#1
I'm looking for a guitar that will:

- last me a while (5+ years at least) of good service

- be of good enough quality that I won't have to worry about annoying things like weak tuning pegs, constant fret buzz, bad wood, or dodgy wiring (I know you can replace them but it's an unwanted hassle).

- withstand daily playing without it getting worn out I suppose.

I'm not going to be using it to play in bands or on stage or anything like that. I'll use it to record songs, maybe play and upload to YouTube. In short I'm a hobby-guitarist but one that takes it seriously.


So how much would I be needing to spend to get a guitar, keeping in mind what I've written above? Financially I'll probably be able to afford any guitar as high as €700 (or the $ equivalent thereof) give or take a bit. I've still got time to save up mind you.


Is there much difference between a €400 and a €700 guitar of the same brand? Would a guitar for €400 be good enough? I don't want to spend more than necessary if the differences are not that big.

The guitar I'll get WILL be of one of the following brands: ESP, Jackson, BC Rich.


THANKS A LOT!!!
#3
Get what is good for you feal/sound. The longjevity of the guitar is up to you I had a 96 Squire Tele and I sold it about 2 yrs ago and it was in great shap, but I always keep my guitars polished and in cases. So if you take care of it it will take care of you
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#5
Quote by SilverSpurs616
number of frets? body style? bridge type/tremolo? number of strings? pickup config and type?



Frets don't matter... 22/24
Body style... preferably explorer.
No bridge... I don't like tremolo bridges at all.
6 string.
H/H.


I'm not asking for a referral to a guitar but rather how much I should spend on buying a new guitar.
#6
Quote by Akula KO
Frets don't matter... 22/24
Body style... preferably explorer.
No bridge... I don't like tremolo bridges at all.
6 string.
H/H.


I'm not asking for a referral to a guitar but rather how much I should spend on buying a new guitar.



How the hell do you have a guitar with no bridge?

But are you willing to go used? I probably should have read all of the OP and not just skimmed it.

Edit: 700 Euros is about 1000 Dollars, for anyone who needs to know.
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#7
Totally up to you, and what kind of quality you're looking for. In most cases, you get what you paid for, so the higher up your price cap you pay, the happier you'll probably end up being. I'm a hobby guitarist as well, and I've spent about $700.00 CAN on a guitar.
#8
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I'm a hobby guitarist as well, and I've spent about $700.00 CAN on a guitar.


Do you feel it was worth it?
#9
Quote by chadreed32
How the hell do you have a guitar with no bridge?

But are you willing to go used?



Sorry, I've been drinking a bit. A TOM bridge is fine but I meant no tremolos. New, no exception.
#10
Just to meet your requirements....around 70 should be good. You can get a cheap ESP bullet for that price. The higher you go, the better quality you'll get so you have to decide on a budget. Regarding longevity, any guitar will last if you take care of it.

If you don't mind me asking, why specify ESP, Jackson or BC Rich. Especially in the latter, you'll probably be paying alot for the shape/design of the guitar.
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#11
Quote by JKHC
around 70 should be good.


Did you mean 700, because if you mean 70 then that guitar surely would be worse than the one I've got now.


Quote by JKHC
If you don't mind me asking, why specify ESP, Jackson or BC Rich. Especially in the latter, you'll probably be paying alot for the shape/design of the guitar.

I love ESP guitars. I've always heard good things about them regarding sound, quality, electronics, etc.
Jackson seems okay from the quick look I took at their page.
BC Rich... yeah, simply I just like the shape. It may sound petty but I think it is important that you are attracted to your guitar (kind of how attraction is important with a lover) and I like weird guitar shapes. I'm not a LP or Strat fan.
#12
Take a look at epiphone explorers
Second hand Ibanez Destroyers
ESP EX/FX
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#13
Decent hard tail Jackson Kelly = well over 1000 Euro
Decent hard tail BC RICH Explorer = custom jobby, loads of money.
Decent hard tail ESP/LTD = EX400/401 about 450-700 Euro.

Simple enough.

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#14
Those are good questions. Basically, once you get at about $240 or above, you start to separate yourself away from the complete junk category. You could still find a clunker, but the brands that care about quality start to make their presence more known.

$475-800 is exactly somewhat of a mysterious category. It's not always easily demonstrable that a $625 guitar is better than a $550 guitar.

Once you are in that price category, think in terms of the *style* of guitar. Your biggest mistake probably won't be quality. It will be whether you chose humbuckers instead of single coils, or the other way around. Or whether or not you should have gotten a Floyd Rose or a fixed bridge. Or should you get a very thin neck instead of a more rounded neck.

If you select from a good name brand in that category, you should get a perfectly respectable guitar with fine reliability. It's whether you bought a goose, when you should have bought a duck. That kind of thing.

Maybe taking a few 30 minute trips to the store before you decide. Play a few, go home. Go back next week, play a few, go home. Your ideas will form that way.
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#15
How much 700 euros is worth the guitar depends on the guitar. Here are a few that fit your bill in that price range (in the $1000> range) which spec-wise, to me is worth it. It's up to you to try them out and see which feels/sounds best to you.

BC Rich:
http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars/Stealth/Stealth-NT/169
http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars/Mockingbird/Mockingbird-Archtop/63
http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars/Warlock/Pro-X-Warlock/175

Any of the Bich models out now, aside form the Steve Smyth sig.

ESP:
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars/ltd-standard-deluxe/ex-360.html
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars/ltd-standard-deluxe/ex-401fm.html
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars/ltd-standard-deluxe/fx-360sm.html
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/ex/E-EX-92D.html
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/ex/E-EX-110D.html

Jackson:
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/products.php?group=Rhoads-Body&page=1&product=2913002803
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/products.php?group=Soloist-Body&page=1&product=2910104803
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/products.php?group=Dinky-Body&page=1&product=2911006803
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/products.php?group=Dinky-Body&page=1&product=2910101803

There's some axes in your price range that I would say are worth the cost. The Jackson Dinkys I would be less confident with simply because they're bolt-on Soloists. Neck-through guitars feel nicer to me personally, but you may feel different.

Find at least half of these to try out and decide if they're worth the cash to you
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#16
Quote by Akula KO
Did you mean 700, because if you mean 70 then that guitar surely would be worse than the one I've got now.



I was trying to prove a point by saying that as long as you take care of your guitar, it will last. Thats how there are so many cheap (back then) squiers from the 70's and 80's. Any guitar should easily last 5+ years if you take care of it.
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She will join the prom.

She insists to wear this lights.

I don't think so.

How can I persuade her?
#18
In 9/10 cases, odd BC Rich out. The other case would be if you were to change their crappy stock pups. Yes, they suck bigtime

ESP's are cool ( you could get a Kirk Hammet signature model with that kind of money - good pups for the money). Jacksons are pretty much starters IMO, since they don't retain value and I don't like 'em =] . BUT, I really suggest you getting a second hand Gibson SG ( or LP, but I hate them). They retain value and shine in anyone's hands. It's your money, so think for yourself for the final decision.
#19
Quote by Akula KO
New, no exception.

Any particular reason? You can get far better stuff for the same money used.
#20
Quote by smb
Any particular reason? You can get far better stuff for the same money used.

Call me corny but I think a guitar is a personal thing, like clothes. It's something you and learn and grow on, take care of. It would bug me if I knew it was used. My guitar has to be an unspoiled virgin


To the other users who listed all those guitars. You completely got what I meant. Thanks so much for the help! I'm happy now.
Last edited by Akula KO at Jul 11, 2011,
#21
if u want an explorer shape why not go with the original? gibson explorer (used)....thought its not in your preferred list of brands try expanding
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