#1
I'm considering getting a Jackson DK2 Dinky and I've read that it comes with this Licensed Floyd Rose. I'm also looking at some LTDs that have a Floyd Rose Special.

How good is the JT580, and is it better or worse than the FRS? Also, what does "low profile" mean, is it very different from normal tremolos?
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#2
it's not great. Or at least, depending on who you listen to, it's either "not great" or "not bad for a licensed". Personally, I haven't liked the ones I've tried (in shops). I thought they weren't very responsive, in the way that good double-locking trems are.

low profile just means that the fine tuners are more out of the way, the string clamps are in front of the fine tuners (so they don't stick up in the air where you can catch your sleeve on them), and the whole trem just sits down lower into the guitar's body.
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They're okay for a LFR though I'd rather have a Gotoh or a Schaller LFR.
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maybe.

from what i hear, it's a direct swap. however, you hear a lot of things on the internet which later turn out not ti be true- so check fir yourself first.
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#6
I have a Jackson Dinky with a JT580 LFR. The thing never goes out of tune.

And yes - it's a direct swap if you wanna swap it out for an OFR.
#7
I've been reading some comments on youtube and there's people who say it's absolute rubbish and others say it's nice...is it one of those hit or miss things?

And would you say it's better or at least not worse than the Floyd Rose Special?
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JT580s... They're decent but not great. Probably about the same level as the FRS, maybe a little lower.
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The best word I can use to describe it is clunky. It's functional, it's just not particualarly smooth or, like Dave says, responsive. If you compare it with something like an Ibanez Lo Pro Edge there really isn't a comparison to make, they're world's apart.
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^ yeah clunky is exactly the word I'd have used, had I thought of it. my kramer licensed trem is similar.

I mean... ok, so it stays in tune. But I dunno about anyone else, but I'm not getting a floyd so the guitar stays in tune- I'm getting a floyd so I can do crazy floyd tricks and ALSO stay in tune. if the trem's so clunky you can't do the tricks (anyone with a jt580lp is welcome to post a clip of theirs getting some nice flutter/gargle), there's not much point, if you ask me. you have all the added headaches of having a floyd with almost none of the benefits (staying in tune being the only one I can think of, and if you're not using the trem you could get similar tuning stability with locking tuners)...

I mean, all the jt580 fanboys (the edge III fanboys do the same) act like anyone who doesn't like them is a hater and just jumping on the bandwagon... I dunno. Maybe some are like that. But I'd really like to know how many of the fans of those sub-par (IMO) trems have spent any time with a quality locking trem (gotoh, schaller, OFR, edge etc.), and more's the point spent time doing those crazy 80s tricks on them. Because to me, like Mark said, there's no comparison.
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well i mean i'm guessing it's not amazing either. i mean (personally) i'd rather have a japanese-made jackson than a ltd. But i'd probably rather have the trem on the ltd (i say that having not tried the special, but supposedly it's an frt-1000 without the brass sustain block and steel saddles, and i have tried the frt).
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So I better get the LTD with the Floyd Rose Special then


Hold on there! Don't base your entire decision here on the fact that the JT580LP isn't the greatest trem system ever.

I've got one, and I can agree with what's been said. It's solid, and it stays in tune really well, but it's also fairly stiff.

Now, what that means is that the cool tricks like fluttering tend to be beyond it, it's just not responsive enough. But other than that, it works fine. You can still do all the dives and pull ups, just don't expect the fluttery stuff.

The biggest pitfall of LFRs is not staying in tune. That's the reason to avoid a guitar with one of the offending models. But the JT580LP doesn't have that problem.

In general the DK2s are great guitars. I'd take one over a LTD any day, but take that with a pinch of salt because I am a confessed Jackson fanatic.