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#1
Hey guys, So I'm 6'4 and 250-270. I want to be skinny, im sick of being overweight. Currently I work a hard labor job cleaning apartments, I carry alot of heavy things, and walk around the complexes alot, on top of this i am starting intense workouts with my football coach for mon, wed, fri every week for the summer untill football season starts, for an hour in a half each day (the workouts are), What should i do for my diet, I'm going to stop eating so much and drink alot more water and eat more fruit, but i just really want to be skinny, i am so sick of being chubby/fat and I want to be skinny for when i get done with my last season of football and when i get out into the real world to pursue my career and want to be skinny and in descent shape, thanks guys
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#2
I don't want to be skinny. Wanna share some of that fat?
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do what i do
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#4
Try eating only organic food and drink only water.

Organic food, not because it's necessarily healthier, but because they don't make mcdonald's or dunkin donuts in organic.
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#5
Just stick to a healthy diet (salads with minimal dressing, lean meat if you're going to continue with red meat, fish, chicken, for example) and a regular exercise routine (which it looks like you're already doing) and you should get great results. Look into high intensity interval training (HIIT) as well.
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#6
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Try eating only organic food and drink only water.

Organic food, not because it's necessarily healthier, but because they don't make mcdonald's or dunkin donuts in organic.

i rarely eat fast food or shit like that it makes me sick and i hate it but alright i will start eating more organic
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#7
u can also take protein shakes. they help give muscles some nutrients they need and they also help metabolize and burn fat
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u can also take protein shakes. they help give muscles some nutrients they need and they also help metabolize and burn fat

They also provide massive calories, and are generally used for gaining mass, not losing it.
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Just stick to a healthy diet (salads with minimal dressing, lean meat if you're going to continue with red meat, fish, chicken, for example) and a regular exercise routine (which it looks like you're already doing) and you should get great results. Look into high intensity interval training (HIIT) as well.

alright man, and yea im cutting back on the meats, and ill look into it, i think i just need basically more exercise (which im doing) and eating better
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#10
Go to Nutrition and exercise thread. The above posters are idiots.

In my opinion, cut most carbs, especially High Fructose Corn Syrup, eat high protein, moderate to low carbs, and low fats with a calorie deficit. Exercise every other day.
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A pound of fat is 3500 stored calories. You need a calorie deficit. So, lets say right now you were to cut 500 calories a day, each week you would loose a pound of fat. Depending on how much you eat, you could even cut down 1000 per day. Eating healthy will not matter if you still eat a shit ton. Learn how to read nutrional values on food and that will help you.

And keep up with the exercise.
#13
Organic foods often tend to fill you up easier and keep you from feeling hungry longer. And you'll never be skinny, especially with the kind of stuff you're doing. You'll be fit, though, and that's much better. And, of course, girls don't normally want to date a stick, so being 'skinny' isn't a great goal, haha.
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Go to Nutrition and exercise thread. The above posters are idiots.

In my opinion, cut most carbs, especially High Fructose Corn Syrup, eat high protein, moderate to low carbs, and low fats with a calorie deficit. Exercise every other day.

God dammit i hate it when people say this. Don't put limits on yourself.
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Instead of 2-3 large meals. Eat 3 reasonably portion controlled and healthy meals, and a healthy snack in between each one.
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A pound of fat is 3500 stored calories. You need a calorie deficit. So, lets say right now you were to cut 500 calories a day, each week you would loose a pound of fat. Depending on how much you eat, you could even cut down 1000 per day. Eating healthy will not matter if you still eat a shit ton. Learn how to read nutrional values on food and that will help you.

And keep up with the exercise.

No, if you were to cut 500 calories from your caloric maintenance level, you would lose weight. If you only need 2500 calories to maintain your weight, and you normally eat 3500, you'll still gain weight if you cut 500 calories and eat 3000 a day.
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#17
i didnt mean skinny like that, just like not fat or chubby haha, and yea i think its the shit i eat, i think i just got to eat healthier and less, well starting tommorow im going to try really hard, cause im sick of this thanks guys
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God dammit i hate it when people say this. Don't put limits on yourself.


Yeah you're right. He should be put on a program of some power cleans, front squats, deadlifts, and snatches. An AM and PM routine, upper/lower split, with a Heavy/Medium/High weight rotation on a weekly basis.

It's better to start off slower and easier since he is not experienced. And there is nothing wrong with working out 3.5 days a week.
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Quote by Alexander_BR
A pound of fat is 3500 stored calories. You need a calorie deficit. So, lets say right now you were to cut 500 calories a day, each week you would loose a pound of fat. Depending on how much you eat, you could even cut down 1000 per day. Eating healthy will not matter if you still eat a shit ton. Learn how to read nutrional values on food and that will help you.

