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#41
Quote by '93
but thats the whole point of using modes...resolving to the different notes results in a different sound

however A dorian is still in the key of G major, just using putting emphasis on different notes, mainly A and its argeggio


Unfortunately that's incorrect mate. In the key of G major, everything resolves to G. So if you play the A dorian scale, you're just playing the notes of G major in the key of G major and are just playing G major.

No different sound is created, you're just starting the scale on a different note. Certain members of this forum did convince themselves that it sounded entirely different, this "starting on a note other than the root", but it really doesn't. It's great you've learnt that you can start on any note you wish, but it has nothing to do with modes.
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#43
I think people are getting confused between being in a certain key and using a certain key's key signature.

A Dorian is in A Dorian. However, it uses G Major's key signature. This does NOT mean it's in G Major. It just has the same accidentals.
#44
Quote by '93
but thats the whole point of using modes...resolving to the different notes results in a different sound

however A dorian is still in the key of G major, just using putting emphasis on different notes, mainly A and its argeggio

So E minor scale is in the key of G major too?
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#46
Quote by DiminishedFifth
No.

Read my post.


I think there's many things going on in this thread. However your point is a valid one, that the key signature of G is common amongst A dorian mode, E minor key and the other ones which share the same notes.

As we both know, that's where the similarities end, but yes, it's a valid point.
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#47
Quote by DiminishedFifth
No.

Read my post.


He was asking a rhetorical question to mock OP. Carry on.
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#50
OI, PEOPLE... PLEASE! I did not intend this to become a theory argument!

All I was wanting to know really, was what was used to construct Plug In Baby's intro riff.

Not to mention that entire argument is going over my simple bloke-ish mind. I myself don't need to know the difference between a mode and a scale as of this moment in time... so please stop the argument. Take it to the pit, chat or something. It doesn't belong here. Sorry to put it so bluntly, and I do know it was started in trying to help... but it has gone to far now.
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#51
Quote by Outside Octaves
OI, PEOPLE... PLEASE! I did not intend this to become a theory argument!

All I was wanting to know really, was what was used to construct Plug In Baby's intro riff.

Not to mention that entire argument is going over my simple bloke-ish mind. I myself don't need to know the difference between a mode and a scale as of this moment in time... so please stop the argument. Take it to the pit, chat or something. It doesn't belong here. Sorry to put it so bluntly, and I do know it was started in trying to help... but it has gone to far now.


Well this is a music theory forum.

I gave you the correct answer before, it's the minor scale with accidentals.
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#52
Quote by Outside Octaves
OI, PEOPLE... PLEASE! I did not intend this to become a theory argument!

All I was wanting to know really, was what was used to construct Plug In Baby's intro riff.

Not to mention that entire argument is going over my simple bloke-ish mind. I myself don't need to know the difference between a mode and a scale as of this moment in time... so please stop the argument. Take it to the pit, chat or something. It doesn't belong here. Sorry to put it so bluntly, and I do know it was started in trying to help... but it has gone to far now.


"Discussions" about modes happen fairly often here in Musician Talk. It just so happens that your innocent thread, like many before and many to come, has become a causality of one of these "discussions."
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#53
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I'm pretty sure I recall reading an article in total guitar that Matt makes use of the harmonic scale frequently in his music. When I first started playing guitar and was in a better place than I am now I amassed quite a big collection of guitars, amps, and effects and Matt was my idol. I studied his composing and like I say it's the one scale (harmonic I think) that seems to underpin most tracks. Total genius!! I did however in time lean more towards john squire as my ultimate guitar hero!!
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