#1
Hey all. Lately I've been looking at tube distortion pedals, like the Blackstar DistX or the Seymour Duncan Mayhem. They seem to sound good, but I have some questions about how they work. Do these essentially function as another preamp? And, if they do, will they clash with my amp's preamp? Also, I have a Valvestate 2000 AVT150 (if you're going to tell me to get a tube amp, skip to the second paragraph). If I turned up the gain on the pedal, and then turned up the gain on the amp's clean channel (which normally gives a warm crunch), would this create glorious saturation, or a horrible mess?

Now, for all those folk who want to tell me to get a new amp. Say I was willing to sell my Valvastate and some other things to get the cash and do it. What would you recommend? I play in a band, so it'd have to be at least as loud as the Valvestate, but cheap enough for a college student level budget ($600-$800 range at most).
#3
Go with the Mayhem, look at youtube demos of it. I've never owned either pedals, but have heard good things about both.
#4
the effect of two gain stages is never as dramatic as you'd expect. i played a fender supersonic with two gains and presuming we can generalise from that, a second gain will add compression and thickness, at least that's what fender say.
#5
Quote by nickdohle
What type of music do you play?


Traditional Metal, Thrash, Grunge, and Hard Rock, mostly.
#6
Quote by yudansha1201
Hey all. Lately I've been looking at tube distortion pedals, like the Blackstar DistX or the Seymour Duncan Mayhem. They seem to sound good, but I have some questions about how they work. Do these essentially function as another preamp? And, if they do, will they clash with my amp's preamp? Also, I have a Valvestate 2000 AVT150 (if you're going to tell me to get a tube amp, skip to the second paragraph). If I turned up the gain on the pedal, and then turned up the gain on the amp's clean channel (which normally gives a warm crunch), would this create glorious saturation, or a horrible mess?

Now, for all those folk who want to tell me to get a new amp. Say I was willing to sell my Valvastate and some other things to get the cash and do it. What would you recommend? I play in a band, so it'd have to be at least as loud as the Valvestate, but cheap enough for a college student level budget ($600-$800 range at most).


they work prety much the same as a regular distortion pedal except they have a tube as part of the circuit. unfortunatly the tubes are run with a high enough plate voltage to hit saturation point. i wouldn't count on anything glorious coming from a valvestate. get yourself an all tube amp instead of the half assed approach. oh and as i recal the tube in a valvestate only is used in the drive channel not the clean.
#7
Quote by monwobobbo
oh and as i recal the tube in a valvestate only is used in the drive channel not the clean.


Really? That is interesting, I would have figured it was the reverse.
#8
Quote by yudansha1201
Traditional Metal, Thrash, Grunge, and Hard Rock, mostly.


Go for a used JCM 800 if you can get one that cheap. Its a pretty good thrash and hard rock amp. So is the 900.
#9
Effectrode Tube Overdrive. I'm sure with the right tubes, it can go pretty heavy.

http://proguitarshop.com/store/effects-standout-stompbox-c-602_524/effectrode-tube-drive-overdrive-p-1253
Guitars:
Gibson SG Standard with Bigsby
Gibson Custom ES-137
Gibson Custom 54' Les Paul VOS Goldtop
Gretsch G6129T Silver Jet
1968 Harmony Rocket H75


Amps:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (modded)
1970 Fender Twin Reverb (blackfaced)

Last edited by kracdown at Jun 24, 2011,