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#2
I used to be talented at maths but couldn't write for shit, now I'm shit and maths and can't write for shit.
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I used to be talented at maths but couldn't write for shit, now I'm shit and maths and can't write for shit.

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#4
Tool's Lateralus is a great example of this. Sure, there's all that Fibonacci stuff, but if you read the lyrics, I think it implies that... who gives a shit. The math is there but does it really matter?
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#5
I use math when I write music, but it's basic math. I don't really see what the big deal is
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#7
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Sprang to mind.

Everything in music is based on patterns. Unless you're into Experimental John Cage Bath-tub-music stuff with amplified cacti etc etc. Yeah, I said that right.
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#8
I was quite good at maths at school. Also took maths and physics for further studies but it proved too much for my tiny brain.
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#9
Only really need to be able to count to 4, 90% of the time in music.
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#10
Interesting article, made a good read. I have heard that they use exactly the same part of the brain. I can see an obvious connection between the two, and as someone who studied maths at A-level and is doing Music at uni, i think about both in the same analytical way.
#13
I'm horrible at math, very musical
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#14
im good at maths, im doing my degree in astrophysics lol. im not bad at guitar and piano but im horrible at composing anything. notes in scales etc are all mathematically related. ie in terms of frequency every octave has exactly twice the frequency of the octave below, A3 is 220HZ, A4 is 440HZ, a5 is 880 HZ an so on.
ive heard before that logical, mathmatically minded people are often better at, and/or more interested in music
#15
I'm pretty good at maths, except for that ****ing algebra.
I'm pretty good at music too.
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#17
I get As in math and I'm creative musically.


There's no link though.
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#18
I'm shit at maths, and fairly shit at the mathematical aspects of music as well. Transposing notes into different keys or scales or whatever takes far longer than it should.
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#19
In medieval times music was considered mathematical.
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#20
I have a quick question: Why is it called "Maths?" Like, with an "s?" I'm mathematically retarded, so my knowledge stops at basic algebra. It seems to me that it's more learned people that call it "maths."
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#21
They both work the Prefrontal Cortex, so they help eachother. I found that I'm naturally pretty good at the exact-subjects, such as maths, physics, chemistry etc, and I found that picking up my two instruments(piano and guitar) was pretty easy. I'm not good at both, but I'm autodictat in both, and can play decently.
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I have a quick question: Why is it called "Maths?" Like, with an "s?" I'm mathematically retarded, so my knowledge stops at basic algebra. It seems to me that it's more learned people that call it "maths."

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I have a quick question: Why is it called "Maths?" Like, with an "s?" I'm mathematically retarded, so my knowledge stops at basic algebra. It seems to me that it's more learned people that call it "maths."


its just 'maths' in the UK and 'math' in the US, im 99% certain that its entirely where you come from/study not how pro you are at it that decides which you say.

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it still is, notes that go well with each other follow a mathematical pattern. if you play a note that breaks the pattern, it will sound wrong
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I have a quick question: Why is it called "Maths?" Like, with an "s?" I'm mathematically retarded, so my knowledge stops at basic algebra. It seems to me that it's more learned people that call it "maths."


It's because it's short for Mathematics But yeah, it all depends from where you come from.
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#28
There is no substantial connections between math and music. Numerical calculations involved in music are petty details that fail to represent any overarching principles of either music or math. However, both math and music are concepts of abstractions.

Knowing the details of music theory does not necessarily suggest that you would be good at math. Likewise, knowing formulas of math does not suggest that you are good at music. This is because these are tangible details that are memorized by rote, and does not really stem from aptitude and comprehending the abstract. However, being able to identify or create logical patterns and architecture would be the highest level of thinking and only then it is likely that this person can become good at any abstract science, be it math, music or physics.

Also, the Mozart Effect has long been debunked, fortunately. The idea of anybody listening to Mozart to feel smarter is both insulting and pathetic.

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ITT: Weird foreign people adding an "s" to the end of math.

On topic: I'm horrible at math but good with music. And by horrible at math I mean barely scraping by with a passing grade through high school.
#31
I'm talented at mathematics, but kind of mediocre at music.
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I was joint top highest in the country in my maths SAT in year 6 98/100
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#33
I suck at math but I'm good at music
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There is no substantial connections between math and music. Numerical calculations involved in music are petty details that fail to represent any overarching principles of either music or math. However, both math and music are concepts of abstractions.

Knowing the details of music theory does not necessarily suggest that you would be good at math. Likewise, knowing formulas of math does not suggest that you are good at music. This is because these are tangible details that are memorized by rote, and does not really stem from aptitude and comprehending the abstract. However, being able to identify or create logical patterns and architecture would be the highest level of thinking and only then it is likely that this person can become good at any abstract science, be it math, music or physics.


music is the way it is because of the physics of vibrating waves on a string or in the air inside a brass instrument.
and if you take the fourier transform of a wave of a particular note on a particular instrument, you literally get an equation of that note which can be calculated and recreated on a computer. in a way, absolutely everything is based on numbers and math.

also music contains mathematical structure, ie time, rhythm, or periodicity.
octaves, perfect 3rds, 5ths etc are all intege-r multiples of their fundamental note.
many composers have used the fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio to enhance their music.

with out math we would never be able to understand music, or to build instruments. we wouldnt be able to tune.
you talk like you dont really know what math is, i know that math can be very out there, and abstract like you say, but there is nothing abstract about the math that developed music, were talking adding, some multiplying, maybe the odd division. and physics is not abstract, physics is LAW!

mozart effect, yep agree with you there, to me it didnt