Girls strip 11 year old boy and post on youtube. Only get misdemeanor battery charges

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#1
Saw this on reddit just now, and some of the comments really got me thinking...

there really is a HUGE double standard on legal action for males and females

here is the article and video: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-06-01/Online-video-shows-Fort-Myers-boy-being-bullied

and here are the comments on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/hr3pc/girls_strip_11_year_old_boy_and_post_on_youtube/

here is the one that really got me thinking:

Quote by PogoTheClown from reddit
A perfect example of how double standards affect our society. As men, and apparently even boys, we are at the mercy of women because we are always assumed to be the guilty one. (That extends into relationships too, but that is a different topic.)
This case should be tried with the names and genders of the children involved being redacted. If a jury heard "3 middle school age children forcibly stripped a grade school pupil, filmed it, and posted it online..." the reactions would be much different.


the bolded part got me thinking. If we're talking about gender equality and equal right and things like that with any degree of seriousness, maybe something like this should be considered.

thoughts?

interesting moral issue.
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#2
Definitely there is a gender inequality there. But it's not that simple. Men are (generally) much more sexually aggressive than women, because of society, and that's why the double-standard exist.
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So where can i watch the video at?
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So where can i watch the video at?


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#8
Girls should be charged, if a bunch of guys did that to a girl there would be pedo, rape charges. Plus if you really think about it, that's pretty ****ed up. Anyway, probably just some misdemeanor charges to stick on their record til they are 18. If I was this kid or his mom I would milk this dry.
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the bolded part got me thinking. If we're talking about gender equality and equal right and things like that with any degree of seriousness, maybe something like this should be considered.

thoughts?

interesting moral issue.

you ever noticed how when reporting accidents on the news, whenever it's only men they're always referred to as "workers" or "miners" or "passengers", but whenever there are women hurt or killed they are referred to extra? How many times have you heard "12 passengers were killed, including 5 women"?

Society in general values women's lives and safety more, because women are deemed as "weaker" and more vulnurable. So, just like when kids are killed, women's deaths or tragedies are of more sympathetic value than grown (and now apparently even 11-year old) men's, it's that simple

That being said, I agree that in cases like this, both ethnicity and gender should be withheld to make sure that prejudice doesn't influence the outcome.
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#14
Waitwaitwaitwait....

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Fort Myers Police says the girl would have faced misdemeanor battery charges, but that the boy's mother has refused to press charges. She wants the girls' parents to hand out a punishment instead.

The fact that this even happened in the first place is proof that the parents of those bitches won't do a damned thing to punish them.
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Girls should be charged, if a bunch of guys did that to a girl there would be pedo, rape charges. Plus if you really think about it, that's pretty ****ed up. Anyway, probably just some misdemeanor charges to stick on their record til they are 18. If I was this kid or his mom I would milk this dry.


This. If three 15-year-old guy did this to an 11-year-old girl, the entire goddamn world would be flipping a shit. Instead, misdemeanor.
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I read this in the paper a while ago, glad I have an apt place to repeat it:

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He has a point.
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I blame UG's feminist movement.


This made me chuckle.

And yeah its a double standard thing. And the mother should definitely have pressed charges.

But to be honest, stuff like this happens everyday in the new and global media. I can't really be bothered by it anymore.
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I read this in the paper a while ago, glad I have an apt place to repeat it:

"To the woman who told me off for not offering her my seat on the train: You fought long and hard for your equality, now you've got it, stand like the rest of us..."
He has a point.


Haha, I'm gonna be using this one.
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But to be honest, stuff like this happens everyday in the new and global media. I can't really be bothered by it anymore.

If this is sort of occurrence is widespread than that would be more cause for concern and indicative of a greater need for action to be taken, no?

