#1
so i use a boss ns-2 noise suppresor with my 5150

when i play lead it causes the bass strings to start slightly trembling, enough to cause noise that the noise suppresor does not suppress.

when i play notes on top of it, it mostly subsides so that that my leads sound clear, but not as clear as they would if that vibration of the bass strings wasnt there.

it does this no matter how slow and clanly i play, the bass strings are making noise because the sound waves from my playing are causing them to slightly vibrate.

how do you guys deal with this problem??
for you gigging guys out there playing yngwie malmsteen style stuff i'm sure you can relate.

is this issue just part of having a big loud high gain rig and unavoidable?

thanks alot
#2
Mute the strings you're not playing with your palm? Don't face your amp while playing? I don't think I fully understand exactly what the problem is, but that's my interpretation and my suggestion for a solution *shrug*
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Learn to mute your strings. It has nothing to do with anything but your technique.
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Learn to mute your strings. It has nothing to do with anything but your technique.

+1

But no doubt somebody will suggest you buy a Decimator.
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+1

But no doubt somebody will suggest you buy a Decimator.



ok lol, well i'm trying to say that i am not playing sloppy at all. no matter how slowly or how cleanly i play it still does this. on a partially related note, technique wise i float my picking hand, so it does not contact any part of the guitar.

i'm basically getting slight feedback during my lead playing
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ok lol, well i'm trying to say that i am not playing sloppy at all. no matter how slowly or how cleanly i play it still does this. on a partially related note, technique wise i float my picking hand, so it does not contact any part of the guitar.

i'm basically getting slight feedback during my lead playing

And there's your problem. You have to use different techniques when playing through a loud amp than you do playing an acoustic guitar. You have to be ready to mute anything you don't want to make a sound.
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And there's your problem. You have to use different techniques when playing through a loud amp than you do playing an acoustic guitar. You have to be ready to mute anything you don't want to make a sound.



dude floating and not anchoring is considered good technique. i know that there are lots of famous metal guitarists who float.
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Yea, but they still mute their strings with their left hands at the very least.
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#10
Unwanted strings are vibrating because you aren't muting the inappropriate strings. THAT is your problem and everybody is telling you the same thing. If want to use classical techniques you're going to have to adapt so you can mute what you have to. If you don't mute a string when playing at high volume it will make a noise - there's no way around that, it's something we all have to deal with. If you want to keep your hand off the guitar you're going to have to use your fingertips to mute those strings.
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#11
You need to learn to mute with your left hand (and a bit with your right). Sometimes I'll put my pointer finger up like I'm doing a barre chord when I'm only really fretting one note with another finger. I know that's impossible to do at all times, but it's just one of the little naunces I do subconsciously so I don't have anything ringing.
#12
update:

i bought a decimator so hopefully that willl help with the problem.
it will arive in about a week

thanks for the tip ignite
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Quote by vincelombard
vibration of the bass strings wasnt there.

it does this no matter how slow and clanly i play, the bass strings are making noise because the sound waves from my playing are causing them to slightly vibrate.

how do you guys deal with this problem??



Maybe try using guitar strings


but seriously, you got your answer. A big part of playing electric guitar is muting stings. It has nothing to do with anchoring or not.
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dude floating and not anchoring is considered good technique. i know that there are lots of famous metal guitarists who float.
this is awesome. you are preaching about good technique whilst asking about which noise suppressor you need to cover up errant noises caused by this good technique.

edit: it's funny that you should bring up Yngwie Malmsteen, because he actually anchors his hand at his bridge to mute strings (I know this because it is something I picked up from watching one of his demos). This is not bad technique and I have no idea where you got it in your head that it is.
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yeah.

i've noticed for a while now that there's a whole cult of internet players who seem to think anchoring is bad technique. Now I'm no steve vai, but I don't really see what the problem is. the technique's there to improve your playing, not the other way round. If stuff obviously sound bad even though you're using "good" technique, then change that technique.
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yeah.

i've noticed for a while now that there's a whole cult of internet players who seem to think anchoring is bad technique. Now I'm no steve vai, but I don't really see what the problem is. the technique's there to improve your playing, not the other way round. If stuff obviously sound bad even though you're using "good" technique, then change that technique.


I find its a bit of a hold-over from past classical training or classical teachers who would spit in your eye for attempting to play any guitar other than a nylon string guitar.
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Did this guy really just buy a decimator for a technique issue due to a joke made in the thread?
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^ Sounds like it.
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This thread should be moved to the guitar techniques forum.
Mainly so the techniqueheads can laugh at it.
True story.
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you need a gretsch. that's how you mute without using technique.
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anyone who thinks there is 'proper technique' and 'bad technique' is stupid. any thing can be used to make great music, be it anchoring, not anchoring or using a wrench as a slide.
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anyone who thinks there is 'proper technique' and 'bad technique' is stupid. any thing can be used to make great music, be it anchoring, not anchoring or using a wrench as a slide.
Well, to a point. In this case, what TS is doing could be considered "bad technique" when playing high gain. Basically, different techniques work better for different settings.
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anyone who thinks there is 'proper technique' and 'bad technique' is stupid. any thing can be used to make great music, be it anchoring, not anchoring or using a wrench as a slide.

If your technique produces unwanted results then it is bad technique.
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Feel free to express yours so I can make an informed judgement about how stupid you are.
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update:

i bought a decimator so hopefully that willl help with the problem.
it will arive in about a week

thanks for the tip ignite


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I find its a bit of a hold-over from past classical training or classical teachers who would spit in your eye for attempting to play any guitar other than a nylon string guitar.


ugh
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ugh


What?

I've seen them... I even know one.

The dude can go like 180bpm doing triplets with his four frakking fingers... going all mental like Django... but gets all fired up and pissed off when someone suggest that he might be better on an electric.
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What?

I've seen them... I even know one.

The dude can go like 180bpm doing triplets with his four frakking fingers... going all mental like Django... but gets all fired up and pissed off when someone suggest that he might be better on an electric.


yeah i meant i disagreed with them, and i agree with you. i mean fair enough if it works on nylon string acoustics, but if you're playing brootz you're probably not playing a nylon string acoustic.

I mean I'm guessing you use different technique to ride a bicycle than you do to ride a motorbike...
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yeah i meant i disagreed with them, and i agree with you. i mean fair enough if it works on nylon string acoustics, but if you're playing brootz you're probably not playing a nylon string acoustic.

I mean I'm guessing you use different technique to ride a bicycle than you do to ride a motorbike...


Ah yeah sorry Dave... haha though you have to admit... your post was... erm... vague... to say the least.
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yeah i was gonna type some stuff out and then couldn't be assed. had to do it anyway. that always happens when i'm lazy

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