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#1
hi , i'm looking for a very closer soad sound ....which pedal do you think it's better ?
#2
Neither bud.
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Neither bud.
Come on, how helpful is that?

@TS: First off, you obviously need to down-tune your guitar, this is what gives SOAD their aggressive sound. Set it to Drop D, then down-tune everything a 1/2 step.
Then, of course, you need to use a lot of gain, but I'm not sure the MT-2 or ML-2 are necessary. Simply use your amp's natural OD with the appropriate EQ setting. Listening to some SOAD, I don't think Daron Malakian puts a lot of bass in his signal. That comes from Shavo's bass. Try and tune your amp EQ to: bass=4, mids=7 and trebble=9.
It may sound weird if you play alone, but if you jam in a band, it could work...
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#6
metal muff is a complete pile of dildos.

Out of the bosses, the mt2 is the better investment because you open up the option of modding.
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Come on, how helpful is that?

@TS: First off, you obviously need to down-tune your guitar, this is what gives SOAD their aggressive sound. Set it to Drop D, then down-tune everything a 1/2 step.
Then, of course, you need to use a lot of gain, but I'm not sure the MT-2 or ML-2 are necessary. Simply use your amp's natural OD with the appropriate EQ setting. Listening to some SOAD, I don't think Daron Malakian puts a lot of bass in his signal. That comes from Shavo's bass. Try and tune your amp EQ to: bass=4, mids=7 and trebble=9.
It may sound weird if you play alone, but if you jam in a band, it could work...

Not very helpful, but what I recommend is not getting either.

Instead put your money towards a POD UX1, buy the metal-shop pack and use the 6505 amp sim. A pretty spot on tone for SOAD.
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#8
these days i'll go to test mt2 and ml2 but i need some settings for them
#9
go A/B them though the same amp and guitar that you are using and that will tell you which is the best.
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#10
What they will sound like and what settings will work best depends largely on what amp they will be plugged in. So if this is your first pedal hunt and you want to turn a beginner amp into a metal machine, I can tell you it will not work. One reason is that the amp won't allow it, another is that both of these pedals are bad, really bad. I'd pick the ML2 out of the two, but that's like picking Herpes over AIDS.

If you want some gear advice, tell us what sounds you want and what gear you already have.
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#12
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One reason is that the amp won't allow it, another is that both of these pedals are bad, really bad.


I disagree. I've owned the MT-2 and I loved it. It has a very nice raw kind of sound. But to the TS, you have to test them out. You can't ask us because you get mixed reviews like you've seen here. It's all subjective. But either way, decide for yourself. Good luck man.
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#13
The MT-2 is the better of the two... but they're both really bad.

Get a Hardwire Metal Distortion. It makes any Boss distortion look like a kids meal toy. Which they might as well be anyway. (New ones anyway. Old ones are pretty sweet)
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#15
Yes. But then, getting kicked in the balls by a horse is better than the MT2.

Hate to repeat myself, but seriously:
If you want some gear advice, tell us what sounds you want and what gear you already have.
#18
If we don't know what gear you have...

WE. CAN. NOT. HELP. YOU.

Give us something to work with and you'll get some good reccomendations. Until you do, you're not going to get any good advice.
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#19
I think i can already guess the recommendation.

I can probably guess the exact quote of what will be said to this guy once he posts his gear.

I really dont have to say it do i?

#20
No you do not. Hell, if he's considering the MT/ML/POS-2 I think it's pretty safe to assume he needs that recommendation anyway.
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#21
mxr fullbore is the best pedal i have used for metal. it is impossible to even get a crunchy/vintage tone out of this thing with the gain turned all the way down. it has insane amounts of gain on tap, and also has an on board noise gate as well as an adjustable mid scoop. if your looking for a pedal solely for metal, this is what you want. if mine died, i'd buy another one as soon as i could
#22
Well, I'm far from expert on aything guitar to be honest, but I compared all the distortion pedals from Boss at the local Guitar Center. I went with the MD-2 because I liked the stronger bass sound it had. I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with SOAD to say whether or not the MD-2 is a good choice, sorry. I listen to them and like them, but I'm far from good enough to even attempt to play them . My only point is that if you're set on a Boss pedal for distortion, why not consider all of them...
#23
In my personal experiences with my MT-2, it has a horrible fizz to its top end that you can't eq out of it very easily. Not sure if it's my pedal's mid knobs that aren't working properly, or my amp. In any case though, my amp is weird in that it cuts the top end treble spikes of it when I have my distortion channel's preamp gain all the way up while I use the clean. As I say, weird, but takes alot of the fizz out of it. It's kind of like the difference between flicking a bright switch on and off, or flicking a vintage/modern switch (like on my amp, hah)

