#1
Is it good? I think i'm getting one as my second guitar (my first one is a Squier Fender Stratocaster). I play mostly metal and hard rock, and I know it isn't the best guitar for metal but I may change the pickups later (for some Emg 81/85 maybe).

Just tell me your opinions about it
#2
The G-400 is my first and favorite guitar and my main gigging axe. A quick pickups swap and you're set forever. Everything else on it feels fantastic. I cannot recommend it enough. But go to a store and try one for yourself as SG style guitars aren't for everyone.

Epiphone Wilshires are similar in feel but have different proportions as far as weight distribution so that might be worth looking into as an alternative though as pickup swap is mandatory as well for the tones you're looking for.

They may or may not have discontinued it but at one point they made a normal looking G-400 with EMG 81/85s already installed. If they did discontinue it check out the Prophesy line of G-400s. They have flame maple caps, edgy inlays, wicked stain finishes, streamlined controls and either have Gibson Dirty Fingers with coil taps or EMGs and a Floyd Rose depending on the variation.
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#3
SG400 = awesome considering how little you can pick them up for, I loved mine and wished I hadnt sold it.

When you a good one, they are absolutely brilliant.

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#4
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If they did discontinue it check out the Prophesy line of G-400s. They have flame maple caps, edgy inlays, wicked stain finishes, streamlined controls and either have Gibson Dirty Fingers with coil taps or EMGs and a Floyd Rose depending on the variation.


Yeah, the Standard G400 with EMG's was a limited edition. But the Prophesy models are AWESOME. They feel a lot better than the standard Epis (the finish is a lot more comfortable and the setup is usually a bit better) and the tone is fantastic. (There is no SG with a Floyd Rose, though - the body's too thin to fit one. You can get a Les Paul or Explorer with a Floyd, but not an SG.)
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#5
I would look for the Tony Iommi sig, possible the best SG epiphone have ever made.

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#6
i have a couple of G-400s that served me well for years. they are nice guitars for the money, though i strongly recommend you try to pick up a '90s G-400. i have a '99 G-400 custom that cost me £190, and is absolutely superb considering what i paid for it - easily something i'd expect to be paying £400-£500 for brand new.
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Yeah, the Standard G400 with EMG's was a limited edition.


That's what I thought.

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(There is no SG with a Floyd Rose, though - the body's too thin to fit one. You can get a Les Paul or Explorer with a Floyd, but not an SG.)


Ah my mistake then. It's been a while since I've looked at a G-400 other than my own so I wasn't exactly sure but I remembered that other models in the Prophesy line had FRs. Thanks for catching that.
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#8
I personally hate them with a passion. But some people like them.

However, I don't think you should buy one, and not because I don't like them. I don't think you should buy one because it's not a significant step up from your current guitar. I'd go used and get a much better guitar for less money, or even the same price.
#9
For its price -- a great guitar.
Compared to great guitars -- a weak guitar.

If you have a Squier Strat, you will definitely love the Epi SG. I have both a Squier Strat and an Epiphone SG. Both are very nice guitars. But when I compare my Epi SG to my truly great guitars (my White Falcon, my Fender Strat and Tele, my Rickenbacker...) I see just how inferior the Epi SG can be.

Look, for bashing about the Epiphone SG is a blast. Mine can growl, mine can be smooth. It really is a very nice guitar. Only thing I really dislike about it is the finish -- too much striping on these newer Epi SGs.

My Epi SG is the Custom Shop 1966 Heritage model. I chose that one because of the full pickguard and '66 is the same year as my Mustang:
#10
I have a G-400 vintage, and I think its a realy nice guitar. Build wise it is nice, wood is nice finish is super smooth to play (The vintage has the satin finish). The pick-ups are so-so, not that great though. But with an electronics change, and set up it is an amazing deal. I bought mine new for $299 and then bought a Duncan SH-4 $72, installed the p/u myself and I have a great sounding/playing guitar for less than $400 new.Now take in to consideration I have owned quite a few $$$$ guitars, and while it's not up to par with my PRS, it is made as well as most $600-700 models, with the p/u's being my only problem with this guitar.
Take into consideration the neck dive that the SG is famous for, some hate the guitar for this others, like myself have no problem with this.
The neck profile is realy good on mine, it feals like a MAN sizes wizard neck(not near as thin, but the width). Getting to the upper frets is super easy aswell.
Try it first if you can, cause you may not like it at all, or you may love it.

It comes stock with a nice TOM bridge and Grover Romantic style tuners
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#12
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I would look for the Tony Iommi sig, possible the best SG epiphone have ever made.


+1 for the Iommi! I have one and it's a great guitar!
No pickup swap necessary as it comes with the same pups as the Gibson Iommi sig model and they sound awesome!
One gripe you'll hear is their neck heavy and tend to nose dive but a decent leather strap sorts that out a treat!
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#13
good guitars, but not the very best instrument for the money.

they are well built and relatively well-spec'd for the money, and there is certainly nothing wrong with a g-400. with a swap to better pickups, they can become budget beasts. however, it is possible to get a better guitar for the money, though it does involve some fairly serious searching to do so.
#14
Save up for a Prophecy dude. You won't be dissapointed. I own one. They feel quite different to standard Epiphone models. The thin neck profile and flat fingerboard make the guitars feel like LTD's.

The Prophecy Futura and EM2 are the ones with Floyd's. There should totally be a Flying V Prophecy. That would be sexy.

