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possibly.


http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/04/24/042411-news-god-particle-1-3/


Link above, and I've copied the text from gizmodo (it's more fun to read than the daily) below:


Did scientists running the massive Large Hadron Collider finally discover what Einstein eloquently hypothesized was the "mind of God" for the last 30 years of his life? Possibly, yes, if a memo leaked this week turns out to be legitimate.

The memo, which it should definitely be noted has not been properly vetted or undergone peer review, details the discovery of the Higgs Boson, aka "God Particle," which could theoretically be the lynchpin in an equally grandiose-sounding "Theory of Everything." In the most basic of layman's terms, the Higgs is theoretically responsible for giving all particles in the Universe mass.

But—and this is the really important part—did they really find it this time?

Unclear. Please shake and consult again at a later date. Basically, this was a leaked memo, not a peer reviewed scientific paper, and there are any number of reasons a document of this magnitude would be disseminated in such a fashion. Not all of them are good.


Hans Georg Ritter, a physicist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, noted that there might be strategic reasons to leak unvetted results of the sort contained in the memo. "If the stakes are high and if there is competition, the collaborations tend to try to publish earlier than under normal conditions," Ritter wrote in an email. "But those publications have still to follow the scientific process. I think [leaks] are generated as a means of internal positioning for credit." One commenter on Woit's blog had a less skeptical perspective: "Keeping secret the work of 2,000 persons in the age of Internet is just impossible."


Internal positioning for credit! Sometimes I forget that I share so much DNA and evolutionary heritage with scientists. If we don't consider their big, powerful brains, they're all talking crap behind their friends' backs in the office break room just like me!

But! If—and this is a big if—the Higgs has been discovered, the world of physics and humanity could be on the brink of unlocking (or at the very least understanding) some truly fantastical things.


"It's going to open the floodgates for a whole new branch of theoretical physics," [theoretical physicist] Michio Kaku told The Daily. "There are some eternal questions that cannot be answered in the framework of conventional physics. Is time travel possible? Are there gateways to other universes? Are there parallel dimensions?"


Again, all big if's, and if this un-vetted paper is anything like the "We totally found methane alien life in California" debacle form a few months back, it could really be nothing at all. Just an accidentally forwarded email from a scientist at one of the most important particle accelerators in the world regarding literally the biggest physics finding in the history of mankind. No big deal.

In related news, April has been an incredibly hot month for new particles and physics in general. As for the Higgs, the debunking has already begun with physicists like Tommaso Dorigo, a particle physicist at Fermilab and CERN, who has "bet" $1,000 the memo is bogus and the anomaly will be explained away as nothing. But that's science for you.
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Super interesting!

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I don't get how this proves there's a God?
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#9
Hory shet

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This doesn't (As far as I can tell) have anything to do with religion guys. Just a name.
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Hardly.

Hardly anything can prove/disprove god, stop trying and devote time to something a little more important... how about that cancer? Pretty sure it'll exist whether or not God is real
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“We’ll just have to wait and see,” Roser told The Daily


*fast forward months later* Nothing...
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I hope they really did find it and that it leads to some scientific advancements.
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#16
lol theres trolls calling this proving religion

getting trolled by guys saying that this doesnt prove god

who are both trolling the idiots who believe they arent trolling


/triple trolls
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#17
This is SO much more fascinating than the alleged existence of a god. The most important particle in the universe has just been discovered, one that could make time travel possible, and the first thing people think of is, "lol atheists were wrong." ?

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You should probably highlight the parts that say what a Higgs Boson is and the big "ifs" you were saying for people who aren't taking the time to read this

But thanks for posting this I actually was reading up on this when they were first announcing they may have discovered a particle, or force, similiar to a Higgs Boson
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You should probably highlight the parts that say what a Higgs Boson is and the big "ifs" you were saying for people who aren't taking the time to read this

But thanks for posting this I actually was reading up on this when they were first announcing they may have discovered a particle, or force, similiar to a Higgs Boson


If people don't want to read it, it's their problem. Why go on a forum filled with text if they don't want to read?


and no problem
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“We’ll just have to wait and see,” Roser told The Daily


*fast forward months later* Nothing...


