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For example, G Major...just the G major scale. Would its relative minor....the E minor scale, can the E minor Pentatonic scale be played over a G Major progression and still be "right"? I mean it sounds right but I'm just trying to brush up on my scale relations.
#2
It would resolve to G, so it wouldn't be E minor pentatonic. It would be called G major pentatonic, which has all the same notes, just G is the tonic. So yeah it does work, just know that it's called G major pentatonic and not E minor.

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It would resolve to G, so it wouldn't be E minor pentatonic. It would be called G major pentatonic, which has all the same notes, just G is the tonic. So yeah it does work, just know that it's called G major pentatonic and not E minor.



I wonder why that is??? It makes sense, its like if that's the case then why not name the current E minor scale in relation to G major...umm...G minor scale lol.

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I wonder why that is??? It makes sense, its like if that's the case then why not name the current E minor scale in relation to G major...umm...G minor scale lol.


They are both derived from the same set of notes (major and minor scale). Check it out:

G major: G A B C D E F#
E minor: E F# G A B C D

What's important is that you differentiate between your tonal center (what key is the song in?) If you know anything about harmony and chord progressions, you'll know that the whole point of harmonic progression is to establish a tonal center. Major keys and minor keys are two different ways of arriving at a similar conclusion.

Besides, G minor is already taken by this set of notes: G A Bb C D Eb F
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It "works" because the notes of Gmaj and the notes of Emin are exactly the same. So you can improv in Emin over a Gmaj progression. Itd be the same as improv using the Gmaj scale over a progression in Gmaj. You wouldn't be able to use Gmin over a progression in Gmaj bc the notes are different. Unless you're going for an "out there dissonance" kind of thing
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They are both derived from the same set of notes (major and minor scale). Check it out:

G major: G A B C D E F#
E minor: E F# G A B C D

What's important is that you differentiate between your tonal center (what key is the song in?) If you know anything about harmony and chord progressions, you'll know that the whole point of harmonic progression is to establish a tonal center. Major keys and minor keys are two different ways of arriving at a similar conclusion.

Besides, G minor is already taken by this set of notes: G A Bb C D Eb F


Ok for example, Eric Clapton's "Wonderful tonight"....classic song in G. I notice that most of the tabs have the solo played in Em penta. I know they are the same notes so thats why I asked but I'm glad I did because know I can start applying the Major Penta scales to my arsenal.
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Ya bud, G major and G minor are two totally different scales (although both resolve to G, I understand that) so you can't just call a G pentatonic a G minor scale, thats just all wrong, it would take a hell of a player to make G minor sound great over G major, Realize also that the notes of the scale make up the chords of the key, so this also changes everything, so we have our major qualities (I,ii,iii,IV,V,vi,viidim) and our minor qualities (i,iidim,III,iv,v or V,VI,VII) (lower case are minor chords), so in the key of G major G, Am, Bm, C, D, Em, F#dim, and in G minor, Gm, Edim, B, Cm, Dm or D, E, F#......big difference huh?

EDIT: Oops, in true harmonic minor the 7th degree is a vii dim with a dominant V, my fault
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You have G major progression and want to play E minor pentatonic over it.
Since it will resolve to G, you are actually playing G major pentatonic over it.
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Ok for example, Eric Clapton's "Wonderful tonight"....classic song in G. I notice that most of the tabs have the solo played in Em penta. I know they are the same notes so thats why I asked but I'm glad I did because know I can start applying the Major Penta scales to my arsenal.

Well it's actually just G major pentatonic then. Same pattern but the chord to that song are G - C - D (I think, been a while) so it's not gonna want to resolve to E.

G minor is a different scale, just think of major and minor with their relatives, you shouldn't go wrong.

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Ya bud, G major and G minor are two totally different scales (although both resolve to G, I understand that) so you can't just call a G pentatonic a G minor scale, thats just all wrong, it would take a hell of a player to make G minor sound great over G major, Realize also that the notes of the scale make up the chords of the key, so this also changes everything, so we have our major qualities (I,ii,iii,IV,V,vi,viidim) and our minor qualities (i,iidim,III,iv,v or V,VI,VII) (lower case are minor chords), so in the key of G major G, Am, Bm, C, D, Em, F#dim, and in G minor, Gm, Edim, B, Cm, Dm or D, E, F#......big difference huh?

EDIT: Oops, in true harmonic minor the 7th degree is a vii dim with a dominant V, my fault

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Ok for example, Eric Clapton's "Wonderful tonight"....classic song in G. I notice that most of the tabs have the solo played in Em penta. I know they are the same notes so thats why I asked but I'm glad I did because know I can start applying the Major Penta scales to my arsenal.


I have a feeling that you're confusing scales with patterns. Everyone else here has said the correct thing, that it's actually G major that's being played. Sure you can use the "Em penta" shapes, they're actually shared with G maj penta as they are the same notes. This doesn't mean that you're playing E minor though, because as stated numerous times, it resolves to G.
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