The G400's are good guitars for the money. They're the perfect platform for modding. I also like the striping of the grain on the bodies. They look less like children's toys that way.
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#15
Thanks everybody, I finally made my decision and decided to buy it, I got it at a very good price too.

So far I like it a lot. The neck is actually thinner than my Squier Stratocaster and I find it easier and smoother to play, getting to higher frets is MUCH easier (it was painful on my squier, literally... also loving that 22nd fret). The sound is much much better than my Squier, clean tone feels warmer, and distorted feels heavier. There's not a HUGE difference though (but as I keep reading everywhere, a quick pickup change and It will get even better! ). Also yeah, the neck is pretty heavy and tends to nose dive, it makes me commit mistakes every now and then when playing while standing, but it's not that bad though... I thought it would be heavier (people scared me, and when I tried it for the first time I forgot to play it standing up) I'll be getting a good leather strap soon to solve this. The tuning pegs are better, my Squier couldn't stay tuned for more than 2 hours, and I really really like the looks and the finish, it's beautiful. Independent volume for each pickup is great too.

About the pickups... I'm not really sure If I want EMG's now, they're nice and all but I think I'm looking for something more versatile. I like to play metal, mainly thrash and heavy (Metallica, Megadeth, Maiden, Priest, etc) but also a lot of other genres going from classic rock (Zeppelin, Pink floyd) to hard rock and others (Soundgarden, Tool, A perfect circle, Rage against the machine, etc)... so maybe they weren't what I was looking for. Right now i'm looking at Seymour Duncan Invader SH-8, but any recommendations would be awesome, because I'm kind of clueless when it comes to pickups. Thanks!
#16
The G400s look really nice, but that's as far as good things about them go. They're terrible guitars (but then, what low end Epis aren't?). You can do much better for the price.

For instance, Gibson SG Specials go used for $400 all day long, if you want an SG. For that price, might as well get the "real" thing.
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#17
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Thanks everybody, I finally made my decision and decided to buy it, I got it at a very good price too.

So far I like it a lot. The neck is actually thinner than my Squier Stratocaster and I find it easier and smoother to play, getting to higher frets is MUCH easier (it was painful on my squier, literally... also loving that 22nd fret). The sound is much much better than my Squier, clean tone feels warmer, and distorted feels heavier. There's not a HUGE difference though (but as I keep reading everywhere, a quick pickup change and It will get even better! ). Also yeah, the neck is pretty heavy and tends to nose dive, it makes me commit mistakes every now and then when playing while standing, but it's not that bad though... I thought it would be heavier (people scared me, and when I tried it for the first time I forgot to play it standing up) I'll be getting a good leather strap soon to solve this. The tuning pegs are better, my Squier couldn't stay tuned for more than 2 hours, and I really really like the looks and the finish, it's beautiful. Independent volume for each pickup is great too.

About the pickups... I'm not really sure If I want EMG's now, they're nice and all but I think I'm looking for something more versatile. I like to play metal, mainly thrash and heavy (Metallica, Megadeth, Maiden, Priest, etc) but also a lot of other genres going from classic rock (Zeppelin, Pink floyd) to hard rock and others (Soundgarden, Tool, A perfect circle, Rage against the machine, etc)... so maybe they weren't what I was looking for. Right now i'm looking at Seymour Duncan Invader SH-8, but any recommendations would be awesome, because I'm kind of clueless when it comes to pickups. Thanks!



I would avoid Invaders if you want versitility at all costs. They're also muddy as hell in mahogany guitars. I would only suggest them if you where a metal player that wanted to fatten up the tone of a really bright sounding guitar (and i mean REALLY bright). If you want versitile, go for a Duncan JB in the bridge and a '59 in the neck. They're a lot better voiced and not as hot so their versitility isn't comprimised
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#18
I have a Duncan SH-4 in my bridge and it makes the G-400 a monster.
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#19
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I would avoid Invaders if you want versitility at all costs. They're also muddy as hell in mahogany guitars. I would only suggest them if you where a metal player that wanted to fatten up the tone of a really bright sounding guitar (and i mean REALLY bright). If you want versitile, go for a Duncan JB in the bridge and a '59 in the neck. They're a lot better voiced and not as hot so their versitility isn't comprimised


Hey thanks, I'll look for those. And yeah I was watching some videos of the Invaders a little earlier and they were muddy as hell as you said. I thought it may be the settings or the amp, guess I was wrong. As you see I don't know much about p/u's so I'm open to as many recommendations as possible.
#20
im not the biggest fan. borrowed my cousins that was basically new (she bought it but doest play it). set it up, and came from the factory with a low fret. i cant get those pickups to sound good, and it feels weird to hold. it has a nice neck though.....thats about it.


*EDIT* oh about the Pickups recomendation, gotta back seymour duncan jb for the neck and sh-8 is also good
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#21
I thought the ones I played were nice. I was actually very disappointed with the gibson faded sg's I tried. I'd probably get one if I were in the market for an SG. Pickup swap does a world of difference, but that's just a given with stock epiphones.
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#22
Make sure you try them out though before you buy, I bought one secondhand, didnt try it out too much when I got it, brought it home, and the neck just didnt feel right, I needed the action high as a kite in order for there to be no buzz. Took it to a shop, they said almost every fret above the 12th needed replaced, would have cost more to do that than I paid for the thing. It sounded good, great tone, light, but just be sure you give it a really good look over before you buy.

Also, its pretty neck heavy so a leather strap is a must or you will be holding it up the whole time you are playing.