This is an ass-backwards approach. "Well, the problem is already pandemic, might as well let it run its course".
#24
I find it a bit silly how people are complaining about feminism and "oh, you want equality but you think it's ok for you to go around raping boys etc."(not here but on reddit/the article) . They don't realize it all boils down to the same issue of inequality. Women have long been subject of injustice/oppression/whatever and are generally seen as weaker. Since they are seen as weaker they are also perceived as less harmful. Then when something like this happens, people brush it off like it's no big deal.
So here's a sign that feminism and equality of course not only serves women, but everyone.
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If this is sort of occurrence is widespread than that would be more cause for concern and indicative of a greater need for action to be taken, no?

This is an ass-backwards approach. "Well, the problem is already pandemic, might as well let it run its course".


If I'm going to concern myself with everything that is wrong with the global media. I'd much rather just kill myself cause I wouldn't have a life left.

Yes, things should be changed. Yes, it's shallow and dumb as hell.
But I can't work myself up over it anymore, and I sure as hell can't change it.
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Pretty much.

Double standards ftl.
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If I'm going to concern myself with everything that is wrong with the global media. I'd much rather just kill myself cause I wouldn't have a life left.
As if you have a life now.

Yes, things should be changed. Yes, it's shallow and dumb as hell.
But I can't work myself up over it anymore, and I sure as hell can't change it.

Not with that attitude you can't.
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Not with that attitude you can't.


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And you're probably right about the fact that things like this should be discussed more in the general public. But as stupid as the pit can be, and the terrible sexist jokes they come with. I think I can safely 99% on here have the same mindset regarding equality in race, gender, etc.
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If I'm going to concern myself with everything that is wrong with the global media. I'd much rather just kill myself cause I wouldn't have a life left.

Yes, things should be changed. Yes, it's shallow and dumb as hell.
But I can't work myself up over it anymore, and I sure as hell can't change it.


Concerning doesn't mean you have to start a campaign against it. You have already concerned yourself with it by posting two replies saying that it doesn't matter what happens. I mean you have to take a side on things...or else yeah you are right you can't change it.
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#31
Yep, that's pretty bad. This would be a much different story if it were 3 boys doing this to a girl. It's just as bad, especially considering that the kid was just in elementary school and the girls in middle school. One or two grades might not make much of a difference in high school, but at that age, it's a much bigger difference.

Secondly, gender doesn't matter with the fact that they posted it on youtube. That's just totally humiliating.
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So where can i watch the video at?


i put the link to the article and video right in the OP

article and video: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-06-01/Online-video-shows-Fort-Myers-boy-being-bullied
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#34
I rather like double standards, seeing as guys get to have sex with as many people as they want and in the end they get complimented rather than called a whore.
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I rather like double standards, seeing as guys get to have sex with as many people as they want and in the end they get complimented rather than called a whore.


Rape is different than sex, and rape charges hurt a bit more than being called a slut.
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#36
That's pretty ****ed. I agree with the fact that if it were 3 boys doing it to one girl, the ****ing ground would part and Satan himself would do a backflip. If I were the parent I would seriously pressed charges.

Shouldn't there also be a child pornography charge too? They filmed it, and posted it online...

/waits for mistress ibanez to come in and somehow say it was the boy's fault
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#37
"the video has been since removed from YouTube."

i don't get why they still show a clip of the actual vid




#38
Yeah there should be rape, and child porn charges...the kid's mom is stupid to not do anything, because you know the girls parents aren't going to serve any justice.

No, grounding them for weeks is not proper justice.
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Definitely there is a gender inequality there. But it's not that simple. Men are (generally) much more sexually aggressive than women, because of society, and that's why the double-standard exist.

The first thing I've actually agreed with you on.

Regardless, it's ****ed up that it's being treated so lightly.
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Yeah, that's an interesting point. I read a while ago that teens sending videos and pictures of themselves naked to their boyfriend/girlfriend were charged with child porn because the people in the pictures were underage. However, those people were *willing* participants, unlike this boy. I suppose it just depends on the attorney general and how strict he/she is in this case.
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