#1
I have been screaming for over a year now, and a lot of times I can do it very well, but it is very inconsistent. Most of the time I can manage a very average scream, but some days it comes out very weak, some days it comes out incredibly strong, and some days its like I've forgotten how to do it completely. Also, I can scream better later in the day, and usually can't do it before noonish, so I have a few questions about this.

1. Is this normal, and has anyone here experienced this?

2. Is there a way to fix it, or will it go away naturally (I have noticed I have less "bad days" now compared to earlier on)

3. Could it possibly be bad technique, and could I be damaging my voice? I've never felt any pain when I'm screaming so I don't think it is, but I guess it's possible...
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#2
Just make sure you're using your diaphragm to put the power behind your screams, don't put all the tension in your throat and you won't get hurt assuming you're doing some sort of false chord/fry/death scream. I think it's just a matter of practice. Some days you probably execute everything correctly and have good breathing and other days you may not use your technique as effectively. Just keep working and pay attention to the little things, you'll get consistent as continue to develop.
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#3
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1. Is this normal, and has anyone here experienced this?

2. Is there a way to fix it, or will it go away naturally (I have noticed I have less "bad days" now compared to earlier on)

3. Could it possibly be bad technique, and could I be damaging my voice? I've never felt any pain when I'm screaming so I don't think it is, but I guess it's possible...


1. Earliy on in my days of starting False Chord, it happened to me occasionally. I'm assuming your doing fry screaming, dunno why, but yeah. It's normal for fry screaming to go away after awhile until you get really good at it.

I've only recently started using fry (about 4 months) and I have the same problem. My fry screams always sound best at 11pm when I'm laying down in bed. You know, the time when I cant record them.

2. It depends on if your using proper technique or not. Generally, with proper screaming techniqe and practice, these inconsistencies go away over time.

3. It's possible, it happened to me the first 3 months I started screaming. I never felt any pain, and I *thought* I was using false chord correctly, but I wasn't. I lost my voice and decided I was doing something wrong, and completely relearned how to scream.

To be honest, in order to tell if your using bad technique we'd need a sound file


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1. Earliy on in my days of starting False Chord, it happened to me occasionally. I'm assuming your doing fry screaming, dunno why, but yeah. It's normal for fry screaming to go away after awhile until you get really good at it.

I've only recently started using fry (about 4 months) and I have the same problem. My fry screams always sound best at 11pm when I'm laying down in bed. You know, the time when I cant record them.

2. It depends on if your using proper technique or not. Generally, with proper screaming techniqe and practice, these inconsistencies go away over time.

3. It's possible, it happened to me the first 3 months I started screaming. I never felt any pain, and I *thought* I was using false chord correctly, but I wasn't. I lost my voice and decided I was doing something wrong, and completely relearned how to scream.

To be honest, in order to tell if your using bad technique we'd need a sound file


Ya I'm pretty sure I am doing fry screaming. When I learned how to do it I just practiced in my car and didn't study up on proper technique at all, so there is a good chance I'm doing it wrong, sadly I do not have any recording equipment of any kind to make a sound file, is there a way I could check myself? Also, if I am doing the technique wrong, how would you suggest I go about trying to learn the right techniques? any good videos or anything or do I have to just find it out myself? and thank you everyone for your responses so far!
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#5
Well, really the only way you can check is to study up and watch tutorial videos. IF it hurts, you're most likely doing it wrong. Although, it can start to hurt if you scream for excessive amounts of time. Biggest advice I can give you- If you're screaming for awhile, and your throat starts to hurt, STOP. Continuing to scream will only damage your throat and vocal chords.

Here's two tutorials to the two basic methods of screaming, you can check your technique and find out what kind of scream you do here.

It's hard to find a good tutorial on fry screaming, but this is one of the best one's I've come across.

Fry Screaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA4Q2EliPLQ&playnext=1&list=PLBBC6E553BC0EC896

One of the best tuts I've found on False Chord Screaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FCES6wxmzk

You can also compare your screams to different bands as well to find out what type you use. I'll give a breif list of some mainstream bands that use Both styles, and over time you'll learn to discern what type they use yourself.


