#1
Guitar is an inexpensive basswood Ibanez GRG. Going through a Line 6 POD. And VST ampsims. Mainly a recording instrument, a LITTLE bit of gigging maybe.

Currently, it has a D Sonic/Air Norton in it, I installed them when I was in my John Petrucci phase, LOL. Did quite a nice job, now I want to try out the active tone, because I'm in the djent phase

Yeah I was going for a 7 string but then there is NO 7 with the EXACT specs that I want, so I decided to wait, increase my budget, and wait for the model with MY EXACT SPECS t come out, then buy the 7.


In the meantime I'll be playing in Drop C, stuff like this: http://soundcloud.com/cowsonthebeach/old-djenty-riff-re-mixed

Will, say, an EMG 81/60 combo do me any good?

#2
i personally like the dimarzios you have better than emgs haha
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#4
Quote by TubeAmp89
Guitar is an inexpensive basswood Ibanez GRG. Going through a Line 6 POD. And VST ampsims. Mainly a recording instrument, a LITTLE bit of gigging maybe.

Currently, it has a D Sonic/Air Norton in it, I installed them when I was in my John Petrucci phase, LOL. Did quite a nice job, now I want to try out the active tone, because I'm in the djent phase

Yeah I was going for a 7 string but then there is NO 7 with the EXACT specs that I want, so I decided to wait, increase my budget, and wait for the model with MY EXACT SPECS t come out, then buy the 7.


In the meantime I'll be playing in Drop C, stuff like this: http://soundcloud.com/cowsonthebeach/old-djenty-riff-re-mixed

Will, say, an EMG 81/60 combo do me any good?



Emgs 81/60 is a perfext upgrade for any guitar. I have two guitars set up with emg 81/85s.

If your on a budget try Dragonfire 81/75 style active pickups. they have a tight low end as where an emg has tight mids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iL1R92T1Gs

thats a video i made 2 years ago showing the tones of dragonfires and emgs
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Quote by mikevmpr3
Emgs 81/60 is a perfext upgrade for any guitar. I have two guitars set up with emg 81/85s.

If your on a budget try Dragonfire 81/75 style active pickups. they have a tight low end as where an emg has tight mids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iL1R92T1Gs

thats a video i made 2 years ago showing the tones of dragonfires and emgs



Dude thanks for the video, that sounds quite nice!
#6
Quote by TubeAmp89
Dude thanks for the video, that sounds quite nice!


your welcome =D
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#7
To the guys who posted above: Yeah I know a lot of you prefer passives and so do I, but I want to see how actives work for djenting. So asking for a recommendation. Preferably a pickup that doesn't rely on the wood that much for tone, it's a GRG, remember?
#8
TBH I would take your $200 and keep saving and go and buy a decent 2nd hand LTD or something mate.

No point putting that much money into a GRG. I wouldnt have even bothered putting the Dimarzios in it.

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#9
True, back then I was young and naive lol. BUT it does sound a lot better than it did stock.
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Quote by Tom 1.0
TBH I would take your $200 and keep saving and go and buy a decent 2nd hand LTD or something mate.

No point putting that much money into a GRG. I wouldnt have even bothered putting the Dimarzios in it.


eff that. I got the ltd viper100fm for 245 USD with stock pickups. they sound HORRIBLE, i could not find a single happy medium with either the bridge or the neck pickups and they are MUDDY. i raised the bridge pup almost touching the string trying to get maximum output but nothing worked. and esp/ltds are known for metal no? Not to mention they couldnt pinch harmonic for shit. eventually i swapped out for... whaddaya know, emg 81 85, now is one of my fav guitars.
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Boss TU-2
Boss- CS 2
BBE- Green SCREAMER
ESP,LTD MH- 250 NT ,
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Quote by mikevmpr3
eff that. I got the ltd viper100fm for 245 USD with stock pickups. they sound HORRIBLE, i could not find a single happy medium with either the bridge or the neck pickups and they are MUDDY. i raised the bridge pup almost touching the string trying to get maximum output but nothing worked. and esp/ltds are known for metal no? Not to mention they couldnt pinch harmonic for shit. eventually i swapped out for... whaddaya know, emg 81 85, now is one of my fav guitars.


bottom line is , there is no use buying a whole new guitar for shit tone, when you can play a guitar you're used to playing, and further enjoy it with an upgrade.
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ESP,LTD MH- 250 NT ,
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#12
Edit button dude, use it.

