#1
Basically, i have a tsl100, and it's alright, but that's all i'll say really.
I've been liking the looks of the Orange TH30, but everywhere i've asked would have to order it in for me so i can't try it in store. So if i went for one, i'd have to sell my amp to get it. Basically i dont wanna sell the tsl and be gutted.

Does anyone have a th30? any good?
Also, would it be loud enough to keep up with a loud drummer? Not too fussed on the cleans!
Gear:-
Mesa Single Rectifier
Marshall DSL50 (In the process of modding!)
Fender 2x12 Deville
Marshall 1960 (V30's)
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson SG Special
Fender 'Marcus Miller' Jazz Bass

My Band
Juturna

#2
Great amp, its suited for metal playing really, the cleans are great. Crunch is so-so, its a bit loose but thats part of the vibe.

Yeah its loud enough to keep up with a drummer, i hear the cleans break up quite early though.
#3
Nice! Thanks

Anyone else had any experience ?
Gear:-
Mesa Single Rectifier
Marshall DSL50 (In the process of modding!)
Fender 2x12 Deville
Marshall 1960 (V30's)
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson SG Special
Fender 'Marcus Miller' Jazz Bass

My Band
Juturna

#4
have you retubed your TSL?

what don't you like about your TSL?
My Gear
Guitars:
-Gibson Les Paul Tribute (Bare Knuckle Nailbombs)
-Ibanez "lawsuit" Les Paul (Seymour Duncan Pegasus and Sentinent)
-Ibanez S470 (Dimarzio D-sonic and Humbucker from Hell)
-PRS SE Custom (Guitarforce Black Diamond and Lord of the Blues)

Amp:
Marshall TSL100
EVH 5150III EL-34 50w
Marshall 1960a cab

Effects:
Dunlop 535q wah
Boss Super Chorus
Bogner Uberschall
Ibanez DE7 Delay
Electro-Harmonix Power Booster
Fender PT100 Pedal Tuner

Strings:
Ernie Ball Skinny Top/Heavy Bottom 10-52
#5
Yeah it's all been re tubed very recently. I dunno, it's just a little muddy with my les paul, not much clarity!
Gear:-
Mesa Single Rectifier
Marshall DSL50 (In the process of modding!)
Fender 2x12 Deville
Marshall 1960 (V30's)
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson SG Special
Fender 'Marcus Miller' Jazz Bass

My Band
Juturna

#6
A friend of mine's got one, it's a nice amp. Clean headroom is limited, yes. No squeaky clean cleans on stage for you! Should be enough for most rehearsal spaces though. And the clean channel sounds nice overdriven, anyway.

What music do you play? The TH30 is great, but the TSL has a few tricks up it's sleave that the TH won't do.


EDIT: What tubes are you running in the preamp?
The TSL has better definition under a lot of overdrive than the TH.
Last edited by TheQuailman at May 1, 2011,
#7
I've got no idea what tubes are in it tbh haha! i got it services and the guy in the shop retubed it while it was in! i'm playing a lot of different stuff really, but i use a pretty beefy overdriven tone most the time. Quite fat, plenty of mids.
Gear:-
Mesa Single Rectifier
Marshall DSL50 (In the process of modding!)
Fender 2x12 Deville
Marshall 1960 (V30's)
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson SG Special
Fender 'Marcus Miller' Jazz Bass

My Band
Juturna

#8
The TH has a lot of mids and it sounds really fat and beefy, but it can't compete with the low-end of a 100w TSL. They do sound pretty different, but I guess the Thunder is worth a try, just don't expect it to sound as modern or have as much gain as your TSL. The TH is a good bit mellower.

Look in the back of your amp for tubes. The small ones are the preamp tubes, the one closest to the guitar input jack is usually V1, the first valve in the signal path and the most influential preamp valve regarding tone. See what brand it is. It might be worth to try something that is renown for clarity, like a Tung Sol or a TAD.
#9
If you're having trouble with low frequencies mudding up, I don't think an Orange is your best bet.

