#1
I've been debating whether to get a Mexican Fender Telecaster or a Fender Jaguar Classic Player. I'm having a little trouble narrowing the pick, so I'm looking for a few options.

I'm going to be running it through an DS-1 & OD-3 alot, and I heard the tele isn't great at distortion. However, I have heard that it is more versatile, and you can play multiple sounds with the Tele.

Think of Nirvana and Dinosaur Jr. Those are my two favorites, and both used a Jaguar. However, neither used Telecasters that much. So any opinions on the guitars?


Appreciate the help.
#2
Those aren't exactly punk, but the jaguar would probably suit you best. Try it first thigh. You might not like shortscales.
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#4
Yeah I'd think a Tele would give you a bigger range, but personally love Jaguars and think that if you are gonna try looking for different sounds you'd be able to if you put your mind to it so that'd be my choice.
#5
You can get an MIM Telecaster Deluxe with two humbucker pickups that will do distortion just fine. Before you go for a Jag try playing some of those cramped seventh and nine chords up above the tenth fret and see if your fingers will fit. I know I can't play rhythm with barre chords on short scales.
#6
You can do punk rock on anything. That's the beauty of punk rock

For the sound you're looking for though, a Jaguar would better match it than a Tele. A Tele would give you more versatility overall, so it's a matter of how specialized for your genre you want the guitar to be.
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#7
a tele with humbuckers would be a far better bet. depending on your amp, a tele with single coils could do a decent punk sound. however, a single coil loaded tele is really better suited to country, blues, jazz, classic rock etc. a humbucker loaded tele will give you better distorted sounds while still sounding tele-ish
#8
If you want a Tele, be sure it has humbuckers (or even P90s) and it will be nice for what you wanna play.

Budget?
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#10
For those bands, a Jaguar with humbuckers.
For anything else except maybe surf, Tele.
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#12
comparing a tele and a jaguar is like comparing apples and oranges.

the jaguar has a shorter scale length which means the frets will be closer together which can be helpful for playing awkward chord voicings and such, but the strings will feel a lot looser so you'd probably want a heavier string gauge.

in terms of sound, telecasters no good at distortion!?!? which idiot told you that? telecasters sound great with distortion - they can have a surprisingly fat distorted tone, very tight and focussed with a punchy bottom end with an aggressive bite in the treble register, and that's part of the reason they are more versatile - because they actually handle distortion extremely well. jaguars on the other hand are a bit strange with distortion, an aquired taste, because the tone is a little on the thin side you'll get a very sharp, raspy tone with a lot of edge, and if you're really using a lot of gain it will get quite messy and dissonant because you'll start to hear the sympathetic resonance of the strings behind the bridge. but if you're playing punk, that might be a desirable thing - you might not be looking for the "nicest" tone you can get - sometimes nasty tones can work well in punk.
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#13
If you can play it comfortably, jag. Otherwise tele.
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If you want a Tele, be sure it has humbuckers (or even P90s) and it will be nice for what you wanna play.

Budget?


I don't really have one. The more money it is, the longer it takes to get it. Thats why I'm looking at under $800 and looking at Mexican Teles as of now.
#15
Have you looked at the Fender Blacktop series? Just spitballing here, but there is both a HH Tele and a HH Jag for a fairly low price.
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#16
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Have you looked at the Fender Blacktop series? Just spitballing here, but there is both a HH Tele and a HH Jag for a fairly low price.


Yeah, but the hardware isn't that good.
#17
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Yeah, but the hardware isn't that good.

Just wondering.

I want to say Telecaster, because I'm not entirely sure that you'd get the sounds you want out of the CP Jaguar, but I'm not so sure about the Telecaster either. I know Kurt Cobain used all sorts of Fenders, it'd have to depend on the album/song for what guitar I'd recommend. J Mascis (of Dinosaur Jr, for anyone that doesn't know), however, is known more for his Jazzmaster (he even had a signature model a few years back), which is an incredibly different animal than the Jaguar. So yeah...
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#18
If you liek short scales, the Jaguar. If you like regular scales, the Tele. That's all there is in it. They sound similar enough that neither of them is better or worse than the other at any kind of tone. The scale length is the deciding factor.

And a DS-1 and OD-3 sounds like an awful mix. Don't mix an overdrive with a distortion pedal, that's just terrible.
#19
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I don't really have one. The more money it is, the longer it takes to get it. Thats why I'm looking at under $800 and looking at Mexican Teles as of now.


Ok, you can get very nice guitars under $800. For a Tele, I'd recommend this one:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Classic-Series-72-Telecaster-Deluxe-Electric-Guitar?sku=511141

As for jaguars, if you want a tremolo, you can get this:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Classic-Player-Jaguar-Special-HH-Electric-Guitar?sku=518749

Or, if you don't want one, you can get this:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Jaguar-HH-Electric-Guitar?sku=511323

Even if you don't like all the silly controls in the Jaguars, you can get this (plus it's way cheaper):

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Blackout-Jaguar-HH-Electric-Guitar?sku=H61570
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#20
I don't think you can go wrong with either honestly. They'd both do the trick and well.
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#21
Question:
Three of the bands that started punk -- The Clash, The Damned, The Stranglers -- what's one thing they have in common?
Answer:
the Telecaster

The sound of punk is the Telecaster.
And you don't need silly DS-1 or OD-3 pedals. Just play a Telecaster loud and you have a punk sound.

You might even want to check out one of these: the Joe Strummer Telecaster. Incredible guitar.

#22
i say the classip player jag. i have it (but the HH version)a nd it rocks
#23
I have a jag, and recently bought myself a new American Deluxe Strat.
Jag:
Short scale, fits my small hands better
Lots of buttons and knobs, buttons are fun
Unique tone, has a presence that can push right through

If the neck has the original curve on it can make bending up high a biatch, I ended up getting the original bridge replaced with a roller bridge and the neck sanded down to be flatter. I also had the electronics rewired, and a seymour duncan little 59' single coil humbucker put in at the bottom.

Tele:
Better neck at the bottom, static bridge makes it better for lead.
#24
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Question:
Three of the bands that started punk -- The Clash, The Damned, The Stranglers -- what's one thing they have in common?
Answer:
the Telecaster

The sound of punk is the Telecaster.
And you don't need silly DS-1 or OD-3 pedals. Just play a Telecaster loud and you have a punk sound.

You might even want to check out one of these: the Joe Strummer Telecaster. Incredible guitar.



Yes but if you read his post he actually wants a guitar for alternative rock and grunge by the sounds of it. But agreed, if you want to play punk get a Tele if you want alternative Jaguar classic player special.
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#25
Both a tele and a jaguar will play punk just as well as each other, mainly because the lead work in punk doesn't require much sustain on high bends (where the jaguar will start to fail).