#1
asking for feedback in a place called the pit might turn out to be not the best of ideas.
I'll risk it anyways - may your bashing be all mine in case you feel I stole your time by asking you:

I have a little something I feel people who love to play guitar should take notice of, and I'm biting my nails a bit to get some feedback, for me and some friends put quite some effort into it.
So here I go asking, stepping into the pit with the following question:
Do you think, this internet project is cool?

thanx for all feedback!
Last edited by MrSnuts at Apr 26, 2011,
#2
Seems good but you can't just take the bass out...well for the few I've tried anyway
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#3
ressource lol
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#4
hah, right, thanx for the hint :-)
beta-team is all german, so II bet you'll find plenty more... but thats a little OT

@ itorch: you can browse for tracks without bass by using the loopsearchs filter (e.g. drums and git only)
#5
Should be a play button on the ''hits'' page. That would make browsing it a little more smooth.
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#6
ic what you mean... you wont be able to kick people out of the track as easy, so I dont know wether that is really a good idea... I'll have to think about this one. But thanx a lot, I appreciate all thoughts.
#12
The concept is definitely cool. At first glance though, it looks pretty rough.

No Metals?

I think the buttons used to switch between songs shouldn't filter based on tempo. Maybe sort by most popular? Or just go in order?

You also need a home page button.

I also find it a bit strange that when you search a style, that style moves to the top of the list. I would have them stay in the same spot.

I don't see the point in having a section for a genre if you don't have any tracks in there too.

It would be cool if you could put songs by famous or signed artists and be able to take away tracks to be able to practice your covers. I know there would obviously be a copyright issue with this, just saying, it would be cool.

You, good sir, have not gone over to your friends house after a hard night of drinking to find 2 dudes passed out in the same room both holding their own flaccid cocks in hand, passed out, with porn on the tv.
#13
hey, thanks a lot. Yes, it is indeed quite ruff, and sorry if you were loking for metal :-) get some metall-drummer to record us some nice tracks and off we go :-) Remember, the project started only 25 days ago.
Homepage-button? the logo on top-left does the job!

Thanks again for the visit & feedback, I do appreciate it.
#14
Ah, didn't see that the logo was a button. And that's definitely not bad considering you started 25 days ago.

If you want some people to contribute, this is probably as good a place as any to get people to record some backing tracks. Not sure which forum you should go to, but if you asked, I'm sure people would be willing to help out.

You, good sir, have not gone over to your friends house after a hard night of drinking to find 2 dudes passed out in the same room both holding their own flaccid cocks in hand, passed out, with porn on the tv.
#15
I love this idea. Well done on making it a reality, hopefully it'll grow and grow.

Would be really nice if we could get some metal up there.
#17
OK, so let me sum this up: looking at yesterdays statistics, quite a few of you came to take a look.
Since there was no-one complaining about the site being in german, I conclude the language-distinction tool seems to work well - please state so if you had difficulties :-)
Someone mentioned "ugly appearance" - that might be a way of saying "I dont like blue", might indicate display problems depending on your PCs setup, browser etc. Would have been interesting to get deeper into this.
Some visitors left after only a short glance at the startpage - is it done this badly, or does it look too professional/commercial to you? I'd guess for the later, but then again someone stated on the ruff looks...
As far as the statistics show, most UG-users went straight for the rock section, which is rather empty compared to the reggae, blues or funk section. I didn't know, this was the main style around here, so this was quite a surprise to me.
I have noticed theres some of you active in similar projects, including the jam section in this forum.
Since there has been some interest and some offers made to contribute, this is what I'd like to warm up upon right here:
If you is sitting out there, with some backings of your own and looking for a more inspiring way of navigating from addition to addition than having to look for download-links in a standard forum, we'd be glad to offer you a new jamspace on wikiloops. I guess the most appealing aspect after the named navigation-system should be the variety of non-guitarrists on wikiloops.
As stated above, the project is really only starting, so anyone who'd like to join will have major impact on the future (including adding new style cats etc).

I'd like to express my thanx to anyone taking part, seems I've survived my first visit to the pit quite well, thank you :-)

Happy jammin from Germany
#19
I see much potential, much potential indeed. It'd be pretty awesome to see UG make a big contribution to it, good advertising for the site too, I dare say.
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#20
Visually it could be more appealing, but I suppose you'll get to that later. The idea seems pretty sweet, and I would probably be using this a fair bit I reckon.
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#21
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I see much potential, much potential indeed. It'd be pretty awesome to see UG make a big contribution to it, good advertising for the site too, I dare say.


