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Obviously this topic has has been brought up many times, but I wanted to experience some new outlooks on it.

Is anyone in the Pit for censorship? I myself am completely against it, but I felt it would be interesting to read any differing opinions.

Discuss.
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And obviously I think censorship is bad, m'kay?

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#5
At first I thought you meant the censoring of curses on UG, and I was ready to be all like, "Dude, they don't give a shit just type size=2 brackets around one of the letters in the word!"


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Yes and no, but it ought to be at the discrepancy of each individual rather than blanket censorship.


You're looking for "discretion"

Discrepancy means something is inconsistent.

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#7
I am Completely against censorship, I absolutely despise it and it goes against our first amendment.
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Only asshats would argue in favor of censorship.


Once again, only playing Devil's Advocate here, but what about in the case of young children?
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You're looking for "discretion"

Discrepancy means something is inconsistent.

You got the gist.

Point is, there are positive aspects of censorship, as well as the bad ones that people tend to focus on.

For example, if the Aus Gov't gave up it's stupid mandatory filter in place of an opt-in censorship model, I would have no issue with it.
#12
I am strongly in favor of censorship. Obviously a group of undereducated housewives and geriatrics who still think sock hops are risque know what I should be exposed to. I certainly can't decide for myself.
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Once again, only playing Devil's Advocate here, but what about in the case of young children?

Age restrictions. If their parents want to blame something more than that then they are assholes.
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Depends on what kind of censorship we are talking about here. News and information should, in my opinion, never be censored or adulterated. Violent films being censored for kids, that's another matter.
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Once again, only playing Devil's Advocate here, but what about in the case of young children?



I do not believe that censorship (in music, at least) does much to protect young children from obscene content. You can bleep a word, put "tv fuzz" over someone's privates, or edit a particular sequence or two within a scene, but the overall theme will still get through to them. I figure the child might as well appreciate the artistic piece in it's most natural form, and that is a lesson I would love to pass down to my future offspring!
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#19
I am not for censorship. I lean toward anarchy but that has flaws, as well.
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#20
What about social censorship? (A term I just completely and drunkenly made up.) If a certain society (the U.S. for example) will not elect a politician simply because he drops an f bomb in a speech, do you feel that is wrong? Or is it the duty of a politician to be classier than that?
#21
Yea, I think that would be wrong. However, I don't think any politician has a duty to be classy. They're all pretty much scumbags if you really look at them.
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#22
I think censorship has it's merits.

I mean, let's be honest, if there's one thing our society needs, more than ever, it's stability. And I mean that in both the political and the moral sense.

Politically, we can't afford revolutionary ideas. Not right now. The economy is in the shitter, patriotism is at an all-time low, and we need to unite as a country if we are going to get through this. If that means silencing some nay-sayers, then so be it. We need to consider the needs of the majority over the rights of the minority, when times are dire enough. And trust me, things are BAD. We must be practical, not idealistic, in our dealings with things like censorship.

That necessity for unity carries over to the ideals of morality that the citizens of this country (should) share. Things like perversion, homosexuality, swearing, vulgarity and violence NEED to be quelled if this country is ever going to survive. We cannot, as a nation, forgo our Christian roots, else I can promise you we will go the way of Britain, Europe, and the like. This country succeeded all these years thanks, in large part, to our moral and political unity and our roots in traditional, conservative ideals.

Yes, censorship is necessary. Of COURSE it's necessary. Anyone that says otherwise is a starry-eyed idealist.


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#25
I support censorship and also believe that it occurs in every society to at least some degree, even liberal ones.
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I support censorship and also believe that it occurs in every society to at least some degree, even liberal ones.


This is what I was looking for. Can you support your views in a more specific manner/ provide examples of censorship that is appropriate/effective?
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#29
Political censorship: It has absolutely no place, no merit, and no benefits. I can't think of a more idiotic idea than for a government to hide things from its citizens that they have every right to know.

Censorship in things like music/movies/videogames/books etc.: I'm not in favor of that either. For kids, it should be left up to the parents what they want their kids exposed to. I think a simple "Viewer Discretion Advised" warning would suffice for most any situation. The "Parental Advisory" sticker on CD cases is a prime example of something done right. If the parents don't care, that should be the end of it.

Just my little opinion on the subject.

Edit: I actually did a persuasive speech on "Government Censorship" for my Speech class my first semester of college. I got an A.
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#30
C*ns*rsh*p, lol.

Obviously, censorship is somewhat sensible when it comes to children watchnig sensitive stuff. But then, not letting kids watch said sensitive stuff in the first place is more sensible.

It's not like uncensored materials are difficult to find, anyway.

Children are becoming more and more desensitized as well.

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I am Completely against censorship, I absolutely despise it and it goes against our first amendment.


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#33
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I am Completely against censorship, I absolutely despise it and it goes against our first amendment.


Or First Amendment rights only protect against government censorship.

As for private citizens, it's completely up to them. For example: This forum. There are rule against posting of certain threads. That's perfectly fine.

Also, if they post new rules tomorrow saying "no swearing, no Justin Beiber post, and no Cannibal Corpse references. That would be fine as well.

It's their website, they can run it how they want. Same with any private citizen doing anything.

This is not censorship, You can start your own forum with whatever rules you like. You are not prevented from anything.


Government Censorship and Free Speech:

Hate to burst your bubble but there are tons of "speech" that is prohibited by law (and should be).

Such as:


Defamation (slander and libel)

Product defamation (criticism of commercial products; sometimes called product libel or product disparagement; for example, the Texas False Disparagement of Perishable Food Products Act)

Obscenity

Lying in court (perjury)

Talking out of turn during a trial, or talk that causes contempt of court

Speaking about a trial outside the court room after the judge forbids it (subjudicy).

Speaking publicly without a permit (Speeches/performance on public streets without permit)

Limits on the size of public demonstrations

Profanity on television

Hate speech that is defamatory or causes incitement to violence

Noise pollution

Speech that contains a copyright infringement

Company secrets (trade secrets), such as how a product is made or company strategy (Example: Seven herbs and spices of KFC chicken)

Political secrets: campaign strategies, etc.

Classified information: sensitive or secret to protect the national interest.

Lies that cause a crowd to panic or causes Clear and present danger or Imminent lawless action, such as Shouting fire in a crowded theater

Fighting words doctrine: (U.S. 1942) "insulting or 'fighting words', those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace"

Sedition: speech or organization (vs Freedom of Assembly) that is deemed as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws.

Treason: to talk publicly of the death of all countrymen or the overthrow of the government


Would you support people's right's to break the above laws?

If you are for some of them but against others, why? They are all limits on speech.
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#34
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I support censorship and also believe that it occurs in every society to at least some degree, even liberal ones.



Didn't see that one coming

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#35
censoring curse words --> couldn't care less

Question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwyZ0ji1GRU
Is preaching like this prohibited?


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#36
I think that any ideas that aren't mine should be censored for the good of me.
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#37
I'm against censorship when it comes to news and other media outlets and art. But do i want 6-10 year old children flicking past channels on the tv and coming across a porn flick? Hell no, i would want it to be censored. Before you give me that bullshit on how it's the parents responsibility to moniter that type of stuff, I don't know how it is in other countries, but in America most parents are working from 9 am to 5 in the evening. thats considering that the parent doesn't work two jobs to sustain themselves in this terrible economy.

My point is that there needs to be censorship of obvious shit like porn and EXCESSIVE profanity. It really irks me when I hear people say there should be no such thing as censorship.
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