#1
Hey guys, I'm wanting to upgrade my amp as I now know what I am missing in my tone.
I'm looking for a classic tone but with a modern edge to it. That's what I'm missing.

The budget is £700 (hypothetically, once I have the money, I could stretch to 800, maybe)

Willing to go used. (looking at heads here)

I play all types of metal, so it must be versitial and have cleans aswell.

Been looking at

Mesa Boogie- Single Rectifer
Marshall JVM410
Bugera 333XL
Bugera 1990

Any other suggestions let me know, would be very appriciated.
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#2
Mesa Boogie Single Rectifier.

I loved the amp for its value and for the Boogie gain, but without the flub that you usually get from the Dual Recto.

Are you gigging with this?
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#3
Yep, I'm planning to use it for gigging and studio use. Is it loud enough?
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#4
Quote by Fisheth24
Yep, I'm planning to use it for gigging and studio use. Is it loud enough?


50 watts will be plenty loud. If the venue is larger, you can always just mic it up.

You should also consider the JCA50 as well.
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#6
Quote by GS LEAD 5
More than enuogh.

I say Recto or 333.
The JVM is supposed to be fizzy, and the 1990 is not the sound youre after.


Which one sounds better Recto or 333?
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#7
The 333 is a clone of the Peavey XXX. That is a completely different amp from the recto.

At the very basic, the Recto is darker than the XXX. Its not a comparable comparison.
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#8
Classic sound with a modern edge? Marshall Vintage Modern? It's a bit out your price range for the head/ cab but you should be able to get the combo new for that price.
#9
Wouldn't be very good for the stuff I want to play.

Helloween, Sonata Arctica, Blind Guardian, Priest, Maiden, Sabaton, Megadeth, Anthrax, Power Quest etc...

Here's the kinda stuff I play at the moment, excuse the quality of the songs. they are really rough demos and the only one worth playing is Ledgend as it's the one we've written with the current line up.

http://www.reverbnation.com/culloden
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
Last edited by Fisheth24 at May 26, 2011,
#10
Quote by Fisheth24
Wouldn't be very good for the stuff I want to play.

Helloween, Sonata Arctica, Blind Guardian, Priest, Maiden, Sabaton, Megadeth, Anthrax, Power Quest etc...

Ah fair enough. Well, it could do Maiden and possibly Megadeth. If it's worth anything, it's the amp Paul Gilbert uses. But if it doesn't suit you then that's cool, it was just a suggestion as you said classic and modern tone.
#11
Quote by WholeLottaIzzy
Ah fair enough. Well, it could do Maiden and possibly Megadeth. If it's worth anything, it's the amp Paul Gilbert uses. But if it doesn't suit you then that's cool, it was just a suggestion as you said classic and modern tone.


I'll check it out though, Paul gilbert is a fave guitarist of mine.
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#12
Quote by Fisheth24
I'll check it out though, Paul gilbert is a fave guitarist of mine.

To be honest, I didn't like the combo. I plugged in, had a play and couldn't get it sounding good enough to justify dropping £700 on it. The head and cab though, I plugged in and everything I did sounded great. But it is a bit of a one trick pony amp. It's mainly for Guns 'N Roses, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC sort of classic rock.
#13
So not my sort of sound then?
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#14
Quote by WholeLottaIzzy
To be honest, I didn't like the combo. I plugged in, had a play and couldn't get it sounding good enough to justify dropping £700 on it. The head and cab though, I plugged in and everything I did sounded great. But it is a bit of a one trick pony amp. It's mainly for Guns 'N Roses, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC sort of classic rock.


Something sounds strange here... 2 identical amps at identical settings the stack magically sounds better?

I'm gonna have to say that its more likely that you had to have a stack, rather than the stack actually sounding better than the combo.
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Last edited by ragingkitty at May 26, 2011,
#15
I'd hold out till someone sell a Mesa Trem-O-Verb combo within your budget, I see them all the time from £800 - £1200. Arguably the best sounding dual recto ever made and you wont need to fork out for a cab to go with.

I used to own one and would now if I didnt keep blowing the switching relays with my G-Major. 2channnel, Lovely cleans, great blues and crunch sound along with the full on recto vintage/modern high gain channel.

Check it out!
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#16
Quote by ragingkitty
The 333 is a clone of the Peavey XXX. That is a completely different amp from the recto.

At the very basic, the Recto is darker than the XXX. Its not a comparable comparison.


But its got an active EQ......you can do a lot with those

Quote by ragingkitty
Something sounds strange here... 2 identical amps at identical settings the stack magically sounds better?

I'm gonna have to say that its more likely that you had to have a stack, rather than the stack actually sounding better than the combo.



A 412 cab will sound slightly bassier than a 212 combo.
i think
Last edited by GS LEAD 5 at May 26, 2011,
#17
Quote by GS LEAD 5
A 412 cab will sound slightly bassier than a 212 combo.
i think


More thump in the bass, definitely.

More presence, definitely.

However to say that because of these 2 factors, the stack would sound considerably different from the combo. I find that quite a stretch to believe.
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#19
Quote by GS LEAD 5
^Bad tubes in the combo maybe?


Probable.
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