are railroad ties beneath your fingers.
Always tin your strings.

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#3
First of all, what kind of sound do you want from you guitar, style do you wanna play?
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#4
Thanks evry1 for replyin, i'll get a decent personal amp from roland or marshall, 15g or less, those that ppl call "practise amps" and that stuff u say bout strings n gauges, i dunno how to replace them atm, so i'd better try to get goin with the ones that the guitar brings, most of em brings som Fender strings: Super 3250L, or 250R.
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#5
Quote by 54Thiago
First of all, what kind of sound do you want from you guitar, style do you wanna play?

Ehm, Punk rock/grunge i'll start with ma fav bands songs
#6
Learn to play on an acoustic(borrow it off someone or buy some cheap shit), kill you fingers, smash your wrists, get the basics down (major and minor open chords and scales) then search up some guides on what to look for in a good guitar, finally go get your fender in a music shop (I know they are overpriced but at least you can try loads of guitars out and choose).
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#7
Of the ones you mentioned, I'd recommend the Standard Strat with the HSS pickup configuration. The humbucker in the bridge will give you some good rock tones, but you'll still be able to get most of the traditional "strat sounds" with the other single coils. It's a pretty versatile guitar. You'll be able to play rock, blues, pop, punk, etc. with it.

As mentioned you'll need an amp. A small combo amp will be good enough since you're just starting out. What's your budget for the amp?

EDIT: just saw your post about the amp. You're heading in the right direction. If you go Marshall stay away from the MG line. I've heard terrible things about those.
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#8
Quote by sfedf1
Learn to play on an acoustic(borrow it off someone or buy some cheap shit), kill you fingers, smash your wrists, get the basics down (major and minor open chords and scales) then search up some guides on what to look for in a good guitar, finally go get your fender in a music shop (I know they are overpriced but at least you can try loads of guitars out and choose).

I hav a friend who owns an acoustic one n also has a heavy metal harley benton. Hes not a pro, also still learnin but we don't see each other that often, and gettin myself a new one is the better way out. And i've alrdy tried goin to some local music shops, but they're not specialised in guitars, n they sell weird brands :S
#9
Quote by 57Goldtop
Of the ones you mentioned, I'd recommend the Standard Strat with the HSS pickup configuration. The humbucker in the bridge will give you some good rock tones, but you'll still be able to get most of the traditional "strat sounds" with the other single coils. It's a pretty versatile guitar. You'll be able to play rock, blues, pop, punk, etc. with it.

As mentioned you'll need an amp. A small combo amp will be good enough since you're just starting out. What's your budget for the amp?

MMh but whats the main diffrnt between all those strats, they look the same. I'll count with the one u recommended.
Bout the amp i'll get a not vry xpensive one, i hav an eye on the ROLAND - CUBE 15XL and the Marshal MG10, they're around 70-80 euros.
PS: read ur edit n i regret of sayin the MG10 , is it as bad as the Fender frontman 10G?
Last edited by KBJAG at Apr 22, 2011,
#10
ive owned fender frontman and MG models (bigger than what you're looking at, but same line) and the fender was far better quality than the MG. It's no top of the line amp by any means, but compared to eachother the FM is far better. I would go with the Roland Cube that you are looking at though, I've heard nothing but good things about those.
#11
Quote by CryogeniX
ive owned fender frontman and MG models (bigger than what you're looking at, but same line) and the fender was far better quality than the MG. It's no top of the line amp by any means, but compared to eachother the FM is far better. I would go with the Roland Cube that you are looking at though, I've heard nothing but good things about those.

Aha thanks for the advice :P
#12
yeah avoid the mg.

consider going up to the roland cube 30- the 15 doesn't have the amp models (which are what make the cube good in the first place). EDIT: if you can't stretch to that, then consider the microcube, or maybe a vox valvetronix or peavey vypyr (their 15 watt models do have amp models).

i'd get one of the strats which has at least a humbucker in the bridge. Those MIM standards only have 21 frets, though, personally i prefer 22. But it's up to you, unless you're playing a lot of lead way up the neck it's not really going to matter one way or the other.
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#13
Quote by KBJAG
MMh but whats the main diffrnt between all those strats, they look the same. I'll count with the one u recommended.
Bout the amp i'll get a not vry xpensive one, i hav an eye on the ROLAND - CUBE 15XL and the Marshal MG10, they're around 70-80 euros.
PS: read ur edit n i regret of sayin the MG10 , is it as bad as the Fender frontman 10G?

