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So..my band practices at a church. When we're done practicing, we go upstairs to the storage room to store our gear and stuff. The storage room has a slanted floor.

Last practice, I had to leave early, and the drummer said he'd take care of cleaning up for me. He took my Washburn MG-70 and its stand, and set it upstairs.

I just got a call from our keyboard players dad (the pastor at the church) that he had went upstairs to do something, and was instantly filled with horror when he saw it...

My drummer set the stand leaning towards the angle of the floor, and my washburn had been lying there on the floor, with a crack in its neck on two sides.

I don't know how extensive the damage is, because I haven't seen it yet, but I'm inclined just to buy a new neck if the damage is too severe...

If its minor, how would I fix it?


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#2
Glue, glue, and more glue
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Glue, glue, and more glue


Well I know that, but since the cracks arent all the way through, how would I go about finishing the break so I CAN glue it?


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#6
Depends how severe the break is...

If it's a nice clean break, then it might fit together easily
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#7
I agree with glue and prayer on this one. I had to do a glue job on my electric acoustic for a similar situation and it's held together okay. If it's really bad, I do suggest a new neck just for the sake of intonation.
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#8
One lessoned learned here. NEVER LEAVE YOUR GUITAR ALONE OTHER THAN HOME! I have never once left my guitar just a small 15watt amp once. Just because Church is safe, doesn't mean accidents can happen. lol
#9
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Depends how severe the break is...

If it's a nice clean break, then it might fit together easily


The neck didn't break as far as I know, just some deep cracks...

I need to know how I'm supposed to finish the break.


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#10
if it doesn't affect the playability of the guitar I'd say leave it.. unless it looks like it'll get worse in which case try syringe plenty of glue in and clamp it up nice and tight. wipe off the excess well and you won't even need to do anything else
#11
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if it doesn't affect the playability of the guitar I'd say leave it.. unless it looks like it'll get worse in which case try syringe plenty of glue in and clamp it up nice and tight. wipe off the excess well and you won't even need to do anything else


That's how I did it with my acoustic and it's going strong over a year now.
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#12
If the fretboard is still intact, for god sakes don't break that. Pics?
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#13
Pics of the devastation... I don't think it's fixable, tbh. It looks really bad, and from I can see, the crack goes through to the trussrod cavity..

I could never post enough pictures to show the pain this is causing me...but I can try.

String Tension still on..






Strings removed, Tension is gone





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#15
Looks like it got freakin slashed by a knife or sword. If glue doesn't help. You just may wanna get a new neck if it is removable and so that if you have any special set up on your body you can still keep it. If nothing works, it might be time to sue :/ or buy a new one.
#16
This looks like a good place to put up an ad for my new business........


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But seriously, I think you're right on this one, it looks too bad for a fix job. Check on replacement cost and see if you can afford it. In the end, you'd sure be happier with a new neck. Good luck, and church goers aside, my prayers are with you.....
#17
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WOW that is a incredible dik move. just follow these (non sarcastic) steps

1. fire your drummer or at least hire a roadie

2.Its just the neck that's cracked right? you can replace it

3. maybe buy yourself a new guitar, I really like washburn they've been with me since day one but as your band gets more popular you'll need higher quality instruments, I would recommend a schecter hellraiser
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#18
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Pics of the devastation... I don't think it's fixable, tbh. It looks really bad, and from I can see, the crack goes through to the trussrod cavity..

I could never post enough pictures to show the pain this is causing me...but I can try.

String Tension still on..






Strings removed, Tension is gone






yyyyeeeaaaahhh I would just get a new ax
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#19
I think that you can probably glue it back together pretty well, think of it as a really wobbly intricate scarf joint :P

I'd remove the fretboard first, finish the break then glue all three (four?) pieces back together with some nice glue, titebonds good.

Thats the way I'd go about it anyway, I'm sure there other ways to repair that without making a new neck (or buying a new guitar...)
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#20
easily fixable. the way that I'd fix it is probably a bit unorthadox and people would probably disagree, but here goes:
1) put strings on WITH tension, so that the crack opens up a little bit
2) squeeze some glue ( TIGHTBOND ) into the gaps, then loosen strings
3) get some clamps (lots of) and clamp the cracks closed so the glue squeezes out (wipe off excess) NOTE - make sure you use some sacrificial wood between the clamp and the fretboard to avoid clamp marks, a radius block that matches your fretboard would work great
4) when dry, string back up to tension to check that the jobs worked

all there is to it. good luck
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#21
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easily fixable. the way that I'd fix it is probably a bit unorthadox and people would probably disagree, but here goes:
1) put strings on WITH tension, so that the crack opens up a little bit
2) squeeze some glue ( TIGHTBOND ) into the gaps, then loosen strings
3) get some clamps (lots of) and clamp the cracks closed so the glue squeezes out (wipe off excess) NOTE - make sure you use some sacrificial wood between the clamp and the fretboard to avoid clamp marks, a radius block that matches your fretboard would work great
4) when dry, string back up to tension to check that the jobs worked

all there is to it. good luck


i was just going to post this almost word for word!!!

