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#1
Taken by itself as an action, is selling addictive drugs to people immoral? Assume that there's no need to feed your family or something and that you aren't involved with violence of any sort.

And no, marijuana/LSD/etc. is not considered addicted drugs. They either have to be highly psychologically addictive or physically addictive. Alcohol is a tricky one so let's just disregard that for the purposes of this discussion.
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#2
Why disregard alcohol? Either selling addictive drugs is wrong or it isn't. Why should alcohol be any different?
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#3
You're an accessory to drug addiction and the negative effects of it. So yes, I'd say it's at least partially wrong as long as you aren't coercing people to start.
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#6
Depends on how educated the people you are selling them to and whether or not you inform them on the negative effects.
#7
Only if you don't provide any means for them to make themselves aware of the risk associated with said drug.
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#8
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Why disregard alcohol? Either selling addictive drugs is wrong or it isn't. Why should alcohol be any different?
Because while it can be extremely addictive, it isn't really a guarantee that someone will get there. If you drink a few beers everyday you're much less likely to become addicted than if you were to inject a modest amount of heroin every day.
#10
If you don't disclose all information about the drugs to the consumer, then yes it is wrong.
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#12
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Yes it is wrong, you make money on possibly ruining peoples lives.

This applies to very large area of subjects.
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#13
Not if you want to make money.
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#15
depends who you sell them to
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#16
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Your business is contingent on ruining peoples lives with addictive drugs. Yes.
Wouldn't they be the ones ruining their lives though? You aren't forcing them to buy it/take it.
#18
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Yes it is wrong, you make money on possibly ruining peoples lives.

gambling is addictive and just as destructive but legal as well.
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Yeah cause your getting them addicted to a drug.

They're getting themselves addicted actually. You would simply be providing them with said drugs.
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Only if you don't provide any means for them to become aware of the risk associated with said drug.


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#21
Yes in my opinion those are the people we should be focusing all our time dealing with. The dealers are the problem, they get people addicted, make lots of money then the addict either gets killed or ends up in prison. Selling addictive drugs is terrible and I think only rape and murder are worse.

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#22
Only if you don't try to help people who are showing signs of addiction and need help.
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#23
I don't think it is. It's like someone asking you to kick them in the nuts then bitching when it hurts. People buying the drugs are well aware of the consequences. Let them destroy themselves.
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People buying the drugs are well aware of the consequences.


Unless they aren't.
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I don't think it is. It's like someone asking you to kick them in the nuts then bitching when it hurts. People buying the drugs are well aware of the consequences. Let them destroy themselves.

Just like those girls who get raped. They all knew it was coming or didn't do enough to prevent it.
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I needs to coddle me some junkies
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Because while it can be extremely addictive, it isn't really a guarantee that someone will get there. If you drink a few beers everyday you're much less likely to become addicted than if you were to inject a modest amount of heroin every day.

so? same with loads of drugs. Where's the line? just exactly how addictive does something have to be for it to be immoral to sell it? Starbucks knowingly provides a drug to addicts thousands of times a day, whereas loads of people do cocaine without ever becoming addicted to it.

I say provide people with knowledge about what they're buying, and let them make their own decisions.
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#29
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#30
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Pharmacies sell oxycodone to people and it is a drug that ruins many lives.

Truth. Except that I work in a pharmacy and we use excessive caution before dispensing oxycodone to customers. We do not fill every prescription for oxycodone we see. We turn down about 95% of all oxycodone prescriptions brought to us. We do not like being taken advantage of. We save our limited supply of painkillers for patients who legitimately need them. Not cracked out assholes who put up a fight and curse at us when we decline their prescription for narcotics (when we can clearly see that either they are fake, or out-of-state). We are trained to be cautious of tactics that are used to deceive techs and pharmacists into dispensing narcotics. Some pharmacies use wise discretion, others don't.

OT: It is wrong to sell addictive drugs to somebody who is clearly not of sound mind. it is not wrong to sell them to people who are in control and are not a threat to society or their loved ones. That being said, it's hard to tell who is of sound mind and who isn't. Some folks are great actors. Depends on every situation I guess...
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#33
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Right and wrong are subjective. It's right with some people, wrong to others.


This is truly the only answer here.
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#34
Are ya'll on crack right now? The media pushes that Drugs are bad and harmful all the time. Do people think they are getting lied to? "I just saw an anti cocaine advert, surely it isn't that bad, I think I'll buy some and to find out" If someone tries drugs with absolutely knowledge of said drug then you are a moron.

Also BladeSlinger are you drunk? I see no connection between what I said and rape.

EDIT: By ya'll I meant the 2 people who disagreed with what I said without reason. Others have posted stuff I agree with.
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Pharmaceutical industry does it every day.

Yes, and I'll have you know we're evil bastards who don't care for the well-being of our communities too.
#36
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so? same with loads of drugs. Where's the line? just exactly how addictive does something have to be for it to be immoral to sell it? Starbucks knowingly provides a drug to addicts thousands of times a day, whereas loads of people do cocaine without ever becoming addicted to it.

I say provide people with knowledge about what they're buying, and let them make their own decisions.

Coffee won't kill me and I'm not going to rob innocent people just to be able to afford it.
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Do people think they are getting lied to?

Is that a serious question?
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#38
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Are ya'll on crack right now? The media pushes that Drugs are bad and harmful all the time. Do people think they are getting lied to? "I just saw an anti cocaine advert, surely it isn't that bad, I think I'll buy some and to find out" If someone tries drugs with absolutely knowledge of said drug then you are a moron.

Also BladeSlinger are you drunk? I see no connection between what I said and rape.

EDIT: By ya'll I meant the 2 people who disagreed with what I said without reason. Others have posted stuff I agree with.

Brash statements will get you nowhere.

You would be amazed at how many people aren't educated on drugs. I considered myself to have known a lot and I ended up learning way more in my college Health class. The media essentially says "Drugs are bad mmkay" and never elaborates why in a way that is taken serious. A lot of people don't realize the seriousness and unpredictability of many drugs like cocaine. One person can do it often without getting too bad but another could die on their first line.

You also don't seem to realize that many people who do drugs aren't mentally healthy to where they'll make informed decisions. Peer pressure or stress could drive them to try it once and that's all they need to get addicted.

Your view that everyone knows about it so it's their fault is the same as the people who think rape victims don't deserve sympathy because they should have avoided that situation. It's pure ignorance.
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Are ya'll on crack right now? The media pushes that Drugs are bad and harmful all the time. Do people think they are getting lied to? "I just saw an anti cocaine advert, surely it isn't that bad, I think I'll buy some and to find out"

This is adorable.

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#40
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Brash statements will get you nowhere.

You would be amazed at how many people aren't educated on drugs. I considered myself to have known a lot and I ended up learning way more in my college Health class. The media essentially says "Drugs are bad mmkay" and never elaborates why in a way that is taken serious. A lot of people don't realize the seriousness and unpredictability of many drugs like cocaine. One person can do it often without getting too bad but another could die on their first line.

You also don't seem to realize that many people who do drugs aren't mentally healthy to where they'll make informed decisions. Peer pressure or stress could drive them to try it once and that's all they need to get addicted.

Your view that everyone knows about it so it's their fault is the same as the people who think rape victims don't deserve sympathy because they should have avoided that situation. It's pure ignorance.

I'm almost positive that dude was trolling.
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