The first one and the last one that you listed are exactly the same guitar, but one of them has a humbucker in the bridge vs a single coil in the other one.

The blacktop model has two over-wound humbuckers instead of single coils. Those will be a little hotter for more of a rock sound. I haven't personally played one but I've heard mixed reviews.

The 60's model is looks cool (if you're into the vintage look) but it has a smaller neck radius and vintage-style frets. It's not a bad guitar. But I think the other choices (with medium-jumbo frets and a 9.5" radius) would be easier to play for a new guitarist.

Don't worry about mentioning the MG. That's why you came here right, for advice? As mentioned I'd probably go with the Roland Cube.
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#14
oh yeah i mean i'm not laughing at you for thinking of the mg, you should see some of the crap we bought when we were starting out. Just trying to make sure you don't make the same mistakes we did.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#15
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yeah avoid the mg.

consider going up to the roland cube 30- the 15 doesn't have the amp models (which are what make the cube good in the first place). EDIT: if you can't stretch to that, then consider the microcube, or maybe a vox valvetronix or peavey vypyr (their 15 watt models do have amp models).

i'd get one of the strats which has at least a humbucker in the bridge. Those MIM standards only have 21 frets, though, personally i prefer 22. But it's up to you, unless you're playing a lot of lead way up the neck it's not really going to matter one way or the other.

mmh, don't really know if i'm goin to miss em, so it'd be better to hav 22 there just incase
#16
Quote by KBJAG
mmh, don't really know if i'm goin to miss em, so it'd be better to hav 22 there just incase

As a new guitarist you're not going to notice the difference between 21 and 22 frets. You probably won't get anywhere above the 12 fret for a while Definitely don't make your purchase decision on that alone...
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#17
haha i mean you don't need a million amp models, but having the basics (blackface fender, tweed fender, vox, vintage marshall, 80s marshall, mesa rectifier) will mean that you can cover most tones.

EDIT: oh you're talking about frets

Well, I'd agree that I wouldn't base my decision on that alone, but it's worth bearing in mind if you play stuff which needs the 22nd.
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#18
Quote by 57Goldtop
As a new guitarist you're not going to notice the difference between 21 and 22 frets. You probably won't get anywhere above the 12 fret for a while Definitely don't make your purchase decision on that alone...

hehe yah i realised that 22 frets only gives u one note more to play ^^
#19
Quote by Dave_Mc
haha i mean you don't need a million amp models, but having the basics (blackface fender, tweed fender, vox, vintage marshall, 80s marshall, mesa rectifier) will mean that you can cover most tones.

EDIT: oh you're talking about frets

Well, I'd agree that I wouldn't base my decision on that alone, but it's worth bearing in mind if you play stuff which needs the 22nd.


Yah :P as goldtop said i won't probly go over the 12 fret in long time so...
#20
Trust me, you'll be starting with basic chords as a new guitarist. You won't need more than 21 frets for a long time. And by that point you'll want to upgrade to a 24-fret guitar, not a 22-fret
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#21
Quote by 57Goldtop
Trust me, you'll be starting with basic chords as a new guitarist. You won't need more than 21 frets for a long time. And by that point you'll want to upgrade to a 24-fret guitar, not a 22-fret

24 frets uh, jaguars hav 24 frets right? OHoho imagine if i save up som money and get that 1800$ Vintage modified Jaguar with those shiny plates Nah forget it :P
#22
You could go with one of the Fender Blacktop Strats. Those are a pretty good bang for the buck. You should also check out the Line 6 Spider amps, that would be a good starter amp for you. They have effects on-board and different channels to choose from. Might be a good setup for you.
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#23
Quote by GypsyJive
You could go with one of the Fender Blacktop Strats. Those are a pretty good bang for the buck. You should also check out the Line 6 Spider amps, that would be a good starter amp for you. They have effects on-board and different channels to choose from. Might be a good setup for you.

