#1
Been playing for quite some time now, and have more than enough prowess to be playing shows with our band and I am having trouble deciding on a new stack that would be ideal for straightup metalcore shredster tunes in a live situation. The 6505 head along with the cab is sadly too expensive for my budget so I was wondering of any feedback anyone might have of playing the 5150 head with the valveking 412 straight cab. I could go with the valveking head, however I like the features of the 5150 and the tone a lot. I have yet to play through a valveking head, though. Any suggestions???
#2
Go with a 6505 and buy a 212 cab with v30's - because you're low on budget. It's obviously that 412 > 212 but that's what you've got to deal with. 212 would do just fine for normal gigs + easier to carry around. But don't buy valveking 412 cab because you won't do justice to the amp.
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#3
Yeah I have a friend who plays a 5150 into an Orange with V30's, and I've heard it through my Marshall 1960B as well, and they both blow away the Valveking I played it through. It's just muddy and muffled, not a good cabinet. Straight cabinets I found have deeper bass as well when I compared them side by side. If you want the beefy tone the 6505 can get you you gotta pair it with a good cab man.
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#4
I run my 5150 through a Carvin Legacy cab with v30's. I got the cab for like 300 bucks brand new.
#5
Quote by samhell
I run my 5150 through a Carvin Legacy cab with v30's. I got the cab for like 300 bucks brand new.

Where did you manage to get that :OO?
6505/5150 = v30's all the way , 1960 marshalls come along with peavey nicely and lets face that they come very cheap if you buy used they're good for low budget... But if you save a little more.. you can get awesomeness
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#6
Quote by msoban
Go with a 6505 and buy a 212 cab with v30's - because you're low on budget. It's obviously that 412 > 212 but that's what you've got to deal with. 212 would do just fine for normal gigs + easier to carry around. But don't buy valveking 412 cab because you won't do justice to the amp.



4x12s are not "better" than 2x12s. It comes down to size/transportability and bass response you want from a cabinet. The 4x12 is generally bassier from having one large enclosure + 4x speakers, while the 2x12 is a smaller enclosure but less speakers so you get a 'tighter' or more resposive, fast bass response.
#7
Quote by CantShred
4x12s are not "better" than 2x12s. It comes down to size/transportability and bass response you want from a cabinet. The 4x12 is generally bassier from having one large enclosure + 4x speakers, while the 2x12 is a smaller enclosure but less speakers so you get a 'tighter' or more resposive, fast bass response.

you can talk more and more but I'll let you know that they are better.
You can't get that HUGE , full sound with 212... And let's not talk about the 'oomph' I simply love it ... so yeah that's why 412 > 212 but all thing has its downsize that's for sure.
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#8
You get that HUGE sound because the cabinet is around chest level - if you raised/mic the 2x12, it will get a similar sound. There is no 'better'.

It's just preference at that point. Better would be saying a Mesa 4x12 is better than a Peavey 5150 cabinet. This is a true statement because the Mesa has higher quality speakers and building materials, and gives a fuller sound. whereas the 5150 cabinet is made of cheap particle board and has low quality stock speakers that don't even achieve a well rounded sound.
#9
Quote by msoban
Where did you manage to get that :OO?
6505/5150 = v30's all the way , 1960 marshalls come along with peavey nicely and lets face that they come very cheap if you buy used they're good for low budget... But if you save a little more.. you can get awesomeness


I walked into the Carvin shop and said hey I want one of those cabs and pointed to it.
#10
Fair enough ;D
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