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#1
I'm just curious what everyone thinks.

Honestly at low volume I dont notice much of a difference, SS may even sound better at quiet volumes.

Just post thoughts on this and do not start a war here.

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Last edited by gregs1020 at May 13, 2011,
#2
No.

Not at low volume.

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#3
No they can't. They're better.

/thread.
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#4
Wrong,

to get proper tube tone you have to crank them, at low volume SS is boss.

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#5
Tubes>Silicone .
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#6
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Tubes>Silicone .



At low volume?

Please

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#7
I had a Bassman 100 that got pretty close to a solid state sound when overdriving. Not quite the same, but very close.
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#8
My spider IV sounds awesome at bedroom level, but tube amps are better for cranking up the volume/gigging.

Has this been said before?
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#9
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#10
Well the other day i tried out this all tube blackstar ht5 and it sounded better then a marshal mg at teh low volumez
#11
Which SS and which tube amp is what I believe this really boils down to.

If were talking about a VH-140 and a 5150, then the VH will stomp on the 5150s genitals repeatedly.

But if the SS is just total crap (aka Spider or the like) then the tube will still kick the shit out of it.

Now, if we're talking top end of each, e.g. a VH 140 and a Diezel, they will be pretty comparable in terms of quality, and it is just which tone you prefer. A super high quality tube amp should still sound fairly good, even at lower volumes. If it doesn't, you sir are using an amp that ruins fragile harmonics.
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#12
Quote by coolstoryangus
Well the other day i tried out this all tube blackstar ht5 and it sounded better then a marshal mg at teh low volumez

That's cheating though, I heard that amp has clipping diodes.
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#14
Quote by Blick71
Which SS and which tube amp is what I believe this really boils down to.

If were talking about a VH-140 and a 5150, then the VH will stomp on the 5150s genitals repeatedly.

But if the SS is just total crap (aka Spider or the like) then the tube will still kick the shit out of it.

Now, if we're talking top end of each, e.g. a VH 140 and a Diezel, they will be pretty comparable in terms of quality, and it is just which tone you prefer. A super high quality tube amp should still sound fairly good, even at lower volumes. If it doesn't, you sir are using an amp that ruins fragile harmonics.
Is that how you really feel?
#15
at girst i thought you were trollling greg and maybe you still are but i'll chime in. soild state probably sounds better at low volume however you need to get a higher quality solid state amp than the run of the mill vypers and spiders to get a really good tone. thats why i have a 5 watt tube amp so i can turn it up to 3 or 4 and boost it into overdrive with my sd-1, it sounds hella lot better than my old spider that i had
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#16
Quote by coolstoryangus
REALLY? but blackstar said its all tubes

damn them! DAMN THEM TO HELL!

It only uses tubes in the tube sockets, therefore its all tube. The diode clipping stage is just to help it sound more like an SS. Its not a dead-on reproduction of that coveted SS overdrive sound, but its a pretty good emulation.
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#18
I live by the motto "solid state is best" which is why I only gig with an MG or a Frontman
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#19
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#20
Something familiar about this thread :p
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#21
Status Quo have a Marshall head with a SS Vox hidden inside. How else could they get such a consistent sound regardless of how hard they hit the strings?
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#22
The fact that it has been done literally hundreds of times? Nevermind that's your thread... This one is actually a new topic.
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#23
I'll stick with my Valve Junior.
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#24
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Wrong,

to get proper tube tone you have to crank them, at low volume SS is boss.

This.
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#25
It all depends...(for example) If you can get a tube amp that switches wattage (like from 50w, to 5w or something like that), the Tube will win EVERYTIME...HANDS DOWN...because you get amazing tones at the 5w...just not good cleans...

SS are somewhat better for practice senarios but if your with a band and practicing, tube is the only way to go...

Even thought tubes generally cost an arm and a leg to buy, they are worth it...not many SS amps can capture the warmth of a good tube amp...they generally sound insanely stale and lifeless, where as tubes sound creamy and hot
#26
Quote by SilentFactor
Tubes>Silicone .




better than


?

Not so sure about that...
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#27
I'm with Matt on that one
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#29
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#32
solid state and hybrid amps are like breast implants whereas tube amps are all natural.
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

...A little too proud, to be honest.
#33
I dunno. Fake titties can be shaped pretty nicely if done well. They may not be as pleasing to play with but they're nice to look at. Some natural titties I've seen have looked like saggy bananas.
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#34
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I dunno. Fake titties can be shaped pretty nicely if done well. They may not be as pleasing to play with but they're nice to look at. Some natural titties I've seen have looked like saggy bananas.

exactly, that is the difference between solid state and tube amps - tube amps 'feel' nicer to play through

oh and tube sag
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

...A little too proud, to be honest.
#35
HAHAHAHA guys...jesus....

i might as well say that naturals generally feel better...alot better...even thought fakes look better...ALOT better...hot damn do they look good LOL...

tubes beat SS...lets just leave it at that before i ruin my keyboard
#36
Quote by B.C. RICH5000
HAHAHAHA guys...jesus....

i might as well say that naturals generally feel better...alot better...even thought fakes look better...ALOT better...hot damn do they look good LOL...

tubes beat SS...lets just leave it at that before i ruin my keyboard



But they dont

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#37
Quote by B.C. RICH5000
It all depends...(for example) If you can get a tube amp that switches wattage (like from 50w, to 5w or something like that), the Tube will win EVERYTIME...HANDS DOWN...because you get amazing tones at the 5w...just not good cleans...

SS are somewhat better for practice senarios but if your with a band and practicing, tube is the only way to go...

Even thought tubes generally cost an arm and a leg to buy, they are worth it...not many SS amps can capture the warmth of a good tube amp...they generally sound insanely stale and lifeless, where as tubes sound creamy and hot


Every time? hands down? So if I buy an epiphone valve junior it will automatically sound better than an ampeg vh140 or axe fx for metal tones?
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#38
Quote by InanezGuitars44
Every time? hands down? So if I buy an epiphone valve junior it will automatically sound better than an ampeg vh140 or axe fx for metal tones?


+1

This argument is dumb. There are so many other variables than just 'tubes or SS'...

I'll take the VH140 over a Fender Twin for the music I play
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#39
The whole arguement of SS vs Tube is dumb...its all personal preferance and theres so many variables that come into play...

I might like the gain setting of a Recto but i might like the cleans on a Roland Jazz better...that doesnt mean that the Recto cant get good cleans...

These threads are generally pointless, and starting one is useless because you get tons of people saying "this is better than this" or "this is better than this because its vintage/tube/better than SS/not a piece of shite"

VERY rarily do you get SS amps that sound as good as tube amps...very rarely do you find Tube amps as cheap as SS amps...very rarely do you find Tube amps that sound worse than a cheap SS amp (like a Spider), but at the same time very rarely do you find a SS amp that sounds like a Mesa Mark IV

^That solves this whole thread completely
#40
Quote by Cathbard
Status Quo have a Marshall head with a SS Vox hidden inside. How else could they get such a consistent sound regardless of how hard they hit the strings?

I met Alan Lancaster a few months back, this is truth.
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