#1
I'm thinking of buying a new Epiphone Wilshire '66 model. The guitar comes stock with mini humbuckers, but I think I'll change them for some P90s.

First of all, what do you think of an Wilshire with P90s? I prefer the tone of single coils to humbuckers, and I love the look (and price tag) of the Wilshire, so it seems like the perfect mix to me.

And, what P90s could you recommend? At the moment I'm thinking of getting either Gibson or Seymour Duncan pups, but can anyone recommend a brand I should look at?

Thanks!
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#2
I liked the way the wilshire played, but it felt slightly cheap to me. I blame the knobs for the volume and tone because they were very loose and the guitar was pretty light.

But overall its a solid buy. I would buy some seymour duncan P90s, and rewire the guts with new pots and a new switch.
#4
I suggest spending 50 bucks less, and getting the wilshire pro, and getting gibson P94s to avoid the routing problem.
#5
Thanks for the input. I played a Wilshire the other week, and it felt fine to me. The neck wasn't the smoothest thing in the world, but then again its a pretty good price for such a nice guitar.

I've read online that P90s are the same size as mini humbuckers with casings, like on the Wilshire, so that might solve that problem. The shop that I'll most likely buy it from stock P90s anyway, so I'll be able to double check on sizes then.
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#6
A friend of mine who is primarily a drummer has played guitar for about a year and bought a Wilshire. I played it once before, but about a month after getting it, there was electronic problems and he asked me to take a look at it. The wire going to the input just came right off. He had never been in the electronics cavity before, so the wiring is pretty shitty from factory. I had it in my posession for a couple of days after and I played it a little bit. The guitar itself felt pretty good, the stock pickups sounded pretty decent to my ears too, but the guitar felt kind of light in a weird way. The only big downfall on this guitar IMO were the tuners. I play Hardcore/Metal primarily and I pick pretty hard, but the tuners on here sucked. It was hard to get in tune and when it was in tune, it didn't stay as long as it should. So I'd say take a look into upgrading the tuners as well as the pickup swap.
#7
When I played the Wilshire, I didn't notice any weight issues. I didn't have much of a go at it, but it seemed alright to me. I'll check it out next time I have a play.

I've never really had much problem with tuners, even on my old Squier guitar. I guess that could be because of my playing style, but I'll keep in mind that they could be a bit dodgy.
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#9
I own a Wilshire Custom with humbuckers and it is a solid guitar. Unless you play with hammers I doubt you are even close to as heavy handed as I and the guitar has no issues at all. Yes it is light weight but,that is a plus to me. If you get the guitar with the mini hums in it I would hold off on replacing them with anything since they are a totally different animal than full size 'buckers. As always play before you pay.YMMV IMNSHO
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#10
I like the idea of putting in P90s because I love their tone, but can't think of any other guitars that I'd like that could fit them. The mini humbuckers were still a little too bucking for me

Does anyone have an opinion on the Tremotone model? I like the look of it, but is it reliable? It'd be difficult for me to get one where I live, but if it's worth I wouldn't mind getting it, almost entirely for the look of it's tremelo
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#11
you're aware that p90s sound not-a-million-miles-away from humbuckers, right? They don't really sound anything like fender-style single coils.

Minibuckers might actually be closer to what you want than p90s...
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#12
To be honest, I haven't heard that before. I wasn't expecting Fender-like sound, and don't really want that seeing as my Tele covers it.

The problem with changing pickups is that they're very hard to try out. You can't just get a guy at a shop to change the pickups on a guitar so that you can try them out.
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#13
A Wilshire with P90s should sound a lot like an SG with P90s so if you can get your hands on an SG Classic, IMO that should be a good gauge of tone. Regardless definitely gut the electronics. My friends and I own numerous Epis and all of them feel and play nicely but all of them have had problems with the electronics; be it bad solders to the output jack, glitchy pots, and especially muddy tone. So definitely gear up on that. Otherwise an excellent choice.
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#14
I should point out that I'm still about a year or two away from this guitar.. I just like to look at things in advance!

Would you say that the guy who sets up and fixes my guitars would be able to do this rewiring? What pots would you recommend I get? If possible, I'd like to get tone pots like those on my tele (they roll on and off treble, and don't add any bass)
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A Wilshire with P90s should sound a lot like an SG with P90s so if you can get your hands on an SG Classic, IMO that should be a good gauge of tone.


yeah probably. If you can get your hands on any mahogany-bodied and -necked set neck guitar with p90s, that should give you a reasonable idea of how p90s would sound in the wilshire. Then just try the wilshire to see how it sounds stock.
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I should point out that I'm still about a year or two away from this guitar.. I just like to look at things in advance!

Would you say that the guy who sets up and fixes my guitars would be able to do this rewiring? What pots would you recommend I get? If possible, I'd like to get tone pots like those on my tele (they roll on and off treble, and don't add any bass)



2 years??
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#17
I know it's a long time to wait, but I'm coming up to a very expensive part of my life.. I need to buy a car and desperately need a new amp within 16 months. It may help if I got a job sooner than later..

I'll definitely try out a P90 SG when I can. The shop near me that stocks Wilshires should have one as well.
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