#1
i'm looking upgrade to a better guitar, i want something versatile that can handle most genres, (rock, blues, hard rock with a bit of metal maybe) i pretty much play everything except deathmetal really..

so to summarise i'm looking for something that can play a good bit of hard rock and blues, maybe a little metal, but still pull off a good clean tone

any suggestions? so far i've been looking at the ibanez sa 260 but i dunno if thats the one i should get, any advice would be appreciated

p.s my price range is aroundabout 300-350€
Last edited by Kasarve at May 5, 2011,
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I like Ibanez's S470.
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#4
I'm going to second the Ibanez s line. I have an SZ50qm and it is godly. Plays any genre I throw at it and is the most comfortable guitar I've ever played. Thing is my baby

Though a PRS SE if you can get one at your budget would be awesome too.
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Though a PRS SE if you can get one at your budget would be awesome too.


I guess my exchange rate was a LITTLE off. That's right at the lower SE's. Save another 50 pounds or so and go for the PRS Se TS!
#6
would that be the prs se-one? did a check around and found that model going for 380, definitely affordable but i'd wanna playtest it first of course, about the pickups, it has two sets of humbuckers, i'm not the most knowledgable but i was under the impression that you'd want at least one singlecoil for good cleans?
Last edited by Kasarve at May 6, 2011,
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Quote by Kasarve
i'm looking upgrade to a better guitar, i want something versatile that can handle most genres, (rock, blues, hard rock with a bit of metal maybe) i pretty much play everything except deathmetal really..

so to summarise i'm looking for something that can play a good bit of hard rock and blues, maybe a little metal, but still pull off a good clean tone

any suggestions? so far i've been looking at the ibanez sa 260 but i dunno if thats the one i should get, any advice would be appreciated

p.s my price range is aroundabout 300-350€

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#8
A Fender HSS Strat. Just pick the one that's closest in your price range, which would be the Standard.

Not only are they incredibly versatile stock, but can be modded later on into any sound you might want.
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#9
I plinked away on a Michael Kelly Vex today, and have to admit, it was damned nice. It's piqued my interest to investigate further. They seem like a nice versatile guitar.
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would that be the prs se-one? did a check around and found that model going for 380, definitely affordable but i'd wanna playtest it first of course, about the pickups, it has two sets of humbuckers, i'm not the most knowledgable but i was under the impression that you'd want at least one singlecoil for good cleans?


Depends on what kind of clean tone you're trying to get really. I would say give the SEs a spin if you can - they play unbelievably (in that price I'm having a hard time of something that would play better unless you can find the right strat), and you can still can some pretty sweet clean sounds out of humbuckers.

Also check out some Telecasters? I have a buddy who plays everything under the sun on his MIM Tele and swears by it, so that might be worth a look (might look a bit silly to play metal on, but if Blues and Rock are the priority then you can't really go wrong with a Tele).
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#11
ok thanks you've given a pretty good list of stuff to try out i've heard people speak pretty highly of the mim telecasters before, the challenge is finding one that i can try out :P (i live in ireland, not a great selection of instrument shops)

thats why i was asking about the ibanez sa260, theres a local place selling them pretty cheap.. but i'll check for a few of the guitars mentioned here and give them a play

on another note, also looking for a new amp, i've been directed towards either the roland cube 30, or the vox ad30vt? currently i'm leaning towards the vox based on sound samples, it seems better at the cleans and bluesy tones, but what do you guys think?

p.s i've realised i haven't really given you any reference points beyond genres, the stuff i like playing is a mix of The White Stripes, The Black Keys, Audioslave, Staind (break the cycle album mostly) and i'd like to learn some Tool songs at some stage, maybe that will give you a clearer picture of what i'm looking for
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Quote by Kasarve
ok thanks you've given a pretty good list of stuff to try out i've heard people speak pretty highly of the mim telecasters before, the challenge is finding one that i can try out :P (i live in ireland, not a great selection of instrument shops)

thats why i was asking about the ibanez sa260, theres a local place selling them pretty cheap.. but i'll check for a few of the guitars mentioned here and give them a play

on another note, also looking for a new amp, i've been directed towards either the roland cube 30, or the vox ad30vt? currently i'm leaning towards the vox based on sound samples, it seems better at the cleans and bluesy tones, but what do you guys think?

p.s i've realised i haven't really given you any reference points beyond genres, the stuff i like playing is a mix of The White Stripes, The Black Keys, Audioslave, Staind (break the cycle album mostly) and i'd like to learn some Tool songs at some stage, maybe that will give you a clearer picture of what i'm looking for