Bands that use Fry Screaming:
All That Remains, As I Lay Dying, Lamb of God, Trivium, BFMV, DAATH

Bands that use False Chord:
Amon Amarth, Suicide Silence, Job for a Cowboy, White Chapel, (SOME) Lamb of God songs IE:Shoulder of Your God, BMTH


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#6
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Well, really the only way you can check is to study up and watch tutorial videos. IF it hurts, you're most likely doing it wrong. Although, it can start to hurt if you scream for excessive amounts of time. Biggest advice I can give you- If you're screaming for awhile, and your throat starts to hurt, STOP. Continuing to scream will only damage your throat and vocal chords.

Here's two tutorials to the two basic methods of screaming, you can check your technique and find out what kind of scream you do here.

It's hard to find a good tutorial on fry screaming, but this is one of the best one's I've come across.

Fry Screaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA4Q2EliPLQ&playnext=1&list=PLBBC6E553BC0EC896

One of the best tuts I've found on False Chord Screaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FCES6wxmzk

You can also compare your screams to different bands as well to find out what type you use. I'll give a breif list of some mainstream bands that use Both styles, and over time you'll learn to discern what type they use yourself.


Bands that use Fry Screaming:
All That Remains, As I Lay Dying, Lamb of God, Trivium, BFMV, DAATH

Bands that use False Chord:
Amon Amarth, Suicide Silence, Job for a Cowboy, White Chapel, (SOME) Lamb of God songs IE:Shoulder of Your God, BMTH


For God's sake, Matt Heafy from Trivium doesn't use fry Screaming !

But, yeah, the second video is very effective.
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#8
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We need to establish right off the bat what kind of screaming you're talking about. "Screaming" is a really vague term.

Alright, I'm pretty sure I'm using Fry

EDIT: I looked at the false chord video and I'm definitely not using that, The Fry video just sounded bad to me, but that seems closer to what I'm doing...
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#9
If it's not falsechord it's fry.

After screaming are you hoarse?

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And the inconsistency is normal. What will EXPONENTIALLY increase the consistency of your screams is doing some basic singing warmups before you start. Just like 15 mins.

Youtube 'Melissa Cross Vocal Warmups'
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#10
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If it's not falsechord it's fry.

After screaming are you hoarse?

---------------------

And the inconsistency is normal. What will EXPONENTIALLY increase the consistency of your screams is doing some basic singing warmups before you start. Just like 15 mins.

Youtube 'Melissa Cross Vocal Warmups'


No Im not usually hoarse, and thanks I'll look into that!
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#11
If you're not hoarse you're fine.

Vocal damage doesn't magically occur, it occurs slloowwlllyy over a long period of repeated harm. The magical symptom of harm is hoarsness. Your vocal chords swell when you damage or abuse them, causing you to become hoarse.

It takes a fair bit to cause any damage over a long time, but a bad technique indicator can be hoarseness. For falsechord screaming though, expect to be slightly hoarse and to temporarily loose your upper range and falsetto through the night (It starts to recover within a few minutes of you stopping screaming)
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#12
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Well, really the only way you can check is to study up and watch tutorial videos. IF it hurts, you're most likely doing it wrong. Although, it can start to hurt if you scream for excessive amounts of time. Biggest advice I can give you- If you're screaming for awhile, and your throat starts to hurt, STOP. Continuing to scream will only damage your throat and vocal chords.

Here's two tutorials to the two basic methods of screaming, you can check your technique and find out what kind of scream you do here.

It's hard to find a good tutorial on fry screaming, but this is one of the best one's I've come across.

Fry Screaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA4Q2EliPLQ&playnext=1&list=PLBBC6E553BC0EC896

One of the best tuts I've found on False Chord Screaming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FCES6wxmzk

You can also compare your screams to different bands as well to find out what type you use. I'll give a breif list of some mainstream bands that use Both styles, and over time you'll learn to discern what type they use yourself.


Bands that use Fry Screaming:
All That Remains, As I Lay Dying, Lamb of God, Trivium, BFMV, DAATH

Bands that use False Chord:
Amon Amarth, Suicide Silence, Job for a Cowboy, White Chapel, (SOME) Lamb of God songs IE:Shoulder of Your God, BMTH

Isn't As I Lay Dying false chord?
#14
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What I really mean is, along the lines of what vocalists are you trying to sound like?

I really like Jeremy McKinnon's scream in A Day to Remember, I'm guessing that's a False Chord scream though, could be wrong...
"When that day comes I shall Futterwacken ... vigorously."
~ The Mad Hatter