Not that the amp is muddy on its own, but it's definitely a darker voicing than the Marshall, so you may end up compounding your problem.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Feel free to express yours so I can make an informed judgement about how stupid you are.
#10
The TH30 isn't that dark tbh. It's not an AC30 for sure, but it's also not as dark as a Rockerverb or something.
Agreed though, if a TSL (which is supposed to handle low frequencies and heaps of gain) is too muddy, a TH30 won't be defined enough probably.
Last edited by TheQuailman at May 1, 2011,
#11
^ That's good to hear, b/c I couldn't stand the RV.

They should have called it the Stonerverb because it had no treble to speak of.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Feel free to express yours so I can make an informed judgement about how stupid you are.
#12
what do you have your eq set at?

do you also have the deep switch engaged?
My Gear
Guitars:
-Gibson Les Paul Tribute (Bare Knuckle Nailbombs)
-Ibanez "lawsuit" Les Paul (Seymour Duncan Pegasus and Sentinent)
-Ibanez S470 (Dimarzio D-sonic and Humbucker from Hell)
-PRS SE Custom (Guitarforce Black Diamond and Lord of the Blues)

Amp:
Marshall TSL100
EVH 5150III EL-34 50w
Marshall 1960a cab

Effects:
Dunlop 535q wah
Boss Super Chorus
Bogner Uberschall
Ibanez DE7 Delay
Electro-Harmonix Power Booster
Fender PT100 Pedal Tuner

Strings:
Ernie Ball Skinny Top/Heavy Bottom 10-52
Last edited by JLT73 at May 1, 2011,
#13
Quote by JLT73
what do you have your eq set at?

do you also have the deep switch engaged?



Bass on 4, mids at 12 o clock, treble on full. The presence is about 3/4 of the way up, and the deep switch is off :/ I wanna try a th30 before i buy it, but there's none in stock anywhere :/ haha
Gear:-
Mesa Single Rectifier
Marshall DSL50 (In the process of modding!)
Fender 2x12 Deville
Marshall 1960 (V30's)
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson SG Special
Fender 'Marcus Miller' Jazz Bass

My Band
Juturna

#14
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Gear:-
Mesa Single Rectifier
Marshall DSL50 (In the process of modding!)
Fender 2x12 Deville
Marshall 1960 (V30's)
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson SG Special
Fender 'Marcus Miller' Jazz Bass

My Band
Juturna

#15
I use a les paul with mine and its anything but muddy. My tone is very clear and articulate.

my eq is basically everything at noonish gain is about there as well. Presence is very low maybe at 9 o'clock.

I wonder if you just got crap tubes or if the bias is just way too cold
My Gear
Guitars:
-Gibson Les Paul Tribute (Bare Knuckle Nailbombs)
-Ibanez "lawsuit" Les Paul (Seymour Duncan Pegasus and Sentinent)
-Ibanez S470 (Dimarzio D-sonic and Humbucker from Hell)
-PRS SE Custom (Guitarforce Black Diamond and Lord of the Blues)

Amp:
Marshall TSL100
EVH 5150III EL-34 50w
Marshall 1960a cab

Effects:
Dunlop 535q wah
Boss Super Chorus
Bogner Uberschall
Ibanez DE7 Delay
Electro-Harmonix Power Booster
Fender PT100 Pedal Tuner

Strings:
Ernie Ball Skinny Top/Heavy Bottom 10-52
#16
Oranges are very dark and thuddy. I personally love their tone for metal, I'm not a fan of the tight stuff.

Just listen to some videos and bands which use oranges and make a choice
I Like Orange......

Wobble Wobble Wub Wub Dakka Dakka
#17
I have a TH30 and I use an MXR 6 band EQ - The result is a very tight and more pronounced bottom end and a bright top end. Thats with stock tubes too.

I play modern / high gain / Alternate rock (Not metal) and this amp is perfect.

Highly recommended.
#18
Just tried a TH30 out at my local shop, Sounds FATTT! definately gonna buy one
Gear:-
Mesa Single Rectifier
Marshall DSL50 (In the process of modding!)
Fender 2x12 Deville
Marshall 1960 (V30's)
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson SG Special
Fender 'Marcus Miller' Jazz Bass

My Band
Juturna