I'll defo go for that roland amp. lots of features and price is cheaper than the line 6 spider i found.
And i'm starting to like those blacktop series stratocaster, despite that the knobs r diffrnt from the ones from the normal strat... who cares if it's for better, and looks amazing in sonic blue. I think i'll defo go for that 1.
Any other guitar recommendations in the price range between 500-600 euros outside strats or fender?
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#24
Quote by KBJAG

24 frets uh, jaguars hav 24 frets right? OHoho imagine if i save up som money and get that 1800$ Vintage modified Jaguar with those shiny plates Nah forget it :P

Haha... now you're thinking like the rest of us If it weren't for guitar obsessions, what would parents / girlfriends / wives complain about??

Seriously though, you'll probably be happy with the blacktop strat. Honestly at this price range it's not like one of these will be monumentally better than any other one. They'll all be roughly the same quality wise. So if one moves you more than the othes, there's your answer!

EDIT: Check out the newly-released gibsons too. They just came out with a bunch of guitars in the $500-$800 range (USD... sorry, don't know the exchange rate off the top of my head). They're new, so I don't have any personal experience with them, but they look cool
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Last edited by 57Goldtop at Apr 22, 2011,
#26
Quote by 57Goldtop
Trust me, you'll be starting with basic chords as a new guitarist. You won't need more than 21 frets for a long time. And by that point you'll want to upgrade to a 24-fret guitar, not a 22-fret


eh i was playing at frets 22-24 within about 15 minutes of getting my guitar.

Then again I'm an eejit and kinda started with lead

As I said, it depends on what you want to play.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#27
Sorry for being off topic, I just didn't want to start a new thread about this, but what exactly is wrong with the MG series? I've heard so many people complaining about them but they don't go into detail about why.
#28
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Sorry for being off topic, I just didn't want to start a new thread about this, but what exactly is wrong with the MG series? I've heard so many people complaining about them but they don't go into detail about why.

They had some quality issues with them a while ago. From what I hear that's been fixed and it isn't an issue with the new ones. However, most people complain that the tone isn't that great (compared to other Marshalls) and they start to break up and sound awful at louder volumes.
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#29
Please don't spend 600 Euros on something you're only just starting out on, you might end up wasting a lot of money, just buy a cheap 200 Euro Squier (or however much they are), if you get it set up at a guitar shop you won't notice the difference between it and a 600 Euro MIM Strat

If in a while (like 18 months) you realize you've outgrown the guitar, then you should buy a new one, but for now you should spend about 200 Euros on a guitar, 100 on an amp and let's say 50 on accessories (tuner, cable, case, capo and so on [although you may find a starter package deal with this stuff]) and then buy something nice for yourself that isn't guitar related for 250. If you do that I can guarantee you'll appreciate the nice guitar when you get it, but seriously, you really really don't need to spend upwards of 800 Euros on gear to get you started.

Note - If you for whatever reason have a stupid amount of funds and can afford to spend a lot of money then by all means do, but when I started I could have bought a £550 guitar but instead I went for a cheap Epi and when I knew I was really interested in playing guitar I went out and bought that £550 guitar and when I did I was far happier having it than I would have been if I'd bought it from day one.
#30
Quote by TheBlackening91
Please don't spend 600 Euros on something you're only just starting out on, you might end up wasting a lot of money, just buy a cheap 200 Euro Squier (or however much they are), if you get it set up at a guitar shop you won't notice the difference between it and a 600 Euro MIM Strat

If in a while (like 18 months) you realize you've outgrown the guitar, then you should buy a new one, but for now you should spend about 200 Euros on a guitar, 100 on an amp and let's say 50 on accessories (tuner, cable, case, capo and so on [although you may find a starter package deal with this stuff]) and then buy something nice for yourself that isn't guitar related for 250. If you do that I can guarantee you'll appreciate the nice guitar when you get it, but seriously, you really really don't need to spend upwards of 800 Euros on gear to get you started.

Note - If you for whatever reason have a stupid amount of funds and can afford to spend a lot of money then by all means do, but when I started I could have bought a £550 guitar but instead I went for a cheap Epi and when I knew I was really interested in playing guitar I went out and bought that £550 guitar and when I did I was far happier having it than I would have been if I'd bought it from day one.


