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#1
I'm looking to mimc Jimmy Page's guitar sound on "Whole Lotta Love" for a couple recordings. What do?
#2
a theramin to start.
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#4
AFAIK WLL doesn't need any effects.

It's just a small amp like a Supro or Tonemaster turned way the **** up.
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#5
A telecaster and a tonebender will get you sorta close, but asking for Page's pedals is a mistake. He used a tonebender fairly often, but his sound was mostly the result of novel recording setups. Pedals aren't a large part of the equation. A Marshall or an old Supro will both get the tone, even though they're worlds apart sonically. It's more of a vibe than a tone, I guess. A huge part of that was multi-tracking the same part many times, which gives that foamy crunch with a little swirl (from slightly varied intonation) on those tracks.
#8
^ I believe it.

He tried his damnedest to make that poor Les Paul sound like a Fender.
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#10
^ yeah, i really dig the earlier led zep stuff.

Quote by Roc8995
A huge part of that was multi-tracking the same part many times, which gives that foamy crunch with a little swirl (from slightly varied intonation) on those tracks.


SWIRL!

Man if I were a drinker I could make up the best TGP-themed drinking game ever.

Maybe we should just settle for TGP bingo (played to similar rules to buzzword bingo)...

but yeah, more seriously... tonebender... telecaster... small amp turned up... louche clothing... take your pick...

Quote by Duv
Didn't he use 0.08 gauge strings or something silly as well and then overdub like a bitch to fatten everything up.


WHAT A NOOB!

fuckin' jimmy page needs to come to UG to get some tone tricks on how to sound more like jimmy page. then he can go to tgp to learn why those marshalls he used were too buzzy in the mids.
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Quote by Roc8995
A telecaster and a tonebender will get you sorta close, but asking for Page's pedals is a mistake. He used a tonebender fairly often, but his sound was mostly the result of novel recording setups. Pedals aren't a large part of the equation. A Marshall or an old Supro will both get the tone, even though they're worlds apart sonically. It's more of a vibe than a tone, I guess. A huge part of that was multi-tracking the same part many times, which gives that foamy crunch with a little swirl (from slightly varied intonation) on those tracks.

What he said
#12
Quote by Dave_Mc

WHAT A NOOB!

fuckin' jimmy page needs to come to UG to get some tone tricks on how to sound more like jimmy page. then he can go to tgp to learn why those marshalls he used were too buzzy in the mids.

I'd love to see Page on these forums

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Hey it's Jimmy Page. Any tips on how to improve my tone? I'm currently using a 1958 Gibson Les Paul and a modded Marshall 1959-SLP

Well firstly you need a new amp. I'd recommend the Peavey Vypyr. I also think you should look at the Agile AL-3000000000. Way better than Gibson IMO.
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Quote by Duv
I'd love to see Page on these forums

The sad thing is that I could see that conversation actually occurring here.
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#14
Page wouldn't come here. he'd just call up Joe Walsh for tips, and Walsh would give him another guitar Page would become iconic for using.
#15
I hear he used a Zendrive into an Alpha Drive into an Overdrive Special.
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#16
For Whole Lotta Love, there is a reverse echo on the slide part in the chorus and then a wah pedal is briefly used for the solo. Those are the only effects in that entire song.
#17
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The sad thing is that I could see that conversation actually occurring here.

Then when he mentions his budget, the thread would move from Vypyr to 6505.
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#18
Theramin (not a pedal)
Echo/Verb (was probably a tape echo, also not really a pedal)
Supro Thunderbolt cranked to high hell (amp)

That's about it.
#19
He used a phaser, too. Either MXR Phase 90 or 100.
You could always get a standard LP, have coil tap's and and polarity reverse mods done, too....
It's an opinion. It's subjective. And I'm right, anyway.
#21
In the Whole Lotta Love solo he uses a Vox wah set all the way down to boost the treble
I'll pretend I can mod your amp but break it instead.
#22
jimmy page's les paul was stock during led zeppelin except for replacing the bridge paf with a t-top.
#23
Quote by al112987
jimmy page's les paul was stock during led zeppelin except for replacing the bridge paf with a t-top.

IK thought he'd had the mods done towards the end of the 70s and that's what the "original" signature models in the early 1990s were based on - the ones with switch options under the scratchplate.
It's an opinion. It's subjective. And I'm right, anyway.
#24
As far as I know those mods were done in the 80s, don't remember where I heard it though. It's pretty safe to say they were never heard on any Zeppelin recordings. The Les Paul was used a lot more often live than in the studio, and the live tones are pretty much straight up - LP, sometimes tonebender, sometimes vox wah, into a Marshall or a Hiwatt.
#26
The '80s could be a possibility. Wasn’t he endorsing those weird looking Roland guitars with the early synth stuff in back in 1984 or so?
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#27
Quote by Slap-happy
IK thought he'd had the mods done towards the end of the 70s and that's what the "original" signature models in the early 1990s were based on - the ones with switch options under the scratchplate.


Those mods were done after LZ and were done on his no.2 LP more info can be found here

Essentially the WLL tone is the no.1 LP through a Marshall 1959 Super Lead 100w, the only pedal used is the depressed wah on the solo
#28
there is no chance that the sound on the record is a super lead. 1) because page rarely recorded with the marshalls, 2) because it just flat out doesn't sound like one
#29
He used a Tele on LZII and little Supro amps.

The Marshall/LP combo was for live performances.
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#31
It's all moot because VH used an AC15 to record VH1. I read so on Rig Talk.
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#33
Quote by Slap-happy
The '80s could be a possibility. Wasn’t he endorsing those weird looking Roland guitars with the early synth stuff in back in 1984 or so?

If my memory serves me right that was when he did the Deathwish 2 soundtrack in 1982.
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#35
Quote by Slap-happy
He used a phaser, too. Either MXR Phase 90 or 100.
You could always get a standard LP, have coil tap's and and polarity reverse mods done, too....


that would be a little hard since they weren't even invented yet. phasing was a fairly new studio trick in early 69. jimmy's LP wasn't modded at that point either. most of whole Lotta Love was done with studio tricks like reverse echo and the theramin otherwise a cranked amp with a tonebender in front. jimmy rarely gives away his secrets so it's tough to nail down what exactly he used.
#36
Quote by Duv
I'd love to see Page on these forums


Hahaha. Good point. Besides the Peavy Vyper, I can also see Page being suggested a 5150 on here.
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#37
Whole Lotta Love was recorded with the black 1960 Les Paul Custom that was stolen from him in 1970. You can hear it's clearly that guitar on the solo, especially if you compare to the 1970 recordings on the Led Zeppelin DVD
#38
^ but 70's dvd's are so grainy.


so let me get this straight.

there is NO THERAMIN in the solo to WLL? studio or live.

I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me.
#39
Quote by digman50
Whole Lotta Love was recorded with the black 1960 Les Paul Custom that was stolen from him in 1970. You can hear it's clearly that guitar on the solo, especially if you compare to the 1970 recordings on the Led Zeppelin DVD
if you cna "clearly" hear that it's that specific guitar, then you must have very magical ears.
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