Yes, I was thinking down theese lines. What we are doing is not really the same fishpond as UG, so I do hope no ones accusing me of going fishing around here. I'd be the first to negotiate about "powered by UG" banners, if thats what will make you start posting your guitar tracks.

It is a very nice feeling to have international musicians joining on this project, feels like the world has just gotten a bit smaller, while our jamming-room is expanding beyond thought... very nice
#22
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Yes, I was thinking down theese lines. What we are doing is not really the same fishpond as UG, so I do hope no ones accusing me of going fishing around here. I'd be the first to negotiate about "powered by UG" banners, if thats what will make you start posting your guitar tracks.

It is a very nice feeling to have international musicians joining on this project, feels like the world has just gotten a bit smaller, while our jamming-room is expanding beyond thought... very nice


Amen brother! If there's one thing technology is good for, it's bringing together guys and gals from around the world to make sweet sweet music

I want to read your essays and blogs of the artistic nature!


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#23
talking about sweet:
I really liked what happened when our first unknown member started posting. One of my favorites on wikiloops so far is this one:
http://wikiloops.com/viewpage.php?page_id=738&riff=0
just take it as a hint that other style cats than rock might be worth a listening :-)
and if you're looking for something challenging, just visit the jazzrock-section.
Has anyone around motivated any metall-drummer/programmer to post? I could send a request to Baer, but I'm affraid thats so far off his usual workout, I'm affraid the results wont be up to your expectations.
Just spread the word and keep coming!
#24
This is awesome!
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#28
chord progressions can be viewed by clicking on "show riffs" next to the navbar.
Autoplay and huge buttons were intended to make life easier when you are actually holding your instrument and browsing for a track, but I'm not all happy about the hwole GUI either. It takes some practise to understand the way you may navigate from session to session, and -sad but true- most users dont have that...
thanx for the feedback!
#29
Definitely a cool idea. I don't know if it's possible yet or not, I honestly haven't looked at a lot (I plan to though), but it would be cool if you could take loops from different jams to put together and play with. Like take a drum track that you like and mix with bass following a certain progression.

Also, I think Solo/Mute buttons would be better than the X that restarts it. And volume control for the tracks.
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#30
Quote by byob_soad2
Definitely a cool idea. I don't know if it's possible yet or not, I honestly haven't looked at a lot (I plan to though), but it would be cool if you could take loops from different jams to put together and play with. Like take a drum track that you like and mix with bass following a certain progression.

Also, I think Solo/Mute buttons would be better than the X that restarts it. And volume control for the tracks.


thank you very much for pointing to some more ideas:

If you could put together your track the way you thought about, using different tracks of different styles/jams, you would need to have all tracks as seperate files.
I do not believe it would be possible to get theese seperate files streamed without bandwith-problems and synchronisation errors between these audio tracks. For this reason, wikiloops plays one mp3 at a time (wich is the reason why there wont be SOLO buttons, there just aint no solotakes of all mixed instruments!).
I have been to some web-collab-forums where people post their tracks as forum-attachments and just went crying about how much time you loose downloading files before you can hear something. Theese projects end up as a mess, so the linear ping-pong-recording approach thats used on wikiloops seemed to be the best approach if you want an enjoyable flow. Of course, this way you wont get high-class productions, but thats not the primary aim. If the web ever gets fast enuf to do multiple-track playback without sync problems, I'll be the first to change the system!

The volume control made it to my to-do-list, I think I'm going to add a scrollbar for the track as well... still many things to improve on. I just hope some more musicians like to join, I can do the coding, but I really cant start any metall-session, you wouldn't want to hear that ;-) And it would be too bad to have only the blues section growing...
It will be a long way, many thanx to you for coming along for some steps!
#31
this has the potential to be super awesome, though i must admit i was disappointed at the lack of country and bluegrass tunes to jam on.
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#32
well, I'm absolutely sure many would thank you if you started such a jam....
theres some quite one-size-fits-all rattles in the unplugged section you could use as a base, or just record somethin playing solo :-)
DO IT :-) Its me saying please here, but there will be many saying thanks if you do.

...maybe I should consider to throw a wikiloops shirt in the pot for everyone who submits 3 first tracks to a style I have no grip on ;-) naw, even better for any user to whose music other people like to contribute something (otherwise I see myself bombed by senseless noise-uploads :-)
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Last edited by MrSnuts at Apr 28, 2011,
#34
... still missing some shred support ... get your drummers movin, seems to be real hard to find decent ones ;-)