#1
I was wondering if I could put about a 1 pound weight on the back of my sg. I usually play standing up and the neck dive really bothers me seeing as I have to support the neck with my fretting hand. Can I put a weight on the body to change the balance so I do not have to constantly hold up my guitar (this affects how fast and smoothly I play)? Do they sell flat weights I could stick on my guitar anywhere?
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#3
I know what you mean about neck dive, I have the same exact problem. But I don't know if a weight would help all that much. You just have to practice playing while standing up more.

That's what I think, anyway. :/


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#4
Could you just adjust the strap so that its not letting the neck dive? You really don't want to be holding up the neck with your fretting hand, a couple of year with that technique and you will have all sorts of problems. RSI being one of them!

Your fretting hand needs to be free to move.

Im sure you have tried the strap approach but if that don't work definitely find a way to fix it!
#5
A bigsby is too expensive for me to get it in a few days when I need the guitar.
I do mostly play standing up but when I sit down I can be much faster and more accurate because im not supporting any weight with my left hand
Quote by Bag'ed
Hahaha, any paticular reason why the bassist needs to be female or are you just noncing?
You know, school girl and all that, 14-17?
Man, just get out your School of Rock DVD out and crack one off, don't go ruining young girls virtues!
#6
Quote by rex pearson
Could you just adjust the strap so that its not letting the neck dive? You really don't want to be holding up the neck with your fretting hand, a couple of year with that technique and you will have all sorts of problems. RSI being one of them!

Your fretting hand needs to be free to move.

Im sure you have tried the strap approach but if that don't work definitely find a way to fix it!


I have tried putting the strap both higher and lower and nothing has really worked
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Hahaha, any paticular reason why the bassist needs to be female or are you just noncing?
You know, school girl and all that, 14-17?
Man, just get out your School of Rock DVD out and crack one off, don't go ruining young girls virtues!
#7
Quote by poooop
A bigsby is too expensive for me to get it in a few days when I need the guitar.

Is it the price of the bigsby unit? or the cost of the installation?

If it's the installation, then you should be able to install it yourself with what it comes with + a screwdriver or power drill. It should only take fifteen, twenty minutes tops, thirty or forty with a screwdriver.

Also, try your local stores, a lot will carry a B5 Bigsby (the most common, and the one you'd want for an SG. I know GC carries the whole line.
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#8
I've heard of people finding small lead weights and putting them in the control cavity. Don't know if I'd recommend this course of action, but it has been done before.
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Is it an Epiphone?
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#11
I have the same problem and I wonder if I were to change the bridge into solid lead or something, would that fix it? :p

Serious question though.
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Quote by Eddy~
I have the same problem and I wonder if I were to change the bridge into solid lead or something, would that fix it? :p

Serious question though.


You can scratch lead with your fingernail. I can't imagine it being strong enough to hold the strings.
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#15
I'd second the strap that holds better or put some weights in your strap, as that could make it better too, as it would not damage the guitar and if done right its a counter weight.
#16
http://www.fretbase.com/blog/2010/06/the-heads-up-strap/

there's a few different brands of these... no personal experience with them but they seem promising
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#17
1lb isn't going to be enough.

It's much better to get a thicker strap and move the front strap button to the upper horn.

Or make a Warmoth SG, their bodies are made thicker so they balance better.
#18
definitely a strap with more friction, not the nylon ones. suede is very sticky
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#20
heres an idea, instead of being dumb and listening to other morons, use an acoustic strap that holds it up at the headstock an the rear strap pin

oh my god, that was such a hard solution
#21
Use a leather strap. My Jackson was way neck heavy - I bought a leather strap, problem solved.
#22
@ kharn: yeah man it's a good idea but it looks like they beat you to it... too bad that it's kind pricey if you don't have the extra cash to spare. Duct tape and lead weights are much cheaper lol
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a [Pb] and j sandwich? =P
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#25
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You can scratch lead with your fingernail. I can't imagine it being strong enough to hold the strings.

Well some kind of hard heavy material.
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#26
Quote by Delboyuk_01
Buy a strap with a rough inside that grips your shoulder, works for me.

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what you need is a good guitar strap - the guitar will still "feel" neck heavy, but if the strap has a good grip it will stop the neck-dive completely.
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#27
Get a gibson sg they don't neck dive. Only epiphones because of their freakishly huge headstock.
#28
Quote by MadDistortion
Get a gibson sg they don't neck dive. Only epiphones because of their freakishly huge headstock.

gibsons are a little better balanced, but still prone to it.

it's not really anything to do with the headstock though. it's more to do with the location of the strap button - the location of it pushes the center of gravity towards the headstock when you stand up with it. the gibson strap button is a little higher up because the heel is somewhat larger.

Basically - get a good strap that grips on your shoulder. that's the only logical solution to the weight distribution problem of an SG. adding weight to the body of my G-400 (in the form of a trem) didn't help very much at all.
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#29
Quote by MadDistortion
Get a gibson sg they don't neck dive. Only epiphones because of their freakishly huge headstock.


New Gibson SG's aren't as bad as they have more weight in the body and the neck has more support where it joins to the body, 60's profile SG's have bad neck dive as they have less weight and support at the body end and where the neck joins the body, as the Epiphone G400 is designed around a 60's profile SG, this is the reason for the neck dive.
#30
Quote by MadDistortion
Get a gibson sg they don't neck dive. Only epiphones because of their freakishly huge headstock.


It's not an epiphone, it plays sounds way better than any epiphone I have played. It can even get sort of les Paul-ish tone wise, I just hate my neck dive O_o
Quote by Bag'ed
Hahaha, any paticular reason why the bassist needs to be female or are you just noncing?
You know, school girl and all that, 14-17?
Man, just get out your School of Rock DVD out and crack one off, don't go ruining young girls virtues!
#31
Quote by cheeekens
@ kharn: yeah man it's a good idea but it looks like they beat you to it... too bad that it's kind pricey if you don't have the extra cash to spare. Duct tape and lead weights are much cheaper lol



Actually like I said the idea came from my other hobby. I do table top war gaming, you think guitars are expensive, a guitar is just buy a few very expensive things, I buy lots of expensive things for size and weight. Pricing tirade aside I have a lot of pewter stuff that dives to the table regardless of positioning on the base So I have to glue little excess bits of metal (there always are little tabs and stuff) on the base to keep it standing.
#32
I used a heads up strap for my old xiphos, they work alright.
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