#1
Anyone here tried it? How good does it handle metal, especially thrash and a bit of death in dropped tunings (mostly D and C, and some B occasionally). I don't think I'm getting a new guitar anytime soon so I thought I'd put a decent pickup in the bridge in my current one. The HZ is not very expensive so I'm considering it.

My guitar is a Stagg S-300, body made of alder (or at least their website says it's alder, I guess it's cheapass shitty alder, but meh), do you think it's worth upgrading it with a new pickup?

Any other pickup suggestion is welcome, of course.
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#2
how expensive is "not very expensive"?

consensus seems to be that the emg hzs aren't that great. unless it's really really cheap (like a tenner) i wouldn't bother, when you can get things like toneriders and irongears for like £25.
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#4
I had them on my first guitar upgrade. my schecter Damien FR. Its a nice upgrade from say, a starter squire or along those lines, but they aren't amazing. I forget theyre price, but I'd steer away from them personally. They don't have a great great sound, and notes aren't crystal clear. Just my two cents

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#6
well i haven't tried them, but i'm guessing toneriders or irongears would give them a run for their money at about half the price.

or i mean at that price, you're almost within range of duncans at thomann prices, as long as you're willing to buy one of the sets. the jb/jazz set, or the distortion set, or the '59 set, are around 120-130 euros. for only 20-30 euros more...

EDIT: oh you're only going for a single pickup, are you? then in that case, yeah the duncans are a fair bit more, they're like 77 euro.

Personally for a cheap guitar like that i'd be going with something like tonerider or irongear... if you like it it's worth an upgrade, but you probably don't want to be putting a pickup in that's worth twice what the guitar is, lol.

EDIT #2: just had a quick look at the stagg site, is it routed for a humbucker at the bridge?
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#7
A DiMarzio D-Activator would sound much much better. My M-200FM currently has an H4 in the bridge, and honestly the stock ESP pickup was better. One of the worst decisions I've made. But I didnt have UG then, so go figure.
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#8
Emg are known for making active pick ups. The b4 is a passive attempt at an 81. I'd get something else.
#10
I have a set in my Schecter and honestly it gets me most the tones i need. I use it for different kinds of drop tuned metal, lowest i usually go is C but ive dropped it down to Bb before. i dont see why everyone bashes them. But i guess different stuff works for different people
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I have a set in my Schecter and honestly it gets me most the tones i need. I use it for different kinds of drop tuned metal, lowest i usually go is C but ive dropped it down to Bb before. i dont see why everyone bashes them. But i guess different stuff works for different people

youre right, its all preference. I had the damien as well, and enjoyed them for a bit, but once I got my schecter classic with the Duncan pickups, I realized how sterile the sound was. theyre not horrible, but not a great upgrade in my opinion. TS best way to go about it is to see if you can find a guitar with a set of them and try it out
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#12
Waste of money if its a aftermarket.

There are way better pups out there. Save for them.

Stop-gap upgrades will end up costing you more in the long run. A lot more.
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#13
yeah exactly, that's the difference- as stock pickups on cheaper guitars, the hzs are fine, as shecter guy rightly said. The problem is what's decent as a stock pickup isn't necessarily good value as an upgrade. I mean 49 euros apiece isn't far off what you can get a duncan for, and is actually a fair bit more than you can get things like tonerider and irongear for, both of which have a reputation for being pretty decent pickups for not much money.

heck you can get handwound catswhisker humbuckers for about 50 quid each (which is maybe 55 euro at the current exchange rate). I haven't tried them personally, but I've heard good things, and certainly if i had £50 for a pickup i'd be getting the catswhisker and not the emg hz.
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#14
IMO they are not good upgrade p/u's.
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