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#2
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#3
This is what happens when you let whiteys into your land.
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#4
I don't understand why everyone is so upset about these types of laws. Every AMERICAN is granted certain rights under the law and if your not a citizen, you should not be granted the same rights and privacies as citizens. As for the people who say it's profiling or racism, you're complaining about the obvious facts. Of course the officers are going to look for illegal immigrants by checking people who are latin looking or speak with an odd accent. They're doing their jobs and trying to eliminate the burden that these people are on society.
#5
My first thought is we should have a boycott, of the sort people directed against Arizona after they passed their racist, unconstitutional law.

My second thought is wait, who visits Alabama anyway?
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Quote by blackflag49
My first thought is we should have a boycott, of the sort people directed against Arizona after they passed their racist, unconstitutional law.

My second thought is wait, who visits Alabama anyway?

Yeah, my home state is so boring. Laws are meant to be broken, and people are going to do what they want.

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#8
Quote by Jabels225
I don't understand why everyone is so upset about these types of laws. Every AMERICAN is granted certain rights under the law and if your not a citizen, you should not be granted the same rights and privacies as citizens. As for the people who say it's profiling or racism, you're complaining about the obvious facts. Of course the officers are going to look for illegal immigrants by checking people who are latin looking or speak with an odd accent. They're doing their jobs and trying to eliminate the burden that these people are on society.

Oh yeah that's perfectly alright, let's ID everyone who looks mexican because they're likely illegal immigrants here on welfare and generally being a burden on society, that's not racist or anything.
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#9
To be honest, while some may see it as, wrong or immoral. I live in England where being culturally proud is seen as racist. So foreign ideals are seen as more important than our own. I'd rather have people in the country that are here for a good reason, because they want to be in the UK. So instead of trying to force they're culture on us, they would embrace our culture, as it was their choice to come to the UK.

So while I'm not entirely in support of people being, in theory, randomly searched, I'm for trying to enforce immigration laws.
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#11
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So while I'm not entirely in support of people being, in theory, randomly searched, I'm for trying to enforce immigration laws.


This one explicitly states that they can only be checked if they have been pulled over for another reason.
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I'm gonna drive through Georgia and Alabama with a broken tail-light and my American passport, while speaking in an accent. I hope they're throughly confused.


You're a curly headed white kid. Are they really going to be all too confused?
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#12
How about we revamp our shitty immigration laws and/or penalize the corporations who actively recruit illegals to cross the border to work for them instead?
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Quote by blake1221
You're a curly headed white kid. Are they really going to be all too confused?



Then I'll bring my mother along, and instead pretend as if I don't know English, if you're gonna be like that.

Not everyone of hispanic or Latino descent is tan, sir.
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Quote by blackflag49
My first thought is we should have a boycott, of the sort people directed against Arizona after they passed their racist, unconstitutional law.

My second thought is wait, who visits Alabama anyway?

this.
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Quote by L2112Lif
Then I'll bring my mother along, and instead pretend as if I don't know English, if you're gonna be like that.

Not everyone of hispanic or Latino descent is tan, sir.


The good ones are
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Quote by Masamune
How about we revamp our shitty immigration laws and/or penalize the corporations who actively recruit illegals to cross the border to work for them instead?



There are laws against employing anyone with at least a work visa. Unfortunately, its more difficult to get through corporate books, lawyers, PR people, HR departments, etc.


I don't like these laws, it seems like its going to end up harassing Americans here legally more than help law enforcement catch people who are here illegally. Its silly and stupid.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

16.3% of the population reported themselves as Hispanic or of Hispanic origin, not all visibly. And then there are OTHER RACIAL GROUPS that get mixed up in this. Its stupid.
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Quote by Jabels225
I don't understand why everyone is so upset about these types of laws. Every AMERICAN is granted certain rights under the law and if your not a citizen, you should not be granted the same rights and privacies as citizens. As for the people who say it's profiling or racism, you're complaining about the obvious facts. Of course the officers are going to look for illegal immigrants by checking people who are latin looking or speak with an odd accent. They're doing their jobs and trying to eliminate the burden that these people are on society.
The law is racist. It relies on profiling.

Why is being American so important? We are all citizens of the world. We can't exert our imperialist power on other countries, keep our boots on their neck, and get pissed when people want to live here. There is no reason why we should classify people as 'legal' or 'illegal', as there is certainly not anything wrong with being from another country.

If I may ask, why do you think immigrants are a burden on society?
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Quote by due 07
The law is racist. It relies on profiling.

Why is being American so important? We are all citizens of the world. We can't exert our imperialist power on other countries, keep our boots on their neck, and get pissed when people want to live here. There is no reason why we should classify people as 'legal' or 'illegal', as there is certainly not anything wrong with being from another country.

If I may ask, why do you think immigrants are a burden on society?


Is this a real question. He doesn't have anything against immigrants. He said illegal immigrants. Big difference.
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#20
If it's what I think it is I hope they put it into effect somewhere where immigration is a real problem like Cali or Texas
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Quote by WCPhils
Is this a real question. He doesn't have anything against immigrants. He said illegal immigrants. Big difference.
There's really not a big difference, if we are talking about humans. The only difference is one has been granted by the state the "legal" right to exist. If you really think about it though, it shouldn't matter at all.
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Quote by due 07
There's really not a big difference, if we are talking about humans. The only difference is one has been granted by the state the "legal" right to exist. If you really think about it though, it shouldn't matter at all.


No one's talking about the right to exist, we're talking about the right to access goods and services that have been provided by American taxpayers specifically for the betterment of American people's livelihoods.
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Quote by blake1221
No one's talking about the right to exist, we're talking about the right to access goods and services that have been provided by American taxpayers specifically for the betterment of American people's livelihoods.



I'll care about illegal immigration as soon as we either get universal healthcare, or a hospital and healthcare system that is competent across the United States, and doesn't put doctors at risk for treating patients.
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I'm not sure how many of you would support amnesty. If the problem is illegal immigrants using public goods than giving them legal residence and having them pay taxes they don't already pay would fix that. Any legitimate reasons against doing that?
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Quote by L2112Lif
In This Law: State congressmen who think that Mexicans = all immigrants.

Shame.

I'm hispanic, but i'm almost glad that i'm white and almost European look so I don't get the LOL UR MEXICAN?! look from some people.
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Quote by blake1221
No one's talking about the right to exist, we're talking about the right to access goods and services that have been provided by American taxpayers specifically for the betterment of American people's livelihoods.
Partly my point. I don't really care if these taxes are meant for the American people's livelihoods. We are all human, everyone should be cared for equally. Rather than cracking down on immigration, we should focus on fixing the root of the problem.

It's like a drug addict... you just put him in jail, and all of a sudden you have an addict in jail. If you focus on treating the addiction, then the problem will go away. This law is just a pathetic attempt at demagoguery using racism and the cultural zeitgeist of the area to garner popular support for either his own reelection, or the reelection of the party.
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these kinds of laws seem to be made with hispanics in mind. hispanics (and maybe asians, but we all know its hispanics) are the ones who are going to get harassed the most because no one is going to question the western european with the sexy accent.
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Quote by Masamune
I'm not sure how many of you would support amnesty. If the problem is illegal immigrants using public goods than giving them legal residence and having them pay taxes they don't already pay would fix that. Any legitimate reasons against doing that?
Because dude, they have like brown skin or something. this here is a white country,
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Quote by Masamune
I'm not sure how many of you would support amnesty. If the problem is illegal immigrants using public goods than giving them legal residence and having them pay taxes they don't already pay would fix that. Any legitimate reasons against doing that?



No, but you'll be met with The White Trash Mating Call.
#32
Maybe if these politicians watch more latin porn they might change their mind
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#33
Quote by due 07
Partly my point. I don't really care if these taxes are meant for the American people's livelihoods. We are all human, everyone should be cared for equally. Rather than cracking down on immigration, we should focus on fixing the root of the problem.

It's like a drug addict... you just put him in jail, and all of a sudden you have an addict in jail. If you focus on treating the addiction, then the problem will go away. This law is just a pathetic attempt at demagoguery using racism and the cultural zeitgeist of the area to garner popular support for either his own reelection, or the reelection of the party.


Then that is where we disagree. I don't think it is the government's job to coddle its people, and especially not people who thought they could bypass our laws without any consequence. As a legal mexican in the US, I do not find it fair when illegals cheat the system when others who adhere to the law have to go through the proper work to get in.

And the root of the problem is Mexico, the place they are trying to leave. How do we fix that? Invasion? That would go over quite well I'm sure.
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Quote by Masamune
I'm not sure how many of you would support amnesty. If the problem is illegal immigrants using public goods than giving them legal residence and having them pay taxes they don't already pay would fix that. Any legitimate reasons against doing that?


Because if that happened America's population would just go out of control too quickly
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#35
Quote by due 07
Because dude, they have like brown skin or something. this here is a white country,


I don't care what color skin they have. If all the illegals were coming in from Canada it would be the same story. I have no problem with people coming over legally.
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#36
Good. America is having massive problems with illegal immigration as are we in Europe. The problem with this policy is that nothing is being done about legal immigration as well.
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Quote by blake1221
Then that is where we disagree. I don't think it is the government's job to coddle its people, and especially not people who thought they could bypass our laws without any consequence. As a legal mexican in the US, I do not find it fair when illegals cheat the system when others who adhere to the law have to go through the proper work to get in.

And the root of the problem is Mexico, the place they are trying to leave. How do we fix that? Invasion? That would go over quite well I'm sure.

Good luck getting in legally if you're poor. My family members had to prove they had property in Brazil to get a visa to the US. That was back in the 80s but the same apparently goes on today. A lot of people end up falsifying documents or getting a friend to "sell" them property until they get a visa.
#38
It's funny how the only supporters of illegals comes from people where it isn't a problem and know nothing of the actual problems caused by illegals. Something has to be done and amnesty is not a legitimate solution to anything unless you want a whole lot of American citizens with the interests of a foreign nation in our country.
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Quote by blake1221
And the root of the problem is Mexico, the place they are trying to leave. How do we fix that? Invasion? That would go over quite well I'm sure.
Mexico has a terrible economy ravaged by the atrocities of capitalism, war on drugs, etc.

We have already invaded Mexico in order to demonize the lower class and make them look like criminals to the rest of society, anyways.
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If it's what I think it is I hope they put it into effect somewhere where immigration is a real problem like Cali or Texas

Nope. Not going to happen, sorry. There was an anti-immigration ballot that passed in California in the 90's, but it politicized the Hispanic population of that state to a degree that nothing like it has been proposed since, and likely will never get very far again.

Similar story in Texas, there is a large Hispanic population whose votes both political parties realize is necessary for long-term viability, considering the demographic trends in that state, so even Rick Perry, the nutty Republican governor who's publicly talked of secession, refused to endorse an Arizona-style law in Texas.