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#1
I have a friend who has been pissing off my girlfriend recently saying all these sexist things like 'women aren't as smart as men' and 'women shouldn't be allowed to do D.I.Y.' so I told him politely to go f*ck himself for insulting my girlfriend to her face like that.

And then I got wondering, in this day and age how can people be sexist? I mean women have had to fight for many years to be able to vote and get paid the same amount as men for jobs but still we have people out there who believe men are geneticly better.

How does this happen? Do you think it has something to do with the way you are raised? Are you sexist? Do you joke around being sexist?

And in what ways have you been effected by sexism? (both men against women and women against men)


Pit share your wisdom


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inb4: TS is a women and should make me a sandwich
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#2
Combination of social conditioning and the instinctual protectiveness of men.
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#3
Because people are morons and stupidity is an unfortunate endemic quality to our race.

Also, the vast majority of sexist jokes aren't funny, not necessarily because they're sexist, but because they're bloody unoriginal.
#4
the standard deviation is men and women have a lot of differences. women are inferior to men in a lot of things. jokes and stereotypes are basically facts blown way out of proportion. the majority of sexism jokes aren't funny anymore anyway.

(by a lot of things, i basically mean physical strength. DIY is a combination of a lot of things, not just physical strength, any woman can be good at it, but the general consensus is that men find it more interesting)


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#5
Your girlfriend should get back to the kitchen before I contribute to the Smackaho Tribe.
#7
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If a tree falls on a woman and there's no-one there to hear it, who the hell planted a tree in the kitchen?


thanks for being an example of how sexist kitchen jokes just aren't funny anymore. not because i'm against sexism jokes per say, they just dried out.
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#10
"What do you call a guy who constantly makes jokes about women being in the kitchen making sandwiches?

Single."
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#11
friends... men think they are alpah and cool if they are sexist, I can't inderstand we still discriminate this day. on race, clothes or gender.

Woman have harder lives: every month stomach hurt and bleeding from their vag, they make babies and I don't see any guy do that, when a woman births her child you can see the real power a woman has physsically.

And most girls I know are smarter than me, but thats because i'm just a dumb **** :$
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There is a clear and obvious double standard. We are supposed to treat women as equal but still open the doors for them, carry heavy items, fix the junk they break, offer our coat in inclement weather, pay for all the dates, earn the lions share of the income so they can stay at home and raise the baby etc. Can't have it both ways, if they are equal, then i should be able to punch a b in the face just as I would a man, if they are in fact weaker, the "fairer" sex so to speak, then they should accept the perceived sexism that comes along with that.


Shoot, i'm sorry, what i meant to say was: Why are you and your friend hanging out in the kitchen, get to the living room and he won't be able to insult your girl to her face.
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#13
first ts women just got the right to vote in the usa like 80 years ago, so how surprising is it that people dont take their rights seriously?
second your girlfriend is being dramatic.
third your friend only says that shit because he isnt getting pussy and you are.
and
fourth you are super super pussy whipped.
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#14
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I have a friend who has been pissing off my girlfriend recently saying all these sexist things like 'women aren't as smart as men' and 'women shouldn't be allowed to do D.I.Y.' so I told him politely to go f*ck himself for insulting my girlfriend to her face like that.

And then I got wondering, in this day and age how can people be sexist? I mean women have had to fight for many years to be able to vote and get paid the same amount as men for jobs but still we have people out there who believe men are geneticly better.

How does this happen? Do you think it has something to do with the way you are raised? Are you sexist? Do you joke around being sexist?

And in what ways have you been effected by sexism? (both men against women and women against men)


Pit share your wisdom


inb4: TS is a women and should make me a sandwich


Question, why did you feel the need to tell him to go **** himself, why couldn't you let your girl handle the situation. Also, would you have felt just as comfortable if the situation were reversed and your girlfriend told off someone who was saying ridiculous shit to you.
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What I don't like about women is when they say stuff like " you can't do/say that because i'm a woman".
And that they should be treated equally.
But if they would do/say stuff to a man, " we can do that.."
If a girl punches me in the face, you bet your ass she will get a punch back.
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#16
I'm glad some intelligent posts snuck in before the douchebags started posting.
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#17
ITT: TS has a girlfriend.
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Question, why did you feel the need to tell him to go **** himself, why couldn't you let your girl handle the situation.