I get ur point n it's really sensible, maybe it cud happen the same than when i got a ps3 n it was accumulating dust since day 2 from purchase...
But don't think so cos music is much more than a cheap game, i'm really anxious and maybe after some months, or just weeks, even playin the most basic things, i can go paranoid bout my guitar cuz thers a "loud" buzz, or i hav to hit it 2 hard to make it sound ¬¬ or w.e.. y'know
Anyways i'm just saying cos read so many times that squier are like toys, they feel bad n cheap blah blah blah, dunno if it is cuz they compare em to the classic "real" fender model, anyways, i've handled a friends 95 euros heavy metal harley benton n it actually felt decent, it sounded alrite too :O. Hes also a starter n he spent 95 on guitar n 100 on amp, so i hope a 300 euros squier should feel almost like a FENDER or a 500 euros guitar... meh so confusin :S
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#31
How much you spend on gear as a new player is your business. Is it a good idea to spend a ton of cash if you've never played before? Probably not. A lot of people who pick up the guitar quit relatively soon after starting. But again, it's your money. As long as you're ok with the possibly of having to sell your almost-brand-new gear for less than you paid for it, then go for whatever you want.

EDIT: As a sidenote - I've given up on telling new guitarists to buy cheap gear when they start playing. Even though that's what most of us did when we started. For two reasons:

#1 - They don't listen. Some people are dead-set on buying the top of the line whatever, and that's what they have their heart set on. At that point, rational thought is not in the driver's seat and emotion has taken over. So trying to rationalize with them is futile.

#2 - If I can help steer someone's decision on exactly what to buy, based upon the types of music they want to play, maybe I can help them buy the right guitar for them. It might be more money than a new player "should" be paying for their gear, but if it's the right guitar for their style, maybe they'll end up sticking with the hobby. If someone comes to me (or us) for advice, and we just tell them to buy cheap gear instead of actually helping them, chances are they'll end up with the wrong gear for what they want to do, and they'll quit playing very soon after starting.
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Last edited by 57Goldtop at Apr 23, 2011,
#32
Quote by 57Goldtop
How much you spend on gear as a new player is your business. Is it a good idea to spend a ton of cash if you've never played before? Probably not. A lot of people who pick up the guitar quit relatively soon after starting. But again, it's your money. As long as you're ok with the possibly of having to sell your almost-brand-new gear for less than you paid for it, then go for whatever you want.

EDIT: As a sidenote - I've given up on telling new guitarists to buy cheap gear when they start playing. Even though that's what most of us did when we started. For two reasons:

#1 - They don't listen. Some people are dead-set on buying the top of the line whatever, and that's what they have their heart set on. At that point, rational thought is not in the driver's seat and emotion has taken over. So trying to rationalize with them is futile.

#2 - If I can help steer someone's decision on exactly what to buy, based upon the types of music they want to play, maybe I can help them buy the right guitar for them. It might be more money than a new player "should" be paying for their gear, but if it's the right guitar for their style, maybe they'll end up sticking with the hobby. If someone comes to me (or us) for advice, and we just tell them to buy cheap gear instead of actually helping them, chances are they'll end up with the wrong gear for what they want to do, and they'll quit playing very soon after starting.


i'm not that stubborn, at first i decided to get a cheap one, electric though, despite the recomendations of close ppl i know, who keep tellin me to start playin an acoustic one. Then i was like anxious for the strat as it was in the reasonable mid-range priced guitars, but thanks to all of u realised that it's a better way out to start with a cheap one, n a decent amp. I thought that getting a real fender will keep u happy for long long time, as a guitar is not like a pc that gets antiquated n a more xpnsive one will last longer... but as u said i could give up (gettin a more xpensive guitar cud force u to play, but thats stupid if u dislike wat u're doin..) but at the end i can giv up cos not havin free time HOPEFULLY NOT!!!
As my pocket is not exactly big i'll try to go for a squier for around 300 euros, and 80 for the amp and then some more in cable, strap, case...
http://www.woodbrass.com/en/product_info.php?calculport_country_id=222&products_id=23629&
http://www.woodbrass.com/en/product_info.php?calculport_country_id=222&products_id=92539&
My main 2 choices atm, oh i also heard that yamaha pacifica r rly gud in this price range.
Greetz
#33
The vintage modified jaguar has a fixed top-loading bridge - I prefer those over tremolo systems (since I never use them). I've also heard that the pickups are slightly better than the jagmaster (even though they're both duncan designed). It also has concentric tone/volume controls, which means you have a ton/volume control for each pickup. The jagmaster only has one tone volume control for both pickups. Plus, the jaguar is a little cheaper (i.e. - more to spend on accessories). I'd probably go with that one.

