#1
I want to add more balls to my amp. Im looking for a pedal that will give me as much gain as possible. You hear bands like korn getting this insane gain and are like "what the ****". I want the ability to get that kind of gain. I have a boss SD1 and that thing does nothing for me, i would like some suggestions.
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#2
If you aren't getting korn with a mg100fx you aren't doing it right.
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#3
http://www.robertkeeley.com/product.php?id=16

http://www.wamplerpedals.com/distortions/triple-wreck.html

Just beacuse I was thinking of those two for other reasons.

but I think you may want to "consider" your amp.
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#5
Step 1: Get a 6505.
Step 2: Put the gain on 4 and buy a Maxon OD808 (or any other TS, although I love my Maxon) and run it as a clean boost.
Step 3: Tune low, real low.
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#6
Quote by GS LEAD 5
Buy a new amp. Mg's are shit.

And Korn dont use that much gain- their thick low down tones come from using 7 string guitars.

+3,14

Instead of an fx pedal, just get a good amp.
KoRn's distortion is the typical Mesa Triple Recto distortion, which sounds even heavier due to the down tunings they use. You won't get that from an MG.
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+3,14

Instead of an fx pedal, just get a good amp.
KoRn's distortion is the typical Mesa Triple Recto distortion, which sounds even heavier due to the down tunings they use. You won't get that from an MG.


Good advice, although he didn't say he wanted the Korn tone, he only wanted their butload of gain. And no amp has more ridiculous gain than the 6505. If he can't get enough from that then something has to be wrong.

Plus, the 6505 is WAY cheaper than the Triple/Dual Recto. So it may be a tad more accessible to him.
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#8
Quote by Mopy
Good advice, although he didn't say he wanted the Korn tone, he only wanted their butload of gain. And no amp has more ridiculous gain than the 6505. If he can't get enough from that then something has to be wrong.

Plus, the 6505 is WAY cheaper than the Triple/Dual Recto. So it may be a tad more accessible to him.

I didn't suggest any specific amp.
I just said that what he's looking for is the typical Recto distortion, and that he won't get that from an MG.

That doesn't mean that he can't achieve it in a different way.
For example, a friend of mine gets that kind of tone from a Fender Twin Reverb using a "Dr. Boogie" DIY pedal.

You're trying too hard to advertise the 6505, mate.
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#9
Quote by Linkerman
I didn't suggest any specific amp.
I just said that what he's looking for is the typical Recto distortion, and that he won't get that from an MG.

That doesn't mean that he can't achieve it in a different way.
For example, a friend of mine gets that kind of tone from a Fender Twin Reverb using a "Dr. Boogie" DIY pedal.

You're trying too hard to advertise the 6505, mate.


I'm not advertising anything, sorry if it came off that way.

All I am doing is throwing in my $0.02 AUD on the subject. Also, I got my 6505 a few months ago and I'm still head over heels for it, can't help it man.
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#10
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#11
You'd be surprised how much gain bands DON'T use...

A fair amount of the "heaviness" has to do with tuning and string gauge (and, of course having a 7th string on your guitar) more than where the gain knob is set. That being said, the MG series aren't really known for having a very good gain channel.

You may be able to find a dirt pedal to run into the MG's clean channel that will do what you want, but I've never really used distortion pedals, so I'm afraid I won't be of much help there. The BOSS distortion pedals also get pretty bad ratings here on UG, but like I said, I really havent used one personally for more then a few minutes in the store playing around.

If you have some disposable income, I'd replace the MG with something better... But this being UG, that's what everyone will say to nearly any question if you mention that you have an MG or a spider.

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#12
Buy a Mesa and a 7 string. /troll

Like people said, gain isn't used that much at all. Just the tunings and the tempo really. Korn are slow and just heavy.

Another example is Stephen Carpenter and his 8 string. Guy doesn't use much gain but its the best tone I've heard live. And he uses guitar rig with a power amp!
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#13
A budget would be really helpful.

Best solution would be to get a good amp.

Budget solution would be to get a nice distortion pedal. Though with that route, you're still going to be limited on how good a tone you can get by your amp.
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even playing clean in drop z is more gain then playing through a wall of rectifiers in standard

??? wtf?
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even playing clean in drop z is more gain then playing through a wall of rectifiers in standard

Opeth would like to have a word with you. Tone has a massive effect on how heavy something sounds, arguable more so than tuning. I could have sworn this band Bison played in at least C, if not lower, for months' come to find out its only drop D, they just have a really gritty heavy tone.
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#17
If you are looking for a pedal the mxr fullbore is crazy insane in the gain dept. I have one and to me it is too much but as the others have said your amp is not the greatest in the world.
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#18
Low cost solutions
Pedal: Line 6 UBER METAL. Actually quite versatile.
Amp: Bugera 626x
If you get the amp, you don't need the pedal.
While the 6505 might cost 1/2 of a dual recto, the 626x costs 1/2 the 6505, and has all the gain. I preferred to run the 6262 without a clean boos. on the lead channel....it doesn't need it. Did use one on the crunch channel to have 2 different sounds there.
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Quote by Vinson
Low cost solutions
Pedal: Line 6 UBER METAL. Actually quite versatile.
Amp: Bugera 626x
If you get the amp, you don't need the pedal.
While the 6505 might cost 1/2 of a dual recto, the 626x costs 1/2 the 6505, and has all the gain. I preferred to run the 6262 without a clean boos. on the lead channel....it doesn't need it. Did use one on the crunch channel to have 2 different sounds there.


KoRn doesn't use loads of gain, that comes from their heavy down tunings.

+1 the Bugera 6262 sounds so close to the 6505+ and is a very good amp for the price. Get a good cab with it (I recommend a Mesa rectifier cab with Celesion V30's if you can afford one).

You won't need any pedals except possibly an OD pedal.
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#20
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even playing clean in drop z is more gain then playing through a wall of rectifiers in standard






everyone that took that seriously, please go find a sense of humor. because that made me lawl
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#21
Im referring to the song coming undone mostly when i am talking about insane gain. If you notice since you all seem to have noticed my amp model, i also do indeed have a 7 string. However thats not what i am referring to. Im really not a big fan of korn or their tone, i just was using that as an example. I would love to replace my amp. ive wanted a mesa triple rect, mark v or a bogner uberschall but im not planning to buy a new amp for a while. What i want right now is to just give my amp some gravel. I like the triple wreak. Sounds like it will do fine. Thanks.
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#22
So if you didn't like their tone why did you use theirs as an example?
Maybe you should go to a local music shop and try different amps/pedals and see what works. I used to think I needed my gain on my gt-10 (5150 preamp) at like 89 but I've lowered it to 25 and still have a high gain tone but less muddy and more clarity.

Make sure you run the pedal through the clean channel or else it's gonna sound like total poops
#24
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So if you didn't like their tone why did you use theirs as an example?


I think he's looking for a sound where there is so much distortion, its practically going mushy and fuzzing out.
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#25
You don't need a high distortion pedal. A jcm 800 might do the trick. No, but If you have too much distortion, it will be really fuzzy and you won't be to hear what notes you are playing.
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#26
a hughes and kettner warp factor will give you some nice chuggy bottom end sounds. I had one and its decent and also pretty uncommon, so has that nice value that you aren't gunna sound like everybody else. If you can get your hands on one, I'd at least give it a go
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