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Shocking title to get your attention, though the statement is true. Below is an excerpt from the article.

EDIT: Title fail. Taxpayers', not Taxpayer's

About 60 late-stage alcoholics live at St. Anthony Residence in St. Paul, which is partly funded by the state of Minnesota, and operated by Catholic Charities. It's not a treatment center, although residents have access to counselors.

They're even allowed to drink at St. Anthony -- the alcohol isn't provided, but the men are allowed to bring it to the residence.

The residents receive a monthly check of $89, and most of it goes to alcohol. "We can use that cash on anything we want to do," resident Ray Spoor says, matter-of-factly. "And I don't only use it on alcohol, I use it on personal needs like toiletries ... but after that, I use it on booze."

A University of Washington-led research team studied a group of 95 chronically homeless alcoholics and found that in one year, they cost taxpayers more than $8 million in hospitalizations, detox center treatments and incarcerations.

When the same group spent one year in Seattle's Housing First program -- residences where they are allowed to drink -- the same group cost $4 million in taxpayer money, according to the study, which was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.


Source.

Each St. Anthony's resident costs about $18,000 a year to house and feed, about $1,500 a month.

A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association indicates that if these men were out on the street, it could cost over $4,000 a month in incarceration, shelter and sobering center use, hospital-based medical services, publicly funded alcohol and drug detoxification and treatment, and emergency medical services.


Source. Emphasis added by me.


TL;DR: "Wet-houses" are state-funded residences for late stage alcoholics, who are allowed to drink in the house, and are not required to receive treatment for their addiction. Multiple studies have demonstrated that this saves significant (50% or more) amounts of taxpayer dollars v.s. other methods of dealing with homeless alcoholics.


So, Pit, what are your thoughts on these "wet-houses?"

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#2
as bad as it sounds it makes sense. If it saves money then why not.
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You are talking about $89 a month.

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as bad as it sounds it makes sense. If it saves money then why not.

i think i heard something a while ago about some rehab centers in holland letting alcoholics get a little bit of beer every day and apparently it was working, but yeah, this does seem like a sensible thing to do.
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Regardless of the financial advantages, are wet-houses violating some sort of ethical calling/mandate by enabling addicts essentially free access to their addiciton?

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Seems logical - what would you rather pay? 8 million quid or 4 million quid? Pretty sure there'll be some butthurt people going "we shouldn't have to pay anything", but there's not yet been a plan to effectively make that possible.
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I say if it saves money sure thing.
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#15
People are watching the $ signs instead of the actual problem. THEY ARE HOMELESS! What else are they gonna buy? Instead of bitching about how they waste your money how about you spend the money on getting them on their feet so you don't have to support them anymore?
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People are watching the $ signs instead of the actual problem. THEY ARE HOMELESS! What else are they gonna buy? Instead of bitching about how they waste your money how about you spend the money on getting them on their feet so you don't have to support them anymore?


You will be wasting your money twice. Plus you will be letdown when they revert back to their old ways.
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Sounds like the legalized heroin idea in Canada and Switzerland I learned about ten minutes ago. I'd definatley be down to chill at this place and get paid.
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