#1
Hey!
So I'm looking to upgrade my Squire strat to a Fender but I don't really know much about the different types they have, then I got confused because there are so many different makes and models .. Can someone explain the difference between them all (Hope that makes sense)

First off.. American, Mexican or Jap?
Telecaster
Stratocaster
Jaguar Fender
Jazzmasters
Mustangs
Etc..

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#3
can't really say i'm a pro with fenders but if you listen to those kind of bands i'd check out the 72' telecaster deluxe
#4
first thing you must understand is that you kind of have to try them out...each of them are very different but all good

teles are very bright and can get twangy.

strats are quite modest sounding i find...not really in your face like teles are. i prfer them tbh and they are quite versatile

jags are very nice and i recently bought one. i find it is chimey...not really sure of the word. very versatiles, loads of different voicings

never played the others

i suggest the HH jag cp
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#6
Quote by szekelymihai
Try and check what the members of those bands play., i think Cobain played a Mustang


and he played a jag, both with humbuckers
#7
cobain did play mustangs ans jaguards but with humbuckers, so a dender wuth single coil will ot get you anywhere near cobains tone, each gutiar has a special something, i reccomend you to spend some time researching and trying out the guitars before you decide which guitar you want
#8
umm gooder is not a word....I believe the word your looking for is better....using words like gooder kinda makes you look lie an idiot.....just saying
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#9
If you dont know what any of them sound like, why do you want one?
Why are you limiting yourself just to Fenders?

not saying they are bad, I have one, but just wondering, why have you chosen them, if it's not for the sound?

might be worth checking out some other guitars too.
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#10
Tele... different levels of Twang. bright and articulate.
Mustang... That classic surf sound. less twangy, between a Tele and a Strat.
Strat... Warmer with more versatiliy and range.

I have all of the above in Fender USA. I have A Squier Tele and had a Squier Strat and Tele CV50 and CVC.

Those a re VERY broad descriptions. As for USA, MIM, or CIJ that comes down to your budget. I have found that a good Squier Tele CV50 ($350 new) can almost keep up with a USA made Fender Tele ($1200 new) tone wise. Build wise, you will notice a difference. But is that difference worth the price to you?

You need to play and hear them for yourself. So go to a shop and play as many as you can up to 15% over your budget (you can haggle them down). And like it was said, don't just play Fenders, play EVERYTHING that catches your eye. You'll never know what gem is sitting there waiting for you. The right guitar will speak to you like no other... I'm not kidding.

Lastly, trust your ears, fingers, and eyes... in that order. Don't let pretty override how it sounds and feels. That only leads to buyer's remorse.

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Quote by machineslave
umm gooder is not a word....I believe the word your looking for is better....using words like gooder kinda makes you look lie an idiot.....just saying

Hate to be the one to say...but using "your" when you should use "you're" makes you look like an even bigger idiot..
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#13
Quote by kaneorsomething
Cobain had a modified mustang with a humbucker in the bridge and a single at the neck.

This.


With the bands you listed I would check out the 72' Tele Deluxe re-issue, a Jaguar, and/or the new Pawn Shop Mustang. I think any of those would fit what you are looking for quite nicely.
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The more expensive it is, the gooder it is also.



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Hey!
So I'm looking to upgrade my Squire strat to a Fender but I don't really know much about the different types they have, then I got confused because there are so many different makes and models .. Can someone explain the difference between them all (Hope that makes sense)

Firstly, each Fender "model" will generally have the same sonic characteristics regardless of the guitar's manufacturing origin. (Yes, there are differences between MIM, CIJ, and MIA Fenders but that's the subject of a million other threads). It is generally assumed that there are four "tiers" of Fender Guitars, starting with (1)Squier (East Asian Imports, not always considered a real Fender), (2)Made in Mexico, (3) Made in America, and (4) Fender Custom Shop. There are smaller tiers with in each one (e.g. Fender Classic Player, Fender American Vintage, Squier Vintage Modified, Masterbuilt etc), but that's just splitting hairs for what we're talking about. There is also Fender Japan (or CIJ), which sits around the same area of quality of MIA, however, they are made for a Japanese only market, and have to be imported to North America or Europe.