100 series LTDs are still much better quality that GRGs. Though if you couldnt do Pinch Harmonics, well thats a technique issue really. EMGs will not make his GRG suddenly sound amazing, they will make it sound better, but not incredible.

A GRG is like what $100? So it just seems to be false economy to put $200 worth of pups into it. GRGs are no better than starter guitars, your just wasting money by upgrading them, there is nothing about a GRG that is good or solidly built. They arent guitars that you could gig every week or that will last you a very long time.

The best thing about his one is if he buys a nicer guitar he already has some great pups lying around.

Quote by TubeAmp89
True, back then I was young and naive lol. BUT it does sound a lot better than it did stock.


I know the feeling mate, but those Dimarzios would be great for Djent mate, if you look at the Djent bands, they all use passive pups, I think Misha uses BKPs and did use alot of Dimarzios back in the day

I'm in the process of replacing my 81/60 combo with a BKP set of Coldsweats. EMGs arent that "tight" IMO its a much your technique as your gear.

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Last edited by Tom 1.0 at May 20, 2011,
#13
It's a $250 GRG actually

But yeah, I heard that actives tend to mask the negative effects of poor wood in the tone. And I've been hearing that consistently. Hence, I asked.
#14
I tend to value things on 2nd hand value, sorry

They do to an extent, but not as much as people make out they do. If you have $200 saved up, keep saving and see what the 2nd hand market has available to you, after all, you have got a set of great pups to upgrade something nicer with when you get it.

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2004 EBMM JP6
2016 SE Holcolmb
#15
Quote by Tom 1.0
Edit button dude, use it.

100 series LTDs are still much better quality that GRGs. Though if you couldnt do Pinch Harmonics, well thats a technique issue really. EMGs will not make his GRG suddenly sound amazing, they will make it sound better, but not incredible.

A GRG is like what $100? So it just seems to be false economy to put $200 worth of pups into it. GRGs are no better than starter guitars, your just wasting money by upgrading them, there is nothing about a GRG that is good or solidly built. They arent guitars that you could gig every week or that will last you a very long time.

The best thing about his one is if he buys a nicer guitar he already has some great pups lying around.


I know the feeling mate, but those Dimarzios would be great for Djent mate, if you look at the Djent bands, they all use passive pups, I think Misha uses BKPs and did use alot of Dimarzios back in the day

I'm in the process of replacing my 81/60 combo with a BKP set of Coldsweats. EMGs arent that "tight" IMO its a much your technique as your gear.


hahah technique issue really, bite me dude really i own both a "jewelblue" finish Gio rg, and the ltd. the gio is a shredders dream come true. your an ispiration to find another ltd with stock pups just to make a comparison. and as far as im concerned active pickups are generally appointed more towards those with a hardon for distortion, just b/c of its high output.
hence why i use em \m/
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Last edited by mikevmpr3 at May 20, 2011,
#16
Quote by TubeAmp89
It's a $250 GRG actually

But yeah, I heard that actives tend to mask the negative effects of poor wood in the tone. And I've been hearing that consistently. Hence, I asked.


If for whatever inexplicable reason you want to keep your starter guitar and want to lose the bad tonewood sound, the EMG route is definitely viable. But to upgrade a starter guitar for the sake of upgrading, you might as well save money for something better.
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#17
Actually, I've been saving up for a great seven string. I have about $700 now, if I can increase it to about 1200-ish, I have some AMAZING options, I'm thinking Carvin Right now there are no guitars in my budget that give me EXACTLY what I want. Plus I'm in India so the used market is terrible, you can find nothing here. Yeah, I guess it makes sense to wait. But the wait is going to be LOOOOOONG Which is why I wanted to get actives for my Ibby. But if the tone isn't going to be affected as much, I might as well let it go, and make do...