And keep up with the exercise.



the way you worded that was a bit misleading


if you're eating 5000 calories a day and cut 500 your still going to keep gaining weight


burning the calories so you dont store them is a better way to think of it.

instead of just decreasing calories, exercising AND decreasing calories so you meet in the middle is more realistic.


you can eat a shit ton and exercise a shit ton,

eat barely anything and hardly exercise,

or eat slightly less and exercise more.


the latter is the best choice.
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Yeah you're right. He should be put on a program of some power cleans, front squats, deadlifts, and snatches. An AM and PM routine, upper/lower split, with a Heavy/Medium/High weight rotation on a weekly basis.

It's better to start off slower and easier since he is not experienced. And there is nothing wrong with working out 3.5 days a week.

If he can handle it, why not? Limiting yourself in any way is dumb, listen to your body and you'll know when and how much to work.
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#22
Well I did say calorie deficit, but I suppose lingo isn't the best thing right now.

Also foods high in fiber and fats increase satiety (which is how full you feel) compared to other sources at the same amount of calories. So you would feel full faster with less food. So go for whole grains and stuff like that.
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They also provide massive calories, and are generally used for gaining mass, not losing it.


completely false. gainer shakes do. not normal protein shakes. the ones i take have 120 calories. and since he is playing football he will be burning way more calories. not only will he cut fat he will put on muscle (not bodybuilder huge muscles either)

and u guys are forgetting that he has intense football workouts. the "low-carb" diets are bullshit btw. if you are working out and exerting a lot of energy, ur body needs carbs for energy.
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#24
i just want to cut like 50-70 pounds guys between now and the end of football season (early november) and eat right and when football season starts its 5 days a week starting the beginning of september
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completely false. gainer shakes do. not normal protein shakes. the ones i take have 120 calories. and since he is playing football he will be burning way more calories. not only will he cut fat he will put on muscle (not bodybuilder huge muscles either)


A half scoop of most of the protein powders out there are more than enough for the body. Most people get way too much protein as it is.

One thing that always helped me was to eat a diet high in good carbs, good fats, and low to mild in protein.

I eat a lot of Avocados, tuna, artichokes, whole grain pastas, etc. Also, if your going to eat anything that has oil in it try to replace it with olive oil. Eat plenty of various colored greens. The upside to all of that was that it kept me full much longer. Eating the right kind of carb is great in helping you towards this goal since they don't break down immediately.

And meats don't have to be your main course at meals. I've lost a bit of weight just by significantly reducing the amount of meats that I eat.

And sodas.... have to go. Anything other than water, milk, and some juices that aren't high in sugar have to go.

Eat smaller meals too if you can help it, and get enough fiber. I tend to eat some fruit or yogurt for snacks in between the meals. It keeps me full and I don't go to my next meal prepared to eat a cow.

EDIT: your probably aiming to high for your weight loss goals though. Try something like 20-30 in that time period. If you lose weight too fast you can run into a number of other problems.
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A half scoop of most of the protein powders out there are more than enough for the body. Most people get way too much protein as it is.

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A half scoop of most of the protein powders out there are more than enough for the body. Most people get way too much protein as it is.

One thing that always helped me was to eat a diet high in good carbs, good fats, and low to mild in protein.

I eat a lot of Avocados, tuna, artichokes, whole grain pastas, etc. Also, if your going to eat anything that has oil in it try to replace it with olive oil. Eat plenty of various colored greens. The upside to all of that was that it kept me full much longer. Eating the right kind of carb is great in helping you towards this goal since they don't break down immediately.

And meats don't have to be your main course at meals. I've lost a bit of weight just by significantly reducing the amount of meats that I eat.

And sodas.... have to go. Anything other than water, milk, and some juices that aren't high in sugar have to go.

Eat smaller meals too if you can help it, and get enough fiber. I tend to eat some fruit or yogurt for snacks in between the meals. It keeps me full and I don't go to my next meal prepared to eat a cow.

EDIT: your probably aiming to high for your weight loss goals though. Try something like 20-30 in that time period. If you lose weight too fast you can run into a number of other problems.


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Rage.


Yeah most people freak out about that.

I noticed that with a half scoop of protein powder and some sort of fruit or vegetable high in good fats my body recovers so much faster from a tough work out.

Oh... and CARDIO. Do Interval cardio one you get used to running.

Walk/Jog for a minute or so
Run as hard as you can for a minute or so
repeat cycle for awhile.

You can adjust the time period of both steps to suit you. In the beginning I walked/jogged for 2 and ran for 1. Now I do both at 1.
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A half scoop of most of the protein powders out there are more than enough for the body. Most people get way too much protein as it is.

One thing that always helped me was to eat a diet high in good carbs, good fats, and low to mild in protein.

I eat a lot of Avocados, tuna, artichokes, whole grain pastas, etc. The upside to all of that was that it kept me full much longer. Eating the right kind of carb is great in helping you towards this goal since they don't break down immediately.

Eat smaller meals too if you can help it, and get enough fiber. I tend to eat some fruit or yogurt for snacks in between the meals. It keeps me full and I don't go to my next meal prepared to eat a cow.