but yes easy fix. accidents happen, make him buy the beer for the next month of practices
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#22
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easily fixable. the way that I'd fix it is probably a bit unorthadox and people would probably disagree, but here goes:
1) put strings on WITH tension, so that the crack opens up a little bit
2) squeeze some glue ( TIGHTBOND ) into the gaps, then loosen strings
3) get some clamps (lots of) and clamp the cracks closed so the glue squeezes out (wipe off excess) NOTE - make sure you use some sacrificial wood between the clamp and the fretboard to avoid clamp marks, a radius block that matches your fretboard would work great
4) when dry, string back up to tension to check that the jobs worked

all there is to it. good luck


How long should I leave the clamps on the neck? I clamped and glued the first crack at about 8:55 AM Western..Would it be safe to take them off now? It's 1:37 PM Western

Well I took it into school today, and me and my shop teacher opened up the smaller of the two cracks with our bare hands, and squeezed as much glue in there as we could, and clamped it up.

I really hope it holds, tomorrow we'll do the other crack. I'd put string tension on it, but I'm scared that by reputting the tension on it, it might make it worse.

I really wish I would have seen this post earlier...

I really hope this works, cause I don't have the 268$ it'll cost me for a warmoth neck.


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#23
I'd say leave it for one day, at least.
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#24
Make your drummer pay for it. If he was careless... make it pay for all of it (which it sounds like... he put it on the slanted part). Or if you guys are mutual about it, at least split the cost or have him pay for a larger part of it.
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#26
Try fixing it with glue and some clamps. If all is lost you have an excuse to buy a nice new shiny guitar. (Assuming you have the funds)
#27
Looks like a break at ye scarf joint anyway? Secondary split above that. What Robbo sez; but IDK about using the strings as an expansion device

First!! make sure you have sufficient and proper clamps, radius'd blocking and good glue on hand an at the ready. Having a decent place/way to work on it is preferable to the closet floor or the tail gate of yer truck.

Bend the neck centering on the break to open the crack just enuff to get a good coating of glue inside, *completely* covering the surface. Let it relax then wipe off excess w/a damp rag. I usually use a bit of poly film to protect finish/clamps from sticking. Set the fitted blocks and slowly apply pressure from the center of the break outwards. Wipe off more glue!

Be sure to let it sit for quite some time. Think it's ready? Wait another day or two. While most woodworker's glues will be "workable" within a few hrs; it's NOT going to be cured enuff to re-string for a week, IMHO...so patience is required.
Once un-clamped, there should be little glue evident and the repair should be nearly invisible.
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#28
If it doesn't hold (its should), you've already got a fretboard, a truss rod, tuning pegs and nut. Don't bother going to warmoth, its not that hard to make a new neck, and seeing as you have nothing to lose at that point why not try making your own?

But yeah, good luck with the gluing up, hope it works for you
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#29
The first crack I glued up dried nicely, but with excess glue on the neck, so I'm gonna have to sand a little to get it smooth.

Glued up the larger crack at the scarf today, used heaps of glue, and as many clamps as I could fit (3 C clamps, 1 woodscrew clamp) so far it's drying quite nicely.

I'm really hoping it works, if not, the pastor of the church said he feels responsible so if I can't fix it he'd reimburse me


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#30
Titebond original wood glue, as robbo said.

just try not to glue the clamps to the neck haha.
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#31
Titebond original is the only way to go man B)

And yeah, I put a peice of fabric that doesnt stick to the glue in between the clamps and the neck


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#33
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I'm really hoping it works, if not, the pastor of the church said he feels responsible so if I can't fix it he'd reimburse me


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#34
Well, for some reason when I glued and clamped the second crack, it was flush and smooth with the other side...

now the bigger half of the neck is slighlty raised above the smaller half.... I don't think this is gonna work anymore :/


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#35
WELL..

Needless to say i'm pretty ****ing pissed right now.
When I glued and clamped the neck today, it was fine. I just unclamped it,and I discoverd thatbreak traveled all the way through the mother****ing neck, including the ****ing fretboard.

Pardon my profanity, but my fretboard is ruined, my neck is ruined, and now I have ANOTHER unplayable guitar.


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#37
Yeah...i know :/

I've just realized how depressing it is taking all of the hardware off of a broken neck... I feel like i just got punched in the nuts by god himself.


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#38
You might be able to make or get a new neck for it. Is it set neck?
#39
Nah, bolt on.

The pastor is bidding on something on ebay right now, its a washburn that has the same neck as mine.


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#40
If its bolt on buy a new neck. It'll be good.
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