Poll: Should women be in active combat in the military?
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View poll results: Should women be in active combat in the military?
Yes
320 81%
No
73 19%
Voters: 393.
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#1
Should females be allowed to serve in positions in the armed forces that would place them in jobs that entail actively participating in situations where there is a high likely hood of receiving fire from enemy personal?

This includes fields like infantry, special operations, covert operations, etc.

This does not include doing things like being in a supply regiment - even though there are incidents of being attacked by enemy personal.

I'll post my thoughts on this issue when the discussion gets going.
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#2
Why the hell not? They're smart enough to make their own decisions.
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#3
Why?
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#4
Yes.
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#5
no. but then again, i don't believe men should be allowed to either
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#7
Obligatory: No, because they should be in the kitchen.


Honest: No, because they are physically less able than men.
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Why the hell not? They're smart enough to make their own decisions.

How does that compare to the fact that many women are not physically able to do the jobs required by active combat positions?
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#9
Yes. I didn't know this was an issue.
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#11
It's all irrelevant when you think about it. Why shouldn't they be allowed? Because they're weak?

Nope.

Because they're dumb?

Nope.

Because they leave their tampons lying around creating a very awkward atmosphere?

Yes.
#14
No. Not because they don't have the strength or anything to do so, but because having them on the front line in combat ****s with the mens minds. The men will try to protect the women, simply out of basic animal instincts. Allowing them to serve makes it more dangerous for every one involved.
#17
No, they should have to stay at home in the kitchen.
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No, they should have to stay at home in the kitchen.

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#19
If they choose so.
It's their decision and I'm pretty sure if they don't want to be in a certain role, they don't have too.
And they'll only be accepted if they have the skills. It's not like these people are Miss America and flaunting their nails.

The onion did a video on something similar to this..
#20
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'Anybody dumb enough to wanna join the millitary should be allowed in'
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There are some horrifically hard working people in the military, who have families and only wanted to provide them with a secure future. You demean this, because?
#21
If they meet the requirements then yes.

The male female interaction could be a problem but there's no real reason they shouldn't.
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'Anybody dumb enough to wanna join the millitary should be allowed in'
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#23
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How does that compare to the fact that many women are not physically able to do the jobs required by active combat positions?
If they were physically unable to do the jobs, wouldn't they fail out of training?

Honestly, I don't see what the problem would be if they are mentally and physically able to do their job.
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There are some horrifically hard working people in the military, who have families and only wanted to provide them with a secure future. You demean this, because?

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#25
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#26
Anyone that can make it through training and handle the physical demands of combat should be allowed to do it, regardless of gender.
#27
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Why not?

Coming from a practical standpoint, it doesn't make since. An infantry-personal carries 75lbs + of combat gear, has to be able to preform feats such as lifting other friendlies over walls, carry wounded or dead friendlies, etc. Most women are not physically able to do this. There are exceptions to that statement, but does that warrant the military in spending extra money weeding out the women that are able to do what is necessary?

Additionally - while it may be something that many consider to be a stupid reason for exclusion - there is no way to tell how having women on the front lines will affect the unity, morale, etc. of the unit. What if the presence of women on the front lines distracts men and ends up getting someone killed? Yes, ideologically it is stupid to prohibit women from serving because of the reaction of men, but practically, it's not feasible for the same reason.

Then there is the issue of things specific to females. Some conditions that active soldiers live in are not friendly to feminine-hygiene. What happens when a female gets pregnant on the front lines and the military has to spend money to evacuate her out of there.

Also, it should be noticed that I'm for equal rights for every human being. Look at the caption under my name... This is about the only exception where I can justify discrimination on the basis of gender.
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#28
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Anyone that can make it through training and handle the physical demands of combat should be allowed to do it, regardless of gender.

Regardless of anything, really. Who cares if the guy covering your ass is gay, female, christian or even a vegetarian?
#29
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No. Not because they don't have the strength or anything to do so, but because having them on the front line in combat ****s with the mens minds. The men will try to protect the women, simply out of basic animal instincts. Allowing them to serve makes it more dangerous for every one involved.

I've heard that argue made in my women's history class. No one will know for sure unless it happens, but I think that my first action in seeing a female physically wounded would be to help her out, even if it puts me in danger.

Men are generally the stronger sex. It's a fact. It's the reason, I believe, that women have usually been in subordinate positions for much of history.
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#30
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'Anybody dumb enough to wanna join the millitary should be allowed in'
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Oh Zoot


If they can pass the same physical testing as male applicants. Yeah sure.

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#31
If that's what they wanna do. It doesn't take too much physical strength to pull a trigger.
#32
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Regardless of anything, really. Who cares if the guy covering your ass is gay, female, christian or even a vegetarian?



Well yeah. I just left that all out since he was specifically asking about gender.
#33
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I've heard that argue made in my women's history class. No one will know for sure unless it happens, but I think that my first action in seeing a female physically wounded would be to help her out, even if it puts me in danger.

Men are generally the stronger sex. It's a fact. It's the reason, I believe, that women have usually been in subordinate positions for much of history.


To the bolded, the British Army actually tested it, and is the reason women are banned from serving in the front line here. Plus, the italicized proves the point
#34
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Well yeah. I just left that all out since he was specifically asking about gender.

I just wanted to pick at vegetarians in a humerous way.

It sounded a lot funnier in my head >__>
#35
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There are some horrifically hard working people in the military, who have families and only wanted to provide them with a secure future. You demean this, because?

If someone became a hitman to provide a secure future would that make it okay?
#36
only if they have a male chaperone
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#37
No, if one was taking as a prisoner of war she would be susceptible to things men would not be, like rape.
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#38
Weeping, women are considered weak in general, and let's face it, a lot of them are. However, I've met more than my fair share of women who could whoop my ass and surpass my physical limits easily.

But like others are saying, if they can meet the requirements, there should be no mention of the word, "gender", at all.

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I understand that, but the amount of disrespect is appalling. Who are we targeting next, firefighters?
#39
I'm okay with anyone being able to join. The more people that join the better, because it pretty much saves me from ever having to serve. If they want to die for oil then I'm fine with it, since it saves me from a potential draft.
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#40
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If someone became a hitman to provide a secure future would that make it okay?

You have no idea what you're talking about. Not all armies are evil and imperialist.
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