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A federal court has given the Obama administration the go-ahead to continue embryonic stem cell research.

The controversial 2-1 decision Friday is a victory for supporters of federally funded testing for a range of diseases and illnesses.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia lifted an injunction imposed last year by a federal judge, who said all embryonic stem cell research at the National Institutes of Health amounted to destruction of embryos, in violation of congressional spending laws.

The case is Sherley v. Sebelius (10-5287).



http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/29/court-lifts-ban-on-government-funding-stem-cell-research/
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This is ridiculous. It's so wrong to take the life of an unborn child just to do sick medical experiments.
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Let the stem cell chaos begin.
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This is ridiculous. It's so wrong to take the life of an unborn child just to do sick medical experiments.

Stem cells can also be harvested from the umbilical cord bud...
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This is ridiculous. It's so wrong to take the life of an unborn child just to do sick medical experiments.


That's not where stem cells used in research come from...

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Stem cells can also be harvested from the umbilical cord bud...

and the placenta
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This is ridiculous. It's so wrong to take the life of an unborn child just to do sick medical experiments.


Except, you know, stem cells can come from the placenta as well. I'm pretty sure you don't need to do anything with the baby to obtain the stem cells from the placenta.

Edit: Super-ninja'd.

Anyways, good news, it's about time yo.
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This is ridiculous. It's so wrong to take the life of an unborn child just to do sick medical experiments.

I suspect that you're trolling, but regardless it should be pointed out that the embryos that would be used for research would die anyway as they are generally the extra ones produced from IVF treatment.
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finally. THANK YOU OBAMA!! Now if they can do something about this stupid economy.....
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ITT I predict several people who have never heard of Adult Stem Cells and the already FDA-approved treatments that use them.
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This is ridiculous. It's so wrong to take the life of an unborn child just to do sick medical experiments.


Induced pluripotent stem cells.
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I'm too lazy to google it, but can't stem cells potentially rebuild damaged nervous systems? I'm not saying we're "there yet," but is that a possibility, or am I missing the concept?
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NEWS-****ING-FLASH, the Government HAS funded research of Stem Cells for a while, just not Embryonic Stem Cells, which pretty much consists of using a baby as a petri dish to test on, which actually has been deemed a lot less useful than PLURIPOTENT Stem Cells, which has more benefits than Embryonic, without the controversy.

The whole debate is so ****ing retarded, both sides arguing when they have no ****ing idea what they are talking about. Listen to the Goddamned scientists...
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NEWS-****ING-FLASH, the Government HAS funded research of Stem Cells for a while, just not Embryonic Stem Cells, which pretty much consists of using a baby as a petri dish to test on, which actually has been deemed a lot less useful than PLURIPOTENT Stem Cells, which has more benefits than Embryonic, without the controversy.

The whole debate is so ****ing retarded, both sides arguing when they have no ****ing idea what they are talking about. Listen to the Goddamned scientists...

Exactly. Embryonic stem cells are more likely to be rejected by the patient than the ASC's that come straight from the patient's own body, a large obstacle that researchers would either need to overcome or simply sidestep by focusing research on ASC's/Pluripotent/whatever you prefer to call them.
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Yes. they are Hoping to use stem cells to cure cancer. the main thing they are thinking is that anything is possible with a stem cell
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Exactly. Embryonic stem cells are more likely to be rejected by the patient than the ASC's that come straight from the patient's own body, a large obstacle that researchers would either need to overcome or simply sidestep by focusing research on ASC's/Pluripotent/whatever you prefer to call them.


There simply is no reason to use Embryonic over Pluripotent, Pluripotent can also turn into more cells than Embryonic.
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There simply is no reason to use Embryonic over Pluripotent, Pluripotent can also turn into more cells than Embryonic.


Let's not jump to conclusions, a large portion of the assumptions on ESCs have yet to be, well..Researched.

Furthermore, ESCs are pluripotent. Use iPS.
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The whole debate is so ****ing retarded, both sides arguing when they have no ****ing idea what they are talking about. Listen to the Goddamned scientists...

Will do:

"We should be able to study both adult and embryonic stem cells and ultimately let the science decide which of the cells will be best for treatment.

Scientists want more embryonic stem cell lines (there are currently 78 embryonic stem cell lines) from IVF embryos around the world. Existing ones cannot be used in people because they are grown on mouse tissue and might transmit animal viruses, and not many are good quality. In Australia 70,000 surplus IVF embryos are available."
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There simply is no reason to use Embryonic over Pluripotent, Pluripotent can also turn into more cells than Embryonic.


I remember writing a paper on stem-cell research 4 years ago when i was a freshman, can't they take the embroyonic cell and manipulate it so as it matures it becomes whatever type of cell they desire? And the adult stem cell has already matured? Or something like that. I don't exactly remember. I've just heard adult stem cells are more likely to become the desired cells and are more reliable
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There simply is no reason to use Embryonic over Pluripotent, Pluripotent can also turn into more cells than Embryonic.



Wrong. Embryonic stem cells are totipotent, meaning they can differentiate into ANY cell. Pluripotent cells are promising, yes, but they don't offer quite the options that totipotent cells do.

Also, humans are deuterostomes, meaning that they have indeterminate cleavage. Meaning you could take a stem cell from a human embryo at a very early stage, and it would still develop perfectly fine. This is what is often done with IVF to collect stem cells.

I swear if people had a rudimentary knowledge about biology, the world would be such a simpler place...
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I remember writing a paper on stem-cell research 4 years ago when i was a freshman, can't they take the embroyonic cell and manipulate it so as it matures it becomes whatever type of cell they desire? And the adult stem cell has already matured? Or something like that. I don't exactly remember. I've just heard adult stem cells are more likely to become the desired cells and are more reliable


Scientific American had an article on it a while, and the idea that pluripotent cells are much more preferable as they can become any cell they want, embryonic have already differentiated slightly, making a range of cells impossible to research.
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Scientific American had an article on it a while, and the idea that pluripotent cells are much more preferable as they can become any cell they want, embryonic have already differentiated slightly, making a range of cells impossible to research.



No, wrong again. Read above. Pluripotent cells CANNOT become any cell.
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I'm too lazy to google it, but can't stem cells potentially rebuild damaged nervous systems? I'm not saying we're "there yet," but is that a possibility, or am I missing the concept?


From my understanding of the potential of stem cells, they can do everything pretty much, like Wolverine type stuff from my understanding, but yes that is a big part of it, hence the Christopher Reeves episode of South Park. Correct me if I'm wrong somebody, but don't stem cells work in a way where they can mimic other cells, and essential grow dead or nonexistant tissue that would match the host's blood type and other requirements? I heard one big deal they want to do is grow organs from them that would be specific to the recipient.
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I'm too lazy to google it, but can't stem cells potentially rebuild damaged nervous systems? I'm not saying we're "there yet," but is that a possibility, or am I missing the concept?

Kind of. Stem Cells can be used to repair spinal cord injuries (I.E. help people walk again).
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Exactly. Embryonic stem cells are more likely to be rejected by the patient than the ASC's that come straight from the patient's own body, a large obstacle that researchers would either need to overcome or simply sidestep by focusing research on ASC's/Pluripotent/whatever you prefer to call them.



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