This.
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Hardly anything can prove/disprove god, stop trying and devote time to something a little more important... how about that cancer? Pretty sure it'll exist whether or not God is real

I don't try either way, I just point out flawed logic.
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#27
Everyone shut up about this 'could lead to time travel' bull. You make it sound you know what you're talking about, which is a problem since you clearly don't.
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I don't get how this proves there's a God?
It doesn't. It's satire. At least, the actual name of the object is. The discovery of the object itself isn't.
(Or is it?...)
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Everyone shut up about this 'could lead to time travel' bull. You make it sound you know what you're talking about, which is a problem since you clearly don't.



Steve Jobs guy,


why so angry though? this isnt an apple thread.


it 'could possibly lead to time travel' can you disprove that?
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Everyone shut up about this 'could lead to time travel' bull. You make it sound you know what you're talking about, which is a problem since you clearly don't.


I take it you do?
#32
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Everyone shut up about this 'could lead to time travel' bull. You make it sound you know what you're talking about, which is a problem since you clearly don't.


Ok Dr. MrScientistguy, what's this discovery gonna do for us then?
C'mon, I mean we understand the concept BUT WE BETTER NOT DISCUSS IT... in that case you MUST know what this possible discovery means
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Steve Jobs guy,


why so angry though? this isnt an apple thread.


it 'could possibly lead to time travel' can you disprove that?


Yet more originality with the 'Steve Jobs' shit. Haven't heard that one before.

Me catching my toast in the morning could possibly lead to time travel. Suggestion that the Higgs Boson will lead to any substantial time travel whatsoever is completely ignorant and reminiscent of the crap spouted by the tabloid media.
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Yet more originality with the 'Steve Jobs' shit. Haven't heard that one before.

Me catching my toast in the morning could possibly lead to time travel. Suggestion that the Higgs Boson will lead to any substantial time travel whatsoever is completely ignorant and reminiscent of the crap spouted by the tabloid media.


You rage on anyone who doesnt like apple, how isnt Steve Jobs understandable?


you sound like an angry dude, time to take a chill pill.


If everyone thought like you did, we would have never advanced out of living in caves.
"ah hurduh urdur NO YOU CANT THIS DISCOVERY WILL DO NOTHING SCRAP ALL SCIENCE"
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Me catching my toast in the morning could possibly lead to time travel.


Everyone shut up about this 'Me catching my toast in the morning could lead to time travel' bull. You make it sound you know what you're talking about, which is a problem since you clearly don't.
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Ok Dr. MrScientistguy, what's this discovery gonna do for us then?
C'mon, I mean we understand the concept BUT WE BETTER NOT DISCUSS IT... in that case you MUST know what this possible discovery means


The discovery would simply confirm, dismiss or alter the standard model, and potentially provide evidence of what is anticipated to be the final elementary particle, alongside the other bosons and fermions. The Higgs Boson pertains to the implantation of mass, which has the same chance of leading to time travel as any other fundamental physical discovery of the last 50 years, whether it be gluons/WZ bosons/quarks/leptons etc.

It doesn't really mean anything at all in relation to time travel.
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You rage on anyone who doesnt like apple, how isnt Steve Jobs understandable?


you sound like an angry dude, time to take a chill pill.


If everyone thought like you did, we would have never advanced out of living in caves.
"ah hurduh urdur NO YOU CANT THIS DISCOVERY WILL DO NOTHING SCRAP ALL SCIENCE"


What?

I don't rage on anyone who doesn't like Apple in the slightest. For the 17th time I own a HTC desire. I can just see both sides of an argument, rather than jumping on the fanboywagon at the first oppurtunity.

As for the second bit, I don't even know what you're talking about. When have I said scrap all science? I've just said that to proclaim that it could lead to time travel is preposterous.
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The discovery would simply confirm, dismiss or alter the standard model, and potentially provide evidence of what is anticipated to be the final elementary particle, alongside the other bosons and fermions. The Higgs Boson pertains to the implantation of mass, which has the same chance of leading to time travel as any other fundamental physical discovery of the last 50 years, whether it be gluons/WZ bosons/quarks/leptons etc.

It doesn't really mean anything at all in relation to time travel.


http://www.indianexpress.com/news/large-hadron-collider-could-unlock-secret-of-time-travel/765267/

repeat that again, please?
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TS, you might like this too, if you haven't heard already
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13000253


I've heard about it, but I never followed up. that's awesome!
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TS, don't put "FOUND!" in the title if they haven't actually confirmed it yet -_-
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