#1
Well which is better?

Because as far as I know the MG series replaced the Valvestates, but lots of people says mg's are shit and I'm not exactly disagreeing with them!

So did Marshall replace the valvestates with a worse line of amps?

In terms of tone and build quality/longevity please!
#3
Quote by coolstoryangus
mgs didnt replace the valvestates the valvestates where slightly higher end

they are both gash.


http://www.blamepro.com/mar/vs.htm

Oh okay but according to that link mg's replaced valvestates, but anyone could have wrote it.
#4
Quote by coolstoryangus
mgs didnt replace the valvestates the valvestates where slightly higher end

they are both gash.

exactly this

Quote by Ma-hog!
http://www.blamepro.com/mar/vs.htm

Oh okay but according to that link mg's replaced valvestates, but anyone could have wrote it.

its wrong


though if i had to choose between them and only them, i'd give up the guitar for good tbh. but if someone else said it's between them and only them then valvestate... but not by much at all.
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#5
Quote by Dempsey68
exactly this


its wrong


though if i had to choose between them and only them, i'd give up the guitar for good tbh. but if someone else said it's between them and only them then valvestate... but not by much at all.


Well thanks you guys are saving me a lot of hassle, any alternatives to those two?
#6
budget? and music style?
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#7
Quote by Dempsey68
budget? and music style?


300euro, hard rock and 80's shred maybe a bit of metal

I just realised my last post probably sounded sarcastic but it was genuine, promise!
#9
Marshall MG101FX or Marshall MA50C. I would personally go for the MA50C, even if it cost me more
#10
Quote by Naruto00121
Marshall MG101FX or Marshall MA50C. I would personally go for the MA50C, even if it cost me more

dude, nobody deserves an MG being forced upon them, no matter how much it costs and how many extras it has.

edit: the MA50C is 450 euro not quite close to his 300 budget, also it's a bit much... nobody needs that for home use. i barely use half of my VT50's 50 watt power at home.
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#12
yea and marshall wouldn't be the best option for the genres he wants to play anyway.

i'm not sure of prices by you TS.

the local guys should be able to better rec what is decent by you.
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#13
Picking between an MG and a Valvestate is like trying to decide which foot you're going to stick under a moving truck. The correct decision is neither.
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#14
Quote by Cathbard
Picking between an MG and a Valvestate is like trying to decide which foot you're going to stick under a moving truck. The correct decision is neither.


+1

And why not just leave marshall altogether and get a peavey vypyr30? modelling technology has improved a lot these days and the vypyr's very versatile will handle all the genres you listed
#16
If you want it to be new, look into this one:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/bugera_v22.htm
You'll probably want something to boost it though, like a Digitech Bad Monkey or a Boss SD1.

Look for any of these used, the H&K especially is excellent value in Europe:
http://www.musicstore.de/en_EN/GBP/Hughes-Kettner-Edition-Tube-25th-Combo-Limited-Edition/art-GIT0015211-000
http://www.thomann.de/gb/jet_city_amplification_112rc.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_valve_king_112_gitarrencombo.htm
#17
I can speak up for the first generation valvestates, and they were fantastic. Up until the AVTs, they were built in the UK, after that they were built in China (although some AVTs were built in China). So that's the obvious difference in quality.

MGs are okay if you don't care for your tone though.
#18
if you wanna go modelling amp, the vox VT40+ is a decent amp too, can't get "teh br00tz" but 80's stuff it could get
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#19
two schools of thought on this...

1) the mg is worse because it sounds worse

2) the valvestate is worse because, although it sounds marginally better than the MG, it's still rubbish, and costs a lot more.

Third school is cathbard's school

Quote by Cathbard
Picking between an MG and a Valvestate is like trying to decide which foot you're going to stick under a moving truck. The correct decision is neither.


+1

Quote by Banana Wedgie
I can speak up for the first generation valvestates, and they were fantastic. Up until the AVTs, they were built in the UK, after that they were built in China (although some AVTs were built in China). So that's the obvious difference in quality.


the first valvestates might have been good (i haven't tried them), but my avt was made in the UK (as far as i recall), and it was still terrible. Being made in the UK is no guarantee it'll be any good, in other words.
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