Hahaha, exactly, it's like saying "We are equal and I have to stand up for her to show that"
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There is a clear and obvious double standard. We are supposed to treat women as equal but still open the doors for them, carry heavy items, fix the junk they break, offer our coat in inclement weather, pay for all the dates, earn the lions share of the income so they can stay at home and raise the baby etc. Can't have it both ways, if they are equal, then i should be able to punch a b in the face just as I would a man, if they are in fact weaker, the "fairer" sex so to speak, then they should accept the perceived sexism that comes along with that.


Shoot, i'm sorry, what i meant to say was: Why are you and your friend hanging out in the kitchen, get to the living room and he won't be able to insult your girl to her face.

Feminists put themselves in a tricky situation since at once they want to celebrate what makes women unique as women (something which they have every right to do) while at the same time holding that women are no inherently different from men at all, at least when it comes to social situations.

But its a delicate line they have to walk between celebrating femininity on the one hand and denying what is stereotypically seen as feminine on the other.
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And most girls I know are smarter than me, but thats because i'm just a dumb **** :$

Ain't that the truth.


OT: Women and men are different, to treat them exactly the same would be a mistake. There are inherent biological differences between us, as well as cultural gender roles which influence our behavior and interests.

That said there is blatant discrimination against women in our society today, which someone should probably do something about at some point. Sexist jokes I don't have a problem with but most of them are old, rehashed, and not funny e.g. "get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich".
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Because people are morons and stupidity is an unfortunate endemic quality to our race.

Also, the vast majority of sexist jokes aren't funny, not necessarily because they're sexist, but because they're bloody unoriginal.

But their humor lies not in their originality, but in their social unacceptibility. Its like dead baby jokes: the shock value is half of the humor
#23
I honestly think people should just accept that men and women are equal, but are not equal in all skills and abilities.
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I honestly think people should just accept that men and women are equal, but are not equal in all skills and abilities.

................... so they aren't equal
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Hahaha, exactly, it's like saying "We are equal and I have to stand up for her to show that"

not only that but its like "shut up you weak woman i will defend you."
and how is that equal rights?
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or, alternate theory here, your girlfriend is a bitch and your friend doesnt like her.
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But their humor lies not in their originality, but in their social unacceptibility. Its like dead baby jokes: the shock value is half of the humor


Finally someone that gets it. The entertainment value of sexist jokes is the reaction they get from someone that thinks you're serious.
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................... so they aren't equal


They are equal in value.
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or, alternate theory here, your girlfriend is a bitch and your friend doesnt like her.

I like this theory.
#30
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They are equal in value.

I see, here's my question, are all attributes of both sexes equal? If so, then why do feminists often devalue traditionally "feminine" qualities, such as beauty, for example. Certainly that could be seen as a positive quality, and that the feminine figure should be celebrated in its natural state, but yet at the same time they seem to denounce this same quality.
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Quote by nmitchell076
But their humor lies not in their originality, but in their social unacceptibility. Its like dead baby jokes: the shock value is half of the humor


Yeah, and once you've heard a couple of dead baby jokes, you've heard most of them.

The generic punchline for a sexist joke is

*something about women*

*emphasise the lack of respect towards women*

*something to do with kitchens*

And that's it. And it's ALWAYS the ****ing kitchen. But it's stupid, they're not funny even when people are telling them "ironically" - (Newsflash, you hipster turdburglars - there is a difference between "ironic" and "opposite" - look it up).

Take racist jokes. There are lots of racist jokes that are funny, but if you use ONE racist joke about, say, black people, and the ONLY punchline was something to do with fried chicken, wouldn't it get old after a while, regardless of it's political (in)correctness?
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Your girlfriend should get back to the kitchen before I contribute to the Smackaho Tribe.


Seriously, my suggestion would be for her to not care. In life the only people whose opinion of you should ever matter is your family(Rather it be immediate or spouse, children) and your boss. Other than that, if someone doesn't like me for whatever reason, I just smile and consider it their loss.

As far as the sexist idea goes, men are just as discriminated towards for their gender as women are. But the sexist idea can be traced back to one simple thing: RELIGION!

Since religion was established some four thousand years ago or so, there has been one constant action involved. "Take Things From The Intended Context". Yes, as a result of being head of household, man are fundamentally entitled to certain aspects that the spouse is not. But you see, being the head of household is actually fundamentally backwards in the exteriors outlook. A real head of household thinks very little of themselves and puts the point of view of everyone else ahead of their own. The reason I say it is backwards is because people would think the head think of themselves, but with freedom and success comes responsibility. If you cannot handle the chore of taking others under your wing and being the provider you should happily and willingly give it to those that can.

