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ScienceDaily (May 5, 2011) — New research shows that musicians' brains are highly developed in a way that makes the musicians alert, interested in learning, disposed to see the whole picture, calm, and playful. The same traits have previously been found among world-class athletes, top-level managers, and individuals who practice transcendental meditation.

The new study was conducted by Fred Travis, Maharishi University of Management in the US, Harald Harung, Oslo University College in Norway, and Yvonne Lagrosen, University West in Sweden. They relate to high mind brain development, and it appears that this represents a basic potential to become really, really good at something.

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New research shows that musicians' brains are highly developed in a way that makes the musicians alert, interested in learning, disposed to see the whole picture, calm, and playful.


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#3
A lot of the musicians I know are idiots, though.
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Just to point out: musicians... Not guitarists.


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Musicians I know: true
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A lot of the musicians I know are idiots, though.

There's a difference between playing an instrument and being a musician.
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A lot of the musicians I know are idiots, though.


Just think how much stupider they would be if they weren't musicians.

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Quote by Drakathan
There's a difference between playing an instrument and being a musician.


No there isn't.
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No there isn't.


My definition of a musician is someone who actively plays and learns his instrument, and developing his skills further; also writing his own songs if he wants.

Not the kind of douchebag who learns a popular pop-rock song so he can "impress" girls.

Edit: I'm terrible at explaining, but I hope you get the point
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No there isn't.


Oh yes there is. I can kinda play guitar, but I wouldn't consider myself a musician from that aspect. Dream Theater= Musicians, Rush= Musicians, Justin Bieber= NOT A ****ING MUSICIAN.
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Oh yes there is. I can kinda play guitar, but I wouldn't consider myself a musician from that aspect. Dream Theater= Musicians, Rush= Musicians, Justin Bieber= NOT A ****ING MUSICIAN.

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Oh yes there is. I can kinda play guitar, but I wouldn't consider myself a musician from that aspect. Dream Theater= Musicians, Rush= Musicians, Justin Bieber= NOT A ****ING MUSICIAN.



Yeah your brain is definitely not highly developed.
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Quote by Drakathan
My definition of a musician is someone who actively plays and learns his instrument, and developing his skills further; also writing his own songs if he wants.

Not the kind of douchebag who learns a popular pop-rock song so he can "impress" girls.

Edit: I'm terrible at explaining, but I hope you get the point


Quote by Shirate
Oh yes there is. I can kinda play guitar, but I wouldn't consider myself a musician from that aspect. Dream Theater= Musicians, Rush= Musicians, Justin Bieber= NOT A ****ING MUSICIAN.


No and no.

You play music with an instrument? You're a musician.

Oh and you're so cool for dissing Justin Bieber...
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Stop arguing semantics, the point is, this article refers to someone dedicated who has spent all their time mastering music and the theory behind it. Just like any other student in any other field.

You don't just pick up an instrument, and bam, you become the God of All Intelligence.
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Yes he is you tit.

+1

He makes music, it's his job...therefore he is a musician. It'd be dumb to argue otherwise, even if you dislike his music.

I don't think musicians are generally more intelligent, we're just more...bi-polar than everyone else

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Stop arguing semantics, the point is, this article refers to someone dedicated who has spent all their time mastering music and the theory behind it. Just like any other student in any other field.

You don't just pick up an instrument, and bam, you become the God of All Intelligence.

Yeh, I actually read a study (can't remember where though) that after three years of studying music, students will begin to improve in other subjects in school.
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Quote by Miniskirt
You don't just pick up an instrument, and bam, you become the God of All Intelligence.

No, but it probably feels that way the few minutes after you've picked up the bass and mastered it.
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Yeah your brain is definitely not highly developed.


It was more sarcasm for comedic effect (failed) While I don't think my guitar skills warrant it, I am a musician, but more for the drums and singing. I'm not saying all "singers" are musicians, but some musicians are singers.

However, all personal opinions on the matter aside, Webster gives us this:
mu·si·cian noun \myü-ˈzi-shən\
: a composer, conductor, or performer of music; especially : instrumentalist
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#25
Playing an instrument is a physical ability. You learn to play an instrument by building up muscle memory.

Musicianship is a mental/emotional process. You are a musician when the music comes from your head, not your hands.

Of course, musicianship is a lot harder to objectify than playing ability, but I think the musical cognition is fairly natural to humans.

Honestly, I'll be one of the first to admit that most of the time when I play, the music comes from my hands, not my brain. I still call myself a musician though, because I have that musical cognition (even if it gets covered up at times).

And just to completely contradict everything, I think I still consider uninspired playing of an instrument (i.e. when you play with your hands, rather than your mind) music. It may be uninspired music, but it's still music nonetheless.
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Playing an instrument is a physical ability. You learn to play an instrument by building up muscle memory.

Musicianship is a mental/emotional process. You are a musician when the music comes from your head, not your hands.

Of course, musicianship is a lot harder to objectify than playing ability, but I think the musical cognition is fairly natural to humans.

Honestly, I'll be one of the first to admit that most of the time when I play, the music comes from my hands, not my brain. I still call myself a musician though, because I have that musical cognition (even if it gets covered up at times).

And just to completely contradict everything, I think I still consider uninspired playing of an instrument (i.e. when you play with your hands, rather than your mind) music. It may be uninspired music, but it's still music nonetheless.

Understanding deeply how music works/interacts is a mental process. Chords/scales/theory and stuff.
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Quote by Drakathan
My definition of a musician is someone who actively plays and learns his instrument, and developing his skills further; also writing his own songs if he wants.

Not the kind of douchebag who learns a popular pop-rock song so he can "impress" girls.

Edit: I'm terrible at explaining, but I hope you get the point


My definition of a musician is someone who can fart the tune to "I Feel Pretty."


However these researchers didn't consult either of us crazily enough. I think they just went with the standard 'anyone who makes music.'
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Makes sense to me, most of the people I know who are musicians are towards the top of their class. I'm pretty smart I'm just really lazy, unless music is involved, then I'm always up for it.

EDIT: Could I be called a musician if next year I'm going to be working on a degree in music?
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Too bad that most people here are guitarists and not musicians.

I thought the main point that people were trying to say in this thread is that people who play an instrument are musicians.

OT: And I thought this was common knowledge already?
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To those who think playing an instrument does not equal musician: Is Bob Dylan a musician then? Or just simply a lyricist?
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#34
Thought this was pretty common knowledge already. Music draws the intelligent people to it.
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#36
This actually is pretty much ld news, music is a good way to develop your Prefrontal Cortex, (if I remember correctly) which is used for many intelligence-related causes as learning, and doing maths.
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To those who think playing an instrument does not equal musician: Is Bob Dylan a musician then? Or just simply a lyricist?

he's just overrated
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What's the difference?


I'm just gonna take a shot here, I'm not totally sure what these people mean, but I would have to say guitarists who just play covers may not be considered musicians, but guitarists who write thier own music are musicians.
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