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#1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13912836

I looked at this and thought this was pretty cool.
There is WAY MORE info in the article, including an interview.

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The Lulz Security hacking group that has claimed attacks on high-profile targets including the CIA and Sony in recent weeks has exclusively told the BBC's Newsnight programme that it wants to target the "higher ups" who write the rules and "bring them down a few notches".
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#2
It's like they're trying to be the Boondock Saints of the internet.
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#3
In an online Q&A, Whirlpool, the spokesman for Lulzsec, who describes himself as "captain of the Lulz Boat", agreed that their goals now go beyond that: "Politically motivated ethical hacking is more fulfilling".


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#5
Why do these internet groups and movements always use anonymity as an excuse to talk like pompous fuckhats from cheesy sci fi thrillers
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#6
Quote by whalepudding
Why do these internet groups and movements always use anonymity as an excuse to talk like pompous fuckhats from cheesy sci fi thrillers

with a headbanging dual horn throwing avatar?

COME ON
#7
Quote by whalepudding
Why do these internet groups and movements always use anonymity as an excuse to talk like pompous fuckhats from cheesy sci fi thrillers


That's how they want to look. It was kinda funny at first, but it is border lining serious now. They're not doing anyone good by hacking these sites, and "testing security" is bullshit.
#8
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with a headbanging dual horn throwing avatar?

COME ON


/\ Exactly the kind of person we're talking about.
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with a headbanging dual horn throwing avatar?

COME ON

I forgot about that sci fi thriller where the villain was a headbanging cartoon man.
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#11
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That's how they want to look. It was kinda funny at first, but it is border lining serious now. They're not doing anyone good by hacking these sites, and "testing security" is bullshit.


+10000

They're so self-righteous about this, I fail to see how it is beneficial to anyone other than themselves nor do I fully understand or agree with their motives.
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I forgot about that sci fi thriller where the villain was a headbanging cartoon man.

well i fail to see the link between him going on about boats and piracy with sci fi

but what i was alluding to (obviously wasn't clear enough my bad) was this:
- he's presenting an image to the world no matter how silly or camp it is

- not that different from being a card carrying metal head over the internet is it?

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/\ Exactly the kind of person we're talking about.

wut?
#13
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+10000

They're so self-righteous about this, I fail to see how it is beneficial to anyone other than themselves nor do I fully understand or agree with their motives.


Well, I don't they are in it to really get anything substantial from it. They hacked a security firm who offered $10,000 to anyone one who could hack it, and when they did, they turned down the money.
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Quote by funeralllllllll
well i fail to see the link between him going on about boats and piracy with sci fi

but what i was alluding to (obviously wasn't clear enough my bad) was this:
- he's presenting an image to the world no matter how silly or camp it is

- not that different from being a card carrying metal head over the internet is it?

They just seem to always be trying their hand at cliche villain dialogue. A bloke from one of these movements came here and started saying things like "it would be unwise to cross us". The "we do not forgive" shite from the Scientology protests were equally cringeworthy. It's less like being a card-carrying metalhead, and more like trying to convince the internet that you're Skeletor.

And their ideologies always seem confused and vague. I can't imagine this benefiting the world in any way. It seems more like they thought hacking government websites would be fun, and cobbled together some pseudo-revolutionary rhetoric to pretend that it's anything more worthwhile than spray-painting a cock on a government building.

Maybe there's some master plan and I've missed it, correct me if there is, but that's the impression I've got so far.
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#16
also they take credit for everything
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#17
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Well, I don't they are in it to really get anything substantial from it. They hacked a security firm who offered $10,000 to anyone one who could hack it, and when they did, they turned down the money.

Idiots. They could've taken the $10,000 and donated it to charities or orphanages. Complete fools.
#18
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They just seem to always be trying their hand at cliche villain dialogue. A bloke from one of these movements came here and started saying things like "it would be unwise to cross us". The "we do not forgive" shite from the Scientology protests were equally cringeworthy. It's less like being a card-carrying metalhead, and more like trying to convince the internet that you're Skeletor.

And their ideologies always seem confused and vague. I can't imagine this benefiting the world in any way. It seems more like they thought hacking government websites would be fun, and cobbled together some pseudo-revolutionary rhetoric to pretend that it's anything more worthwhile than spray-painting a cock on a government building.

Maybe there's some master plan and I've missed it, correct me if there is, but that's the impression I've got so far.

yeah in this case i think lulzsec in particular may just be jumping onto the antisec bandwagon for extra fame and to legitimise some of their more questionable actions

you can't take the whole anonymous thing too seriously, there are a few guys who pretty much frame their world view through 4chan rimmed glasses and carry the mindset over into the rest of society where they just come across as a massive weirdo

i never watched heman so i can't comment on that, cliché villain dialogue makes the world go around however and i have a lot of time for it
#19
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Our hit on the Arizona police was to expose the corruption and racial profiling of their battle fleet.


This ****in sailor jokes are pathetic... the guy even goes by the ****in name whirlpool!!

Where are these kids parents? They needa pull these kids outta their goddamn basements and rooms and get their kids jobs and lives cause it's not as if their motives and causes are all of a sudden bringing 'justice' or 'balance' to the world.
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#20
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also they take credit for everything

yeah like when they denied hacking the census data and when they said that it wasn't them who ddos'd the sun or the times.