The Telecaster
Telecasters are known for their twangy bite. If you've spent enough time around telecasters you start to hear them everywhere, like most Fenders, they have a very distinct sound. You can hear it on a cheap Squier and on the most expensive American. A few variations of the Telecaster is the Tele Deluxe (Dual Humbucker), Tele Custom (Humbucker and a Single coil) and Tele Thinline (a hollowbody Tele). They are have a certain jangle to them, but there sounds are, obviously, much different.


The Stratocaster
Stratocasters are chameleons. They can make all sorts of sounds and play all kinds of music. If there was one sound that a Strat is most know for, it'd be call the "Strat Quack" which you here in a lot of 50s Rock 'n' Roll. It happens in the 2 and 4 pickup positions (the 2 pickup positions), and is the result of something called "phasing", which is caused by two pickups being too close together. It creates a sort of nasal, quirky tone. A good example would be the solo of "Lay Down Sally". However, there are a whole ton of Strat players that do not use the "Strat Quack" sound, like John Mayer and Yngwie Malmsteen , and they still sound very Strat like. The Strat can play any style you can.


The Jazzmaster
Jazzmasters are Fender's long lost guitar. They were never very popular, and even in their heyday they were competing against other Fender models like the Stratocaster and Jaguar. They basically came around as a replacement for the Stratocaster in the Fender line, as the "premeire" guitar in the Fender line (note; the Stratocaster was meant to replace the Telecaster as the "budget" Fender guitar and the Telecaster was supposed to be phased out). For a good picture on how JMs sound, take a listen to this.


The Jaguar
Jaguars are probably Fender's least popular designs, but not because of quality. When the Jaguar first debuted, it was aimed, primarily at Surf Musicians. So it has a very bright, punchy sound from it's unique pickups. It also had a Rhythm/Lead circuit, a feature it shared with the Jazzmaster, meaning it could also get quite dark and warm, as well. It used to be in the 70's, 80's and 90's people bought Jaguars and Jazzmasters because they were fairly cheap because nobody wanted them (they were both discontinued in the late 70's due to poor sales). Now, people usually only buy them if they want the sound of a Jazzmaster or Jaguar or want to be different than all the Strat and Tele Players but still want a Fender. They are both rather limiting, in both stock capabilities, and their willingness to accept upgrades so I would not recommend either of them to someone who doesn't already know what they are like.


The Student Models
Mustangs, Musicmasters and Duo-Sonics are Fender's student models, a slot now filled by Squier guitars. On the whole, they usually have weak pickups and questionable quality at best. While they aren't necessarily bad instruments, they weren't built to last. Original Duo-Sonics, Mustangs and Musicmasters are highly collectable items, but only because of their rarity, not because there's that much special about them (as opposed to a '59 Gibson Les Paul, which is prized for it's tone). The current reissue of the Mustang is probably the best quality that model has ever received and is a great instrument. The Squier reissue of the Duo-sonic is easily one of the worst guitars in the current Fender repertoire; there is a reason why it was discontinued three times. The Musicmaster has not been reissued.


The CBS-era Models
These include the Fender Swinger (also called the Fender Arrow), the Fender Bronco, the Fender Marauder and the Fender Coronado. They're neat collectors items, but are generally accepted as crap on a stick, except for the Coronado. The Coronado was Fender's take on the Epiphone Casino: a hollowbody ES-335 style guitar with a Stratocaster neck. As opposed to other CBS-era guitars, which suffered sever cost-cutting measures of production, at the time of its introduction, the Coronado was the most expensive instrument Fender had ever made. None of these guitars were designed by Leo Fender.
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Firstly, each Fender "model" will generally have the same sonic characteristics regardless of the guitar's manufacturing origin. (Yes, there are differences between MIM, CIJ, and MIA Fenders but that's the subject of a million other threads). It is generally assumed that there are four "tiers" of Fender Guitars, starting with (1)Squier (East Asian Imports, not always considered a real Fender), (2)Made in Mexico, (3) Made in America, and (4) Fender Custom Shop. There are smaller tiers with in each one (e.g. Fender Classic Player, Fender American Vintage, Squier Vintage Modified, Masterbuilt etc), but that's just splitting hairs for what we're talking about. There is also Fender Japan (or CIJ), which sits around the same area of quality of MIA, however, they are made for a Japanese only market, and have to be imported to North America or Europe.

The Telecaster
Telecasters are known for their twangy bite. If you've spent enough time around telecasters you start to hear them everywhere, like most Fenders, they have a very distinct sound. You can hear it on a cheap Squier and on the most expensive American. A few variations of the Telecaster is the Tele Deluxe (Dual Humbucker), Tele Custom (Humbucker and a Single coil) and Tele Thinline (a hollowbody Tele). They are have a certain jangle to them, but there sounds are, obviously, much different.


The Stratocaster
Stratocasters are chameleons. They can make all sorts of sounds and play all kinds of music. If there was one sound that a Strat is most know for, it'd be call the "Strat Quack" which you here in a lot of 50s Rock 'n' Roll. It happens in the 2 and 4 pickup positions (the 2 pickup positions), and is the result of something called "phasing", which is caused by two pickups being too close together. It creates a sort of nasal, quirky tone. A good example would be the solo of "Lay Down Sally". However, there are a whole ton of Strat players that do not use the "Strat Quack" sound, like John Mayer and Yngwie Malmsteen , and they still sound very Strat like. The Strat can play any style you can.


The Jazzmaster
Jazzmasters are Fender's long lost guitar. They were never very popular, and even in their heyday they were competing against other Fender models like the Stratocaster and Jaguar. They basically came around as a replacement for the Stratocaster in the Fender line, as the "premeire" guitar in the Fender line (note; the Stratocaster was meant to replace the Telecaster as the "budget" Fender guitar and the Telecaster was supposed to be phased out). For a good picture on how JMs sound, take a listen to this.


The Jaguar
Jaguars are probably Fender's least popular designs, but not because of quality. When the Jaguar first debuted, it was aimed, primarily at Surf Musicians. So it has a very bright, punchy sound from it's unique pickups. It also had a Rhythm/Lead circuit, a feature it shared with the Jazzmaster, meaning it could also get quite dark and warm, as well. It used to be in the 70's, 80's and 90's people bought Jaguars and Jazzmasters because they were fairly cheap because nobody wanted them (they were both discontinued in the late 70's due to poor sales). Now, people usually only buy them if they want the sound of a Jazzmaster or Jaguar or want to be different than all the Strat and Tele Players but still want a Fender. They are both rather limiting, in both stock capabilities, and their willingness to accept upgrades so I would not recommend either of them to someone who doesn't already know what they are like.


The Student Models
Mustangs, Musicmasters and Duo-Sonics are Fender's student models, a slot now filled by Squier guitars. On the whole, they usually have weak pickups and questionable quality at best. While they aren't necessarily bad instruments, they weren't built to last. Original Duo-Sonics, Mustangs and Musicmasters are highly collectable items, but only because of their rarity, not because there's that much special about them (as opposed to a '59 Gibson Les Paul, which is prized for it's tone). The current reissue of the Mustang is probably the best quality that model has ever received and is a great instrument. The Squier reissue of the Duo-sonic is easily one of the worst guitars in the current Fender repertoire; there is a reason why it was discontinued three times. The Musicmaster has not been reissued.


The CBS-era Models
These include the Fender Swinger (also called the Fender Arrow), the Fender Bronco, the Fender Marauder and the Fender Coronado. They're neat collectors items, but are generally accepted as crap on a stick, except for the Coronado. The Coronado was Fender's take on the Epiphone Casino: a hollowbody ES-335 style guitar with a Stratocaster neck. As opposed to other CBS-era guitars, which suffered sever cost-cutting measures of production, at the time of its introduction, the Coronado was the most expensive instrument Fender had ever made. None of these guitars were designed by Leo Fender.


^This.

But I agree with what (someone in this thread) said about the guitars. If you don't know what the sounds are, and if you haven't tried them out, don't limit yourself to just Fender even though they are great guitars.
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The older it is, the gooder it is.

The more expensive it is, the gooder it is also.


i disagree.
PRS with 14 karat gold bird inlays aren't better than a production line same model.
fender relic'd guitars from custom shop can't be better than say a custom shop normal model of the same type wood etc.
same with gibson reissue's
one thing for example, gibson les paul pearly gates, billy gibbons signature, you have the regular model or the signed model, the signed is a lot of dollar more but is it better? i doubt that.

as for sound i'd say listen to some bands that play with them.
i'd say the telecaster has that country like twang that is most asociated with telecasters.
classic stratocasters just have this nice bright tone to them.

i recommend to look on youtube to the frettedamericana videos you can hear the tones of different models via those.