Although if you really want to have a tremolo the jagmaster is a decent guitar too. I just prefer guitars without tremolos, so if it were me I'd go for the jaguar.
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#34
Quote by 57Goldtop
The vintage modified jaguar has a fixed top-loading bridge - I prefer those over tremolo systems (since I never use them). I've also heard that the pickups are slightly better than the jagmaster (even though they're both duncan designed). It also has concentric tone/volume controls, which means you have a ton/volume control for each pickup. The jagmaster only has one tone volume control for both pickups. Plus, the jaguar is a little cheaper (i.e. - more to spend on accessories). I'd probably go with that one.

Although if you really want to have a tremolo the jagmaster is a decent guitar too. I just prefer guitars without tremolos, so if it were me I'd go for the jaguar.


Totally agree with u, the jaguar looks slightly better, n with the money saved i can get some nice case n fancy straps
I'll get the cheap case they give free with strats, fender gig bag or standard bag, they'll do the job for at least storin the guitar in my house when not used. As less as possible :P
N bout the trem i think it'd be an useless feature for me.. so instead i can try to get some effect pedal if the budgets allows it.
Thanks for all ur help m8
#35
good advice all around guys. when I bought my first guitar. it was a basic washburn. was too afraid to spend silly money in case I gave up. then later I upgraded. I find that guitars have a habit of multiplying. each has its own special sound and feel and at present I have four. and looking for a new one too,(possibly three or four) if funds allowed. ( which they dont).
my advice dont rush in try a few and be sensible in purchasing. two hundred pounds.250 euros is enough to start out with. when you also have to get all the other stuff.
good luck in you guitar playing journey

Rachel
#36
Quote by dillyslili
good advice all around guys. when I bought my first guitar. it was a basic washburn. was too afraid to spend silly money in case I gave up. then later I upgraded. I find that guitars have a habit of multiplying. each has its own special sound and feel and at present I have four. and looking for a new one too,(possibly three or four) if funds allowed. ( which they dont).
my advice dont rush in try a few and be sensible in purchasing. two hundred pounds.250 euros is enough to start out with. when you also have to get all the other stuff.
good luck in you guitar playing journey

Rachel


Ahaha i hope to not become so enthusiastic bout guitars that fast so my new one last longer n when i decide to upgrade, my pocket will be bigger :P
Appreciate ur advice
#37
Quote by 57Goldtop

#2 - If I can help steer someone's decision on exactly what to buy, based upon the types of music they want to play, maybe I can help them buy the right guitar for them. It might be more money than a new player "should" be paying for their gear, but if it's the right guitar for their style, maybe they'll end up sticking with the hobby. If someone comes to me (or us) for advice, and we just tell them to buy cheap gear instead of actually helping them, chances are they'll end up with the wrong gear for what they want to do, and they'll quit playing very soon after starting.


+1

the problem with cheaping out too much (or getting the "wrong" gear, as you suggested) is that it increases the chances of quitting...
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#38
ahah bout the cheaping... was gonna get a roland cube x15, but as it looks like out of stock, in both, online n store, should i go for the roland micro cube? it's smaller but bit more pricey, this way i'll peak with guitar+amp+ accesories at like 400 euros, but if the upgrade is worth..
I was gonna choose a fender mini deluxe/frontman 10G/ or a marshall mg10 as they are lower priced, but i only hear bad things bout em, n they hav like 4 control knobs lol.
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yeah if you ask me the microcube is better than the cube 15 anyway as it has amp models (the 15 only has overdrive/distortion pedal models, and they're pretty rubbish).

Maybe also consider the vox da5 and mini3... they might even be cheaper than the microcube.
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yeah if you ask me the microcube is better than the cube 15 anyway as it has amp models (the 15 only has overdrive/distortion pedal models, and they're pretty rubbish).

Maybe also consider the vox da5 and mini3... they might even be cheaper than the microcube.


I really like micro cube cos is not as bulky as other amps. vox da5 n mini 3 are like copies of the minicube, i think i'll go for the cube if i don't find nothin better til then, da5 is more xpensive n mini3 costs the same than the microcub.
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