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#1
I couldn't think of an appropriate title so that's good enough.
Anyways, why does it (usually) seem that the more "intelligent" a person is, the more socially awkward they are?

Example, my friend Brandon is very smart. High 90's in all his classes. But he can't hold a conversation for the life of him, never mind be sociable. Same thing with my friend Derek, though he isn't as "smart" and he's less socially awkward.

Same is going for me. I'm getting "smarter" and I've found myself becoming more socially awkward.

Discuss I suppose. Give your thoughts on why this happens, or if you don't think it does, etc.
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#2
In real life people consider me "smart" (I'm obiously not) and I'm not socially awkward in that sense.

StewieSwan's pst explains why I'm not smart and not socially awkward, but I don research and spend less time communicating.
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#3
Because they apply their time into learning facts and figures instead of social and communication skills. Pretty simple answer, brah.
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Because they apply their time into learning facts and figures instead of social and communication skills. Pretty simple answer, brah.


Pretty much this. Also, conversation generally follows illogical routes.
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#6
I got straight A's and I'm not socially inept in any way
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Because they apply their time into learning facts and figures instead of social and communication skills. Pretty simple answer, brah.


Well I haven't exactly thought of it that way. It actually makes sense.
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#9
This is only true for a small portion of "intelligent" people.


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#11
...Because holding a conversation is a much more dynamic activity than memorizing stuff and practising hoe to do some calculations?
#12
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There are all different types of intelligences, and just because he gets good grades doesn't mean he's intelligent.
Also, there's no correlation between high academic intelligence and social awkwardness.

He's intelligent. I just didn't really have a way of saying.
And I know there isn't, I was just saying how it seems there always is.
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He's intelligent. I just didn't really have a way of saying.
And I know there isn't, I was just saying how it seems there always is.

Never mind the first part then.
Yeah, I mean anyone can be socially awkward; people of all different intelligences.
#14
We feel like our conversations are superior to that of others or that others can't relate to what we would say, so we say nothing.

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#15
yes but i use that intelligence to lie my way into peoples hearts. im the most loved dick head here.
#16
I've been progressively getting less intelligent and more socially awkward over the years, so that doesn't work with me.
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Because they apply their time into learning facts and figures instead of social and communication skills. Pretty simple answer, brah.


Since when was intelligence linked to learning facts and figures? If anything facts and figures will be remembered in the context of explaining a deeper concept.

Example.
Two children.
Child 1 memorises the 5 times table and recites it perfectly, from memorising the sequence of numbers.
Child 2 understands the concept of multiplication, and learns the 5 times table like that. The table is memorised due to the application of the concept.

Child 2 is clearly more intelligent.

One theory would be that people who are really intelligent find the banalities of social interaction boring and don't want to get involved.

Another is that they've spent too much time on their own.

They could have nothing in common with the general population.

They could just be nervous people and it's not linked to intelligence.

Illusions of grandeur meaning they don't want to concern themselves with petty things such as socialising.

There's so many theories you could go with.
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You mean to tell me Tesla probably wasn't the life of the party when he wasn't making the greatest inventions ever and tending to injured pigeons? Mind=Blown.
#20
Well ... the best prediction of how "smart" a person is, is the size of their penis vocabulary. So, smarter people, on average, communicate much more effectively. However the average person cannot understand the majority of these words. Thus there is a communication error! "Smart" people realize that there is an error in communication, while "un-smart" people think that the "smart" people are socially awkward.

Just my 2 cents.
#22
Truly intelligent people have issues holding conversations with people who don't think as quickly as they do or in as many directions simulataneously. It's like if you've got two musicians of vastly different skill levels just jamming. Either the more skilled musician will start going in directions that the less skilled one can't follow, or he will have to restrain himself in order to allow the session to continue. Neither is very engaging or fun. To relate the analogy back, in conversation some intelligent people do the former, and people are either impressed, intimidated, or dismissive, and some do the later, and just choose not to try.

