#1
I like classic rock and I really want to play the intro to voodoo child.

What do you recommended?

Thanks!
#2
Budget? Crybaby and Vox are commonly used for the old-school wah sound.
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#4
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Well, when Hendrix played it he used a Dunlop Crybaby, so did Slash, and Zakk Wylde...


wat

Dunlop as a company didn't even exist until the 80s.
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#5
I can pull off a pretty good facsimile of Voodoo Chile using a Morley PWA. Getting that sound is more about getting the amp setting right than the type of wah you are using.
I prefer Morleys because there is no actuator pot to wear out, they have a huge base and will never fall over. They have a big pedal with a really nice action. I have one with the switch beside the pedal. It's great for setting as a filter which can be turned on and off without disturbing the position of the pedal.
A Vox or Crybaby may be a more accurate representation of Jimi's pedal but the other advantages that Morley have more than makes up for that imo.
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#6
I thought Hendrix used a Vox...
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#7
Hendrix's gear was modded so it hardly matters. The Vox and the Crybabies are so similar that one mod and you've made a bigger difference than exists between the two stock. There can be more difference between two different Voxes than between a Vox and a Crybaby. Who knows what inductor he had fitted to his for example. And that's just one mod, who knows what else was changed. Wahs are one of the most modded gadgets in town.
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#8
the kirk hammett sig model is awesome, try one!
i love mine, sold my wylde wah and crybaby from hell once i got my kirk hammett wah, its just perfect for me
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#10
Quote by Nirvanafanjonny
I thought Hendrix used a Vox...


You're right. He used a vox clyde mccoy wah. I think people get confused because they have a Hendrix signature wah by Dunlop.
#11
What wah should you get?

Not one recommended on UG.
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#12
Quote by joedango
You're right. He used a vox clyde mccoy wah. I think people get confused because they have a Hendrix signature wah by Dunlop.

The vox clyde mccoy existed back then? Hmmm. Jimi deffinitely used some sort of Vox anyway.

I have a vox V847 and I reckon its excellent. The Clyde McCoy is based on a trumpet wah sound or something, I dunno.

TS: If you want the Jimi sound you ought to go for the Dunlop Jimi Hendrix signature Crybaby. The Vox he actually used won't sound like it did in the 60s. Also, check youtube demos! That's the best way. But sometimes on those demos they aren't using the wah pedal properly, there's a knack to it, so be careful.
#13
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What wah should you get?

Not one recommended on UG.

+1
#14
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Also, check youtube demos! That's the best way. But sometimes on those demos they aren't using the wah pedal properly, there's a knack to it, so be careful.


Ok I'm going to check out some videos.
#17
Also, hendrix is not the only wah stuff i want to play. I also want to play some funk and metallica with the wah. I also like that wah sound that brian may gets in one of his solos (i forgot which one).

Does it really matter what wah i get?
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#18
Quote by joedango
I see that some wahs have true bypass. Is that good or bad?


depends.

it's better than a bad buffer or the other half-assed bypass where half the circuit is still hanging off your signal even when the pedal is bypassed.

Ideal would be a good buffer.

On balance- yeah it's good. I'd rather have TBP than a bad buffer, and in the worst case scenario with TBP (i.e. all your pedals are true bypass), you're still in an easily rectifiable situation- you can just buy a standalone buffer pedal with a known good buffer.
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#19
why wouldnt true bypass be better...it doesnt affect the tone right?
wouldnt a buffer still affect the tone?
#20
^ A good buffer doesn't negatively affect the tone. If ALL of your pedals are TBP, that's effectively like running through possibly 30+ feet of cable, where the resistivity associated with all cables starts to pile up and degrade your tone.
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#21
^ +1

true bypass shouldn't affect the tone... but that ~30ft of cable sure as hell will.

Bit like saying it's not the flames that burn you, it's the heat. Pedantically correct, maybe, but the end result is the same.

EDIT: just to add, an advantage of having your pedals true bypass is that you don't have a bunch of buffers all interacting and shit. You generally want the minimum number of buffers necessary. Plus some pedals (e.g. fuzz) hate coming after buffers.

While true bypass isn't the panacea true bypass pedal manufacturers try to claim it is, it does generally give you the most options for fine-tuning your bypassed tone. You can select the buffers you know are good, and put them exactly where you want in your chain.

That's why I like true bypass. Not because of the marketing bullshit.
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#22
Quote by Slash_is_a_God
^ A good buffer doesn't negatively affect the tone. If ALL of your pedals are TBP, that's effectively like running through possibly 30+ feet of cable, where the resistivity associated with all cables starts to pile up and degrade your tone.


Well, I don't have any pedals. The Wah-wah will be my first pedal.
#23
Quote by Slash_is_a_God
^ A good buffer doesn't negatively affect the tone. If ALL of your pedals are TBP, that's effectively like running through possibly 30+ feet of cable, where the resistivity associated with all cables starts to pile up and degrade your tone.


Resistivity is a measure of how a particular material opposes the flow of current. This is independent of length and based solely on the material used. Resistance is the sum of the resistivity for a particular volume of material and is of no consequence in a guitar cable. The current flow is so small that the voltage drop is practically nonexistant.

Capacitance is what rolls of your high end. This is down to the design and length of the cable. True bypass doesn't add capacitance, it just doesn't counteract it. The only capacitance added by a true bypass pedal is that of the cable connecting it to the rest of the chain. The wiring inside doesn't add any capacitance unless it's shielded.
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#25
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Resistivity is a measure of how a particular material opposes the flow of current. This is independent of length and based solely on the material used. Resistance is the sum of the resistivity for a particular volume of material and is of no consequence in a guitar cable. The current flow is so small that the voltage drop is practically nonexistant.

Capacitance is what rolls of your high end. This is down to the design and length of the cable. True bypass doesn't add capacitance, it just doesn't counteract it. The only capacitance added by a true bypass pedal is that of the cable connecting it to the rest of the chain. The wiring inside doesn't add any capacitance unless it's shielded.


Do specifics really matter THAT much =\ I don't think the TS needs a lesson in the Physics that's going on in this situation, and just needs to know 'long cable runs without buffers = not best idea' *shrug* Excuse me for upsetting you by not clearly and efficiently using the best choice to terminology.
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Do specifics really matter THAT much =\ I don't think the TS needs a lesson in the Physics that's going on in this situation, and just needs to know 'long cable runs without buffers = not best idea' *shrug* Excuse me for upsetting you by not clearly and efficiently using the best choice to terminology.

^ +1
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#27
I haven't gotten to play around with one yet, but from a mechanical standpoint they're all pretty much the same.

It sounds like you're in the same boat as me experience wise, since you said it's your first pedal, so just go with whatever one you can get cheapest. Vox or Crybaby is always good.
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