I think you might be confusing 'taking credit for' and 'being blamed for'.
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#22
The interview was over when the spokesman's mom grounded him from the internet.
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#23
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#24


These guys are a funny bunch. I honestly have no idea how old they are, some of their little plots seem to be from the mind of a script kiddie, while others are obviously better thought out, and they haven't been successfully tracked... Huh.
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take them down a few notches


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#27
Wow. The way he talked about being on a "lulz boat" and called the Arizona police a "battle fleet" was pathetic. That's something a 11 year old would do pretending to be jack sparrow.

They think they're doing the right thing, but they're just making the middle class suffer, the people who work for the "corrupt overseers". They will end up doing nothing except making powerful websites strengthening their web security. Do they actually think they will be able to achieve their objectives? That's like a criminal going on a crime spree in order to try and stop the government from doing certain things. Actually that's exactly what they're doing. Is the government just going to stop and be like "oh, ok, well cede to your demands? No. They're just going to be annoyed that one of their websites are going to be down for 2 hours.
#28
Wtf does anyone take these clowns seriously? Hacking the CIA and Sony is hardly something noteworthy. You hacked the government and a large corporation. Both Sony & the CIA may vaunt their security. However, in the real world, neither of those 2 entities have good security. But hey...let's interview Lulzsec.
#29
Copyright laws - a no-no. Copywrong is a constant enemy of the seas.


So they expect musicians, writers, painters, etc. to earn no money?
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#30
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Why do these internet groups and movements always use anonymity as an excuse to talk like pompous fuckhats from cheesy sci fi thrillers


I agree with you, I don't need an excuse to talk like that either
#31
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Wtf does anyone take these clowns seriously? Hacking the CIA and Sony is hardly something noteworthy. You hacked the government and a large corporation. Both Sony & the CIA may vaunt their security. However, in the real world, neither of those 2 entities have good security. But hey...let's interview Lulzsec.

I didn't expect the CIA website or a Sony service that stores credit card data to have security that can be penetrated by a high school hacker. Then again, I don't know how difficult it is to hack into these sorts of things, but I thought that something that stores personal info would be reasonably well protected.

Also, how are they able to achieve all this publicity without anyone tracking them down?
#34
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So they expect musicians, writers, painters, etc. to earn no money?

the current system is shit. the work done and effort put in =/= the money earned. you make one cd and you can earn millions from it because everyone buys the exact same one thing but a machine has made it possible to reproduce it to the point where it's like you've done all that work millions of times.
i'm not denying that people put their lives into their art but it doesn't warrant millions of $$ because of advertising/luck (and yes, having genius is luck).
it's like if the guy who came up with the paper fucking clip decided to charge for it, he'd be a billionaire (or his grandkids would or w/e). it's genius but it doesn't make him worthy of billions unless he personally handmade every paper clip in existence.
one of the richest men in england is famous for the way we fold a milk carton. it's ridiculous.
copyright laws have corrupted us and that's why it's so hard to move as a society. it's all just everyone paying for the same thing and others earning money as if they've given their art/product to each individual person.

i don't mind doing music on the side and earning no money from it because it's art; an expression of how i feel, not a way to benefit society.

and as for bringing down corrupt police - i'm all for it.
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#35
Man, if I wrote a book or something, I don't want somebody else taking credit for it. That's why we have copyright laws.
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Man, if I wrote a book or something, I don't want somebody else taking credit for it. That's why we have copyright laws.


But copyright laws have gone beyond basic protection to ensuring profit by stifling creativity. They're no longer here for protecting individual's creations, we have the creative commons now. Copyrights are here so record companies can suck as much money from artists as they can, from every possible way. Creative commons still allows you to sell your music and take credit, others just have to give you credit if they use pieces of your stuff, as opposed to having to go through a whole bunch of bull with copyrights.

Current copyright laws=bad.


Hell, the tabs on this site are a prime example. In order to maximize profits on their tab books, they're taking down tabs on this site as a breach on intellectual property, when tabs are a prime learning resource for guitarists.
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#37
I appreciate that they care about "freedoms". But copyright laws are a good thing.
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Quote by element4433
Man, if I wrote a book or something, I don't want somebody else taking credit for it. That's why we have copyright laws.

they basically rip off each other now and use basic formulas anyway.
harry potter was just star wars with a few basic changes.
a lot of books aren't that original. i mean, have you seen jamie oliver's cook book?

the good is obviously that if you do something, someone can't replicate it exactly and steal all the credit for your hard work. however, it's a bit unfortunate if two people come up with the fundamentals of calculus and write a book on it around the same time.

the bad is that if you make something, you can charge people every time they want to use/see/listen to that one thing and nobody can make anything that's any cheaper because it's been copyrighted.
sky sports broadcast one game of football and have millions of people pay individually to watch that one match.

copyright needs sorting out basically.
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#39
I want to point out that their is a huge difference between a 'front' website that Lulzsec hacked and the private secure site that is used to handle internal communications/intel at the CIA. I highly doubt that the CIA database is even connected to any kind of network.

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they basically rip off each other now and use basic formulas anyway.


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#40
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yeah like when they denied hacking the census data and when they said that it wasn't them who ddos'd the sun or the times.

I think you might be confusing 'taking credit for' and 'being blamed for'.

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