Of course, some people are just ****ing weird. And that applies to both geniuses and morons.
#23
My dad's side of the family is like this, while my mom's is charismatic and unintelligent. Too bad I got the worst from both. But to shed some sort of light on this, more to agree with a previous post, I believe that there is no correlation between intelligence and social awkwardness. If I had to pick, it would have to be that intelligent people know the consequences that follow spewing out whatever comes to mind, but I have seen cases that disagree with this. One word of advice, force yourself to be more social if you really are disappointed in your social life. If you're happy, why change?
#24
In my humble opinion, kids these days are conditioned to do or say what is 'right' all the time. So when they are in a situation when they are unsure as to what the 'normal' thing to do is, it creates tension. I think most people are afraid to upset the status quo, both in school and in social situations, because they are usually rewarded for giving the 'right' answer (without actually thinking about it), and because they fear negative reactions when they deviate from the prescribed path. Just blindly doing what is popularly considered right isn't intelligence, though, to me. When I was in school, I knew lots of kids who always got A's on all their tests, but when I talked to them, I was like "this kids an idiot, he can't even think for himself or form a real opinion - he just memorizes things". I consider intelligence more like the ability to think about subjects from your own unique perspective, while still having an open mind to what others think as well, either in the past or in the present. My advice would be, don't be afraid to go with your gut and to follow your instincts, and never blindly accept what is taught to you solely based on faith or authority.
#25
here's what's up with me: i'm actually not socially awkward, but i don't hang around with lots of people. i know this is going to sound arrogant, but i was some sort of a gifted child. and, when growing up, i couldn't find many people my age who shared the same interests as me, let alone who could understand me; i spent lots of time just walking in circles in my front yard making shit up in my mind (then i got into drugs but w.e. hehe). add to that: growing up between three different countries, different schools and neighborhoods, i kind of developed an introverted personality. BUT actually i'm not just that because i can also be really extroverted and talk to anyone if i want to, i've been told i'm a great public speaker, it's just that usually i don't get anything from it and i don't feel interest in talking to some random girl who most likely will have nothing for me. i see where you are coming from with the 'intelligence & social awkwardness' thing. i have my girlfriend who i'm happy with, i have my artistic outlets and a few good friends i do stupid shit with.


i guess i'm just awesome like that. not but seriously go on wikipedia (or google) and do some research on intelligence, mental disorders, personality disorders, etc. etc.
#26
A lot of great responses in here guys. Some that I hadn't even thought of before. And some worded beautifully.
#27
Did TS just call me stupid?

Relatedly, I know someone who is far from smart. Granted his parents sheltering him probably has to do with it, but still. He's disturbingly socially awkward. Not just "Weird guy at party" awkward, "Plan events specifically to avoid him because he's a giant mood-killer" awkward.

I know I sound like a complete dick saying that, but I'm not going to lie. He's essentially a case that debunks this for me.
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#28
While I was in high school and college, I guess you could consider me as one of the smarter ones. As and Bs across the board. Went to every party I could find, hung around with a massive group of people (mainly because we all shared the common interest of pot and beer) very outgoing person.
Since the end of college, just over a year ago, and splitting with my long term girlfriend at the same time I've become very introverted and antisocial. At the same time, I can't bring myself to join clever sounding discussions, and every time I do I find myself ****ing up somewhere and losing track or making stupid mistakes. I'm getting less clever D:
#29
To most people it's cool to be "dumb" and not speak of anything relevant or important in the real world. I guess intelligent people have problem's relating to that type of discussion. I'm smart enough to make good grades and hold intelligent conversations, but at the same time I know it's important to be sociable.
#30
I'm smart I think....and I've had a few people say I am....and I'm really socially awkward most of the time. Hot chicks are the only people who can be smart and social. Lucky bitches...
#31
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Well ... the best prediction of how "smart" a person is, is the size of their penis vocabulary. So, smarter people, on average, communicate much more effectively. However the average person cannot understand the majority of these words. Thus there is a communication error! "Smart" people realize that there is an error in communication, while "un-smart" people think that the "smart" people are socially awkward.

Just my 2 cents.


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#32
Maybe a lack of invested time in trying to understand the subjects that people of lesser intelligence talk about?
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I'm pretty much average.


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Because they apply their time into learning facts and figures instead of social and communication skills. Pretty simple answer, brah.


This, not to mention intelligent people tend to not give a **** about how your cat did the cutest thing...


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#35
Some people just socialize in different ways. I've known LOTS of people who were very sociable but didn't have the sharpest light bulb in the deck of cards. Then the nerds who were very intelligent, and they may not be the life of the party but among themselves they have great conversations.

I don't consider myself that socially awkward. I'm not exactly the loudest or most talkative person in any circle. I do prefer meeting people individually, as opposed to being introduced to others in groups where it's hard sometimes to understand the inside jokes or to be the new guy trying to carve his way in. But I still enjoy meeting people, don't have much trouble holding a conversation.
#36
Some poop:
A lot of the time people assume that quieter "unpopular" kids have good grades when in fact they do not. That doesn't actual represent their intelligence, though.
I know as many, if not more, sociable-type kids who get good grades as I do un-sociable type kids.
Also, there's a thing called social intelligence.
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Also, there's a thing called social intelligence.

According to one theory of psychology.

Intelligence is a hard thing to define, primarily because it cannot be physically measured. Anyways, my psych teacher said that it was just a myth. Usually intelligent people are sociable too. But I reserve judgement until I see concrete evidence one way or the other
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According to one theory of psychology.

Intelligence is a hard thing to define, primarily because it cannot be physically measured. Anyways, my psych teacher said that it was just a myth. Usually intelligent people are sociable too. But I reserve judgement until I see concrete evidence one way or the other

Everything's a feckin' theory.
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