EDIT: your probably aiming to high for your weight loss goals though. Try something like 20-30 in that time period. If you lose weight too fast you can run into a number of other problems.


once again (to the bold part) its false. Most protein shakes contain 25-35 grams in one serving. (yes, there are protein shakes that have much more but are generally intended for use throughout the day and not at one time) The average human body can process up to 40 grams at one time. Someone who is looking to lose fat and also build stronger muscles generally need to consume .9-1 gram of protein per lean pound of body weight throughout the day.

someone with exceptionally low body fat that weighs 160 lbs should consume 160 grams throughout the day (not just in protein shakes but in other foods as well) if they want to have to build strength and lean mass.

If all this guy wants to do is lose fat and not build strength then a much smaller amount protein will help in metabolizing and burning fat along with a proper diet and workout schedule.

protein consumption is based on your goal

and yes i agree with you about the carbs. carbs are great especially when exercising. and of course in moderation.
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Less carbs. More running. More water.
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once again (to the bold part) its false. Most protein shakes contain 25-35 grams in one serving. (yes, there are protein shakes that have much more but are generally intended for use throughout the day and not at one time) The average human body can process up to 40 grams at one time. Someone who is looking to lose fat and also build stronger muscles generally need to consume .9-1 gram of protein per lean pound of body weight throughout the day.

someone with exceptionally low body fat that weighs 160 lbs should consume 160 grams throughout the day (not just in protein shakes but in other foods as well) if they want to have to build strength and lean mass.

If all this guy wants to do is lose fat and not build strength then a much smaller amount protein will help in metabolizing and burning fat along with a proper diet and workout schedule.


and yes i agree with you about the carbs. carbs are great especially when exercising. and of course in moderation.


Way too much protein. Your supposed to get right about 1/2 gram of protein per lb. Roughly 15% of your diet should be protein.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

If you are trying to gain muscle mass then about 20% of your diet should be composed of protein. If your eating a lot more than this then your pumping toxins into your body.

And that is why you eat good carbs. Refined carbs are basically sugar to the body. Other good carbs like whole grains last longer as it takes longer to break them down.
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#35

You already seem to be trying, so that's good. One thing I've noticed is that a lot of people who talk about losing weight and wanting to be skinny, but never get skinny; it's because they do absolutely nothing. So as long as you are doing everything in your power to lose weight and listening to advice and looking up stuff on your own, you should be good.
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Way too much protein. Your supposed to get right about 1/2 gram of protein per lb. Roughly 15% of your diet should be protein.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

If you are trying to gain muscle mass then about 20% of your diet should be composed of protein. If your eating a lot more than this then your pumping toxins into your body.

And that is why you eat good carbs. Refined carbs are basically sugar to the body. Other good carbs like whole grains last longer as it takes longer to break them down.


All carbs are sugar to the body....... strong biochemistry knowledge

I guess all athletes are doing it wrong then.
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Way too much protein. Your supposed to get right about 1/2 gram of protein per lb. Roughly 15% of your diet should be protein.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

If you are trying to gain muscle mass then about 20% of your diet should be composed of protein. If your eating a lot more than this then your pumping toxins into your body.

Bullshit.
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Way too much protein. Your supposed to get right about 1/2 gram of protein per lb. Roughly 15% of your diet should be protein.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

If you are trying to gain muscle mass then about 20% of your diet should be composed of protein. If your eating a lot more than this then your pumping toxins into your body.

And that is why you eat good carbs. Refined carbs are basically sugar to the body. Other good carbs like whole grains last longer as it takes longer to break them down.

I disagree with almost everything in this post. Seriously, one gram per pound is excellent for keeping your muscles during a cut.

This study advocates about 30grams per meal for hypertrophy: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19699838

Carbs are still carbs, whether they're complex or not. Good for quick(ish) energy, but go to fat way too easily. I like mine to come in the form of fruits, vegetables and greek yogurt. No gluten at all.

Fats are high in calories, but do a ton of important things.

In conclusion. 50% protein 25% carbs 25% fats
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#39
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Quote by XgamerGt04
Way too much protein. Your supposed to get right about 1/2 gram of protein per lb. Roughly 15% of your diet should be protein.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

If you are trying to gain muscle mass then about 20% of your diet should be composed of protein. If your eating a lot more than this then your pumping toxins into your body.

And that is why you eat good carbs. Refined carbs are basically sugar to the body. Other good carbs like whole grains last longer as it takes longer to break them down.


This is true for someone that isn't looking to build a decent amount of muscle.

Once again. Protein consumption is based on your goal.

If you consume 1 gram per lean mass bodyweight but you are not "using" it. It can be dangerous. But if you are lifting heavily (and in football, u usually are) or using alot of energy from the muscles u need generally 1 gram of protein per pound of lean mass weight if you are wanting to build gains in strength and muscle

Someone who is just looking to lose fat and NOT put on muscle should consume the amount u r suggesting.

Someone looking to put on serious gains of muscle need much more protein then what you suggested

TS didnt say if he wanted to just lose fat or say he wanted to lose fat and gain muscle so...we are both right in our own ways.
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