I also got some absolutely fab sounds using it on a peavy basic 112, but that was a bass amp (lol)

tl;dr - MT2 has some harsh top end fizz in the distortion that you might not like.
Not seen a metalcore, but meh.
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#24
I thought I had read that Daron had endorsed the Metal Zone. Of course, I highly doubt he actually used it on his actual rig. Honestly distortion pedals for cheap just arnt very good. These pedals are often criticized for a good reason. They just dont cut it. You will find these things are much like most peoples experience buying a line 6 spider. You think its awesome at first but after using it enough you get this intense urge to upgrade. Be smart with your money and just get a decent amp and laugh at those who waste money chasing these crap pedals.
#25
The Metalzone is rad. You can literally take out 4 components and it opens up beautifully. It's the better choice. A few easy mods and it is awesome. I STILL use mine. Never thought I would still be using a "shit" boss distortion.
#26
you could always get both and stack them? just leave the gain on about half for each.
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#28
my gear is a Kustom HV30 amplfiier , and a Tenson Nashville LP Black guitar
#29
Try the EHM Metal Muff.

is the EH MEtal Muff better than the mt 2 ?


FYI, the Metal Muff IS an MT-2 with a fixed mid frequency control and a boost tacked onto the end.

Funny. So much hate for the MT-2 but not for the Metal Muff.
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FYI, the Metal Muff IS an MT-2 with a fixed mid frequency control and a boost tacked onto the end.

Funny. So much hate for the MT-2 but not for the Metal Muff.


I know what you mean, the metal muffs I've heard have had far, far too much gain. Really trashy and plasticy. And not in a good way.

Seriously you need to tell us what amp you have. It's like picking an engine for a car without knowing what car you're going to put in it. Putting a huge, super powerful V12 monster in a vintage, hand made car would be stupid.
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I know what you mean, the metal muffs I've heard have had far, far too much gain. Really trashy and plasticy. And not in a good way.

Seriously you need to tell us what amp you have. It's like picking an engine for a car without knowing what car you're going to put in it. Putting a huge, super powerful V12 monster in a vintage, hand made car would be stupid.


He did look up 2 posts from yours
#32
yes i did " Kustom HV30 amplfiier and Tenson Nashville LP Black guitar"
#33
What can you recommend? to be processor / pedal, maximum: 125 Euro
#36
i heard that at low volumes the mt-2 pretty rocks , but at high volumes when play with the band the sound isn't so good ? is that truth ? i wish could test it but can't and don't want to have any surprise of it, if i'll buy it (no store with mt-2 in my town or suround my town, if i will buy it i will get it from thomann )
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i heard that at low volumes the mt-2 pretty rocks , but at high volumes when play with the band the sound isn't so good ? is that truth ? i wish could test it but can't and don't want to have any surprise of it, if i'll buy it (no store with mt-2 in my town or suround my town, if i will buy it i will get it from thomann )

No, it's sounds pretty shitty at all volumes...fizzy, pissweak thin and no balls.
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#38
I haven't tried the ml-2 however i personally use the mt-2 as my source of distortion in my rig and i can tell you its an extremely versatile and powerful pedal.u can get a whole range of sounds from it incuding soad and u can tweak it from there to your own personal sound
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#39
Check out some of the Blackstar distortion pedals or the Barber Dirty Bomb. If you can afford it, try the Okko Dominator.
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#40
i asked something but nobody answered...."it sounds good and at high volumes when play in the band ? "
i don't ask if it's good or shit or anything
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