I understand why you are looking at the ibanez but tbh I wouldn't go near it. In my experience anything ibanez puts out under $600 is pretty useless. They are very outgrowable guitars. I think if you could save a little bit more and check out some of the PRS SE's or even some of the Ibanez models that are around the prices of the SE's you'll be better off. I'd buy something that I not only feels good and sounds good now but I'd be trying to find something that I probably won't outgrow as a musician. I bought the Mikael Akerfeldt signature PRS a few months ago and couldn't be happier. I bought it to replace my Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR and my LP Studio. It's pretty much the perfect blend of both.
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I understand why you are looking at the ibanez but tbh I wouldn't go near it. In my experience anything ibanez puts out under $600 is pretty useless. They are very outgrowable guitars. I think if you could save a little bit more and check out some of the PRS SE's or even some of the Ibanez models that are around the prices of the SE's you'll be better off. I'd buy something that I not only feels good and sounds good now but I'd be trying to find something that I probably won't outgrow as a musician. I bought the Mikael Akerfeldt signature PRS a few months ago and couldn't be happier. I bought it to replace my Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR and my LP Studio. It's pretty much the perfect blend of both.


yeah, i did a quick search for prs's and i found a few se models going for around 380 euro, i'm gonna see if i can find a shop that stocks them so i can give them a playtest.

honestly i do get the feeling with the ibanez sa that it would be something i would grow out of eventually (i played a friends) so you have a very valid point there
#15
How about a Fender Strat?? They are plenty versatile and have been used for a wide variety of musical styles and tastes.

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#16
I have 2 Ibanez S540's. Both were around $600 used which is a great price considering what they were worth back when they were made in the 90's. These are the same or arguably better quality than the Prestige S5470's Ibanez puts out today. Made in Japan, Edge or Lopro tremelos which are on the same level as OFR, and way better than the trems Ibanez puts out today.

I'd say finding one of these would be your best option. I remember seeing some on Sevenstring forums and jemsite a couple days ago. No affiliation.

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#17
PRS SE like others said is great and yeah the S series is great but I'd shy away from the cheap ones. They're god mode when you get a pricey one or a prestige but the cheap end of Ibby isn't too hot, but then again, neither is anything super cheap. They're budget stuff's not bad but their midrange is meh for me at least and, as I see it, if you're buying an 700+ (US dollars that is) non-prestige Ibanez, you shouldn't even bother and score a used prestige for the same price and it will, guaranteed, blow it out of the water. So if you could snag a deal on a used S prestige, go for it. But if not, yeah from what I've tried, the SE from PRS is rather good.
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#18
With the right amp and technique, a lot of guitars you can find in that price range can pull of blues, rock, and some not-super-brutal metal without breaking a sweat.

In this case, it really comes down to what specs you want and which guitars feel best to you. Go make a list and see about trying some out. Once you've tried a few from different companies, figure out which company's guitar struck a note with you (lolpun).

From there you can figure out which guitar that company makes in your price range would fit you best.
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PRS SE like others said is great and yeah the S series is great but I'd shy away from the cheap ones. They're god mode when you get a pricey one or a prestige but the cheap end of Ibby isn't too hot, but then again, neither is anything super cheap. They're budget stuff's not bad but their midrange is meh for me at least and, as I see it, if you're buying an 700+ (US dollars that is) non-prestige Ibanez, you shouldn't even bother and score a used prestige for the same price and it will, guaranteed, blow it out of the water. So if you could snag a deal on a used S prestige, go for it. But if not, yeah from what I've tried, the SE from PRS is rather good.

ibanez mid range to me is kinda moot since you can pickup some really killer MIJ ibanez on the used market for less haha.
#20
Strat or Tele... Maybe a blacktop (humbuckers) if you're mostly going hard rock. The Standard Fenders are going to smoke anything the price range for blues, and assuming a good one with decent set-up, will outplay anything as well...

If you're not opposed to a semi-hollow an Epiphone Dot might work well.
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ibanez mid range to me is kinda moot since you can pickup some really killer MIJ ibanez on the used market for less haha.


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#22
Upper priced Epiphones, MIM Fenders, and PRS SEs are probably your best bets. Maybe some Electomatic Gretsches if you want to focus more on the blues/rock end of the spectrum as opposed to modern metal.
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#24
im selling my ibanez sa260 if your interested its in perfect condition and it can play pretty much any kind of music and gives great variety of tone. i was really impressed with it its really good
#26
Get over the word versatile. Your playing has more to do with it then the actual guitar.
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#29
For versatility you'll want a HSS or HSH guitar (or anything else similar). A HSS strat would surely be one way to go about it.

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