#1
Well I've been thinking of buying a new guitar and my price range goes up to $850. The two guitars i am looking at right now are the telecaster blackout, and the epiphone les paul standard. they both are really nice guitars, and i have a fender squier and it's a strat right now. Anybody got ideas on what i should choose? i'm 14 and play heavy metal, grunge, just lots of hard rock. Melvins, Nirvana, Tad, try to play pantera sometimes, and cage the elephant. So it's not all hard rock, but yea. If you guys have any other guitar suggestions i would appreciate that too! THX!
Last edited by KingBuzzBoy at Jun 20, 2011,
#2
fenders are typically for lighter types of music up to modern rock styles so im gonna say you should go with the les paul if you wanna play metal. Les pauls are pretty all round guitars so theyre never a really bad choice.
#3
^Guess you haven't checked Iron Maiden's gear for example and many other great classics.

I'd say you should also try the Fender Blackout Stratocaster since you also have the telecaster in mind and that you already have a strat... which you haven't specified yet. Talking about Gibson, do you happen to live in Europe? Because Thomann has these special Gibson LP Studios which look really nice and are near to the specs of the original LP studio. You might like them and they're also better quality than Epiphones (I'm not saying that the Epiphone Les Pauls have bad quality, I had one and it was really good for the price).
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#4
Teles aren't typically used in rock and metal, but it can work quite well.

The Fender Blackout does have better build quality than an Epiphone LP Standard, so I'd reccommend that.
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#5
Check the Fender Blacktop series. It's such a versatile range, and mixes Fender's build quality with humbuckers that will support a beefier sound. It should match your price range as well
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#6
Look at the Gibsin LP studio in that price range. but it really comes down to feal/playability which is the better for you.
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#7
neither is better or worse, it comes down to personal preference. Either can be used for just about any genre of music. They both have a full lineup of quality instruments. play them both and see which you like. A strat or an LP will never fail you.
#8
Quote by KingBuzzBoy
Well I've been thinking of buying a new guitar and my price range goes up to $850. The two guitars i am looking at right now are the fender blackout (tele), and the gibson epiphone les paul standard. they both are really nice guitars, and i have a strat right now. Anybody got ideas on what i should choose? i'm 14 and play heavy metal, grunge, just lots of hard rock. Melvins, Nirvana, Tad, try to play pantera sometimes, and cage the elephant. So it's not all hard rock, but yea. If you guys have any other guitar suggestions i would appreciate that too! THX!


1) Fender Blackout Tele or Fender Blacktop Tele? They're hugely different things in Fender's line. The Blackout is a SSS Tele with an extra neck pickup, the Blacktop is a HH Telecaster that's around the low-end of Fender's Mexican guitars.

2) You're not talking about a Gibson, you're talking about an Epiphone. I know it's "splitting hairs" but still it says Epiphone on the headstock, not Gibson.

3) You say you have a Strat, could you please expand on that?

EDIT: ALso, there's no such thing as a Blackout Strat
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#9
grunge tones in general and nirvana are single coil or p-90 tones imo.

metal is buckers.

i'd go for a HSS American Special Strat if buying new. they hold their value as a MIM blacktop doesn't.
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#10
You want to think hard before you give up all humbuckers on the guitar. Going with all single coils means you must really like single coils.

Look at guitars that have at least a humbucker in the bridge position.

For $850, you can't get close to a USA made Gibson Les Paul. But since you said you like metal, it could put you in a good place for ESP guitars.

This one might be a good place to start getting ideas:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-LTD-Deluxe-MH-1000-Electric-Guitar-with-EMGs-512954-i1175986.gc
#11
ok get a set of surroundsound headphones listen to a cage the elephant album perferably their first one the guitar you hear on the left is a les paul and hes pretty much the lead player, the one on the right is a telecaster, jazzmaster, or jaguar
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#13
I want to than k you all for the great advice you guys have given me! i am now looking into it alot more and i have you guys to thank for that. i apologize if i wasn't specific enough in some cases. i edited the question for more clarification in the future. thx again.
#14
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1) Fender Blackout Tele or Fender Blacktop Tele? They're hugely different things in Fender's line. The Blackout is a SSS Tele with an extra neck pickup, the Blacktop is a HH Telecaster that's around the low-end of Fender's Mexican guitars.

2) You're not talking about a Gibson, you're talking about an Epiphone. I know it's "splitting hairs" but still it says Epiphone on the headstock, not Gibson.

3) You say you have a Strat, could you please expand on that?

EDIT: ALso, there's no such thing as a Blackout Strat

I am sorry you found so many things wrong with the post. i edited it out, and it is clarified much more now. i just assumed i could add gibson on there seeing as it was on the site. i didn't think it mattered. I also clarified that my fender is a squier. i also thought i had said the blackout was a tele, i guess u might have misunderstood, but oh well, thx for the reply.
#15
there's this band called Billy Talent, they're kinda heavy. The guitarist uses a Fender Telecaster 72 Deluxe (has 2 humbuckers) and it sounds awesome. Check it out.
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there's this band called Billy Talent, they're kinda heavy. The guitarist uses a Fender Telecaster 72 Deluxe (has 2 humbuckers) and it sounds awesome. Check it out.

Oh i know them, lol, they're canadian, and i live in canada. and will check out that guitar! thx dude
#18
I'd suggest a hss (humbucker in the bridge and 2 single coils in front) strat as well, especially if you want one guitar that can cover all of what you want. Are you dead set on choosing between these 2 or are you open to other options as well?
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I am sorry you found so many things wrong with the post. i edited it out, and it is clarified much more now. i just assumed i could add gibson on there seeing as it was on the site. i didn't think it mattered. I also clarified that my fender is a squier. i also thought i had said the blackout was a tele, i guess u might have misunderstood, but oh well, thx for the reply.


Well, it's most pet peeve stuff. And the "blackout strat" was someone else.
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#20
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For $850, you can't get close to a USA made Gibson Les Paul. But since you said you like metal, it could put you in a good place for ESP guitars.


Yes you can. Gibson makes multiple Studio models for $850 or under. The 60s Tributes are actually excellent for that price, and the Studio Worn models are around the same price or even a little less.
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Well, it's most pet peeve stuff. And the "blackout strat" was someone else.

I see! it makes sense now! Thx anyways for posting though dude, this was my first post and i was surprised at how quick the feedback was from the rest of the community.
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Yes you can. Gibson makes multiple Studio models for $850 or under. The 60s Tributes are actually excellent for that price, and the Studio Worn models are around the same price or even a little less.

And check that out i will. thx dude.
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Oh i know them, lol, they're canadian, and i live in canada. and will check out that guitar! thx dude


LOL theyre from my city... just saying.

but i would probably say a good MIM standard tele or used american strat/ tele and then save up to put a bucker in it
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And check that out i will. thx dude.


No problem, the guitars I mentioned are actually pretty good. I honestly think they play better than most of the ridiculously expensive ones. I'm not sure if that's my subconscious liking them more because the price is good or not, but still.. haha
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#25
Fenders (especially Blackouts) aren't really the best Humbucker choice. However, I believe Slipknot uses a Telecaster. Theyre certainly versatile guitars, but I wouldn't buy it for the humbuckers unless you give it an upgrade.
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I'd suggest a hss (humbucker in the bridge and 2 single coils in front) strat as well, especially if you want one guitar that can cover all of what you want. Are you dead set on choosing between these 2 or are you open to other options as well?


I was thinking HSS as well.
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Quote by JAHellraiser
I'd suggest a hss (humbucker in the bridge and 2 single coils in front) strat as well, especially if you want one guitar that can cover all of what you want. Are you dead set on choosing between these 2 or are you open to other options as well?

Oh, i'm open to other options. Thx for the advice
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Fenders (especially Blackouts) aren't really the best Humbucker choice. However, I believe Slipknot uses a Telecaster. Theyre certainly versatile guitars, but I wouldn't buy it for the humbuckers unless you give it an upgrade.

Yea, i'm a big slipknot fan, James Root from Slipknot has his own custom tele. I'll definitely beware of the humbuckers
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LOL theyre from my city... just saying.

but i would probably say a good MIM standard tele or used american strat/ tele and then save up to put a bucker in it

Sweet, ya my bro was born in Mississauga just like billy talent too. But i shall check out the stuff u said. ya and the blackout is a mim too.
#30
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No problem, the guitars I mentioned are actually pretty good. I honestly think they play better than most of the ridiculously expensive ones. I'm not sure if that's my subconscious liking them more because the price is good or not, but still.. haha

Lol, happy u mentioned em cuz i'm checking them out now and from what i'm reading, they're awesome.
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No problem, the guitars I mentioned are actually pretty good. I honestly think they play better than most of the ridiculously expensive ones. I'm not sure if that's my subconscious liking them more because the price is good or not, but still.. haha

well the P-90s aren't that bad for the stuff he wants to play really. aside the melvins alot of the bands used singles of some sort. but yea, the 60s tribute studios are $850.

a worn cherry studio with humbuckers would be what? $800 new i think?
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#32
You should definitely check out as many guitars as you possibly can that are around your price range.
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You should definitely check out as many guitars as you possibly can that are around your price range.

i very much agree
#34
I feel compelled to say that you should go for a Jackson or an Ibanez, then again, that's just me
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I feel compelled to say that you should go for a Jackson or an Ibanez, then again, that's just me

I have actually been considering an Ibanez alot. Thx!