However, religion has, and always will, had a grip on the point of view of every culture. There is, literally, NO place on this planet that isn't gripped in one way or another by their own, or separate, religion. What does almost every religion teach on this subject? Women were made second and therefore are beneath men, some even suggest that women are entirely expendable. But does the source of their teachings say the same thing?

1 Timothy-2.11-12:

11: Let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness. 12: I do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence.

In other words, no it does not state what those religious people are claiming it does. The context used in that and a few other scriptures is in discussion of God and Congregational events. It never says a woman is not permitted to work, have an opinion, get a job, vote, fight in battle. In fact their source material says women are entitled to all things men are and vise-verso.

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The generic punchline for a sexist joke is

*something about women*

*emphasise the lack of respect towards women*

*something to do with kitchens*
I am going to imagine that you left out the other side for an undisclosed reason, but what about the sexist jokes such as:

*something about men*
*emphasize the lack of respect towards men*
*something to do with the 'thinking with their genitals'*
*something to do with the 'ALWAYS AT A BAR'*
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I see, here's my question, are all attributes of both sexes equal? If so, then why do feminists often devalue traditionally "feminine" qualities, such as beauty, for example. Certainly that could be seen as a positive quality, and that the feminine figure should be celebrated in its natural state, but yet at the same time they seem to denounce this same quality.


That was my entire point. Men and women are not equal in all attributes, but the two are balanced. Cliché examples; men are stronger, women are better with children. Now of course there are exceptions, but generally men are stronger and women are better with children.
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or, alternate theory here, your girlfriend is a bitch and your friend doesnt like her.

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Finally someone that gets it. The entertainment value of sexist jokes is the reaction they get from someone that thinks you're serious.


NO. You want to appear sneering and snidely undermining of the whole sexist subculture, but most people don't get that you're not actually serious about it. And then you become a part of the problem you're laughing at - either people take you seriously and agree with you, or they take you seriously and they disagree with you. Either way, you look like a fucking tool. Or, in the off-chance that they actually get that you're trying to be witty, they either laugh with you which means their sense of humour is as shitty as yours, or they (rightfully) are disgusted by the fact that there are cancers that are more funny and original than you.
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Quote by LordBishek
Take racist jokes. There are lots of racist jokes that are funny, but if you use ONE racist joke about, say, black people, and the ONLY punchline was something to do with fried chicken, wouldn't it get old after a while, regardless of it's political (in)correctness?

Oh kinda like Asian people being good at math?

Et tu, engineerus?

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NO. You want to appear sneering and snidely undermining of the whole sexist subculture, but most people don't get that you're not actually serious about it. And then you become a part of the problem you're laughing at - either people take you seriously and agree with you, or they take you seriously and they disagree with you. Either way, you look like a fucking tool. Or, in the off-chance that they actually get that you're trying to be witty, they either laugh with you which means their sense of humour is as shitty as yours, or they (rightfully) are disgusted by the fact that there are cancers that are more funny and original than you.

The bolded = a part of the humor
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Oh kinda like Asian people being good at math?

Et tu, engineerus?



Yeah, that was only funny the first time I heard it too

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The bolded = a part of the humor


Did you somehow miss the rest of the post? I covered that too.
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There is a clear and obvious double standard. We are supposed to treat women as equal but still open the doors for them, carry heavy items, fix the junk they break, offer our coat in inclement weather, pay for all the dates, earn the lions share of the income so they can stay at home and raise the baby etc. Can't have it both ways, if they are equal, then i should be able to punch a b in the face just as I would a man, if they are in fact weaker, the "fairer" sex so to speak, then they should accept the perceived sexism that comes along with that.


yeah, but women have to put up with your smelly retarded ass, and carry a child to term, not to mention be nicer, raise kids, cook, clean, and now they have to work, too.
#40
Quote by LordBishek
NO. You want to appear sneering and snidely undermining of the whole sexist subculture, but most people don't get that you're not actually serious about it. And then you become a part of the problem you're laughing at - either people take you seriously and agree with you, or they take you seriously and they disagree with you. Either way, you look like a fucking tool. Or, in the off-chance that they actually get that you're trying to be witty, they either laugh with you which means their sense of humour is as shitty as yours, or they (rightfully) are disgusted by the fact that there are cancers that are more funny and original than you.


Or, people should get out more a develop a basic understanding of others so they can tell when somebody is joking.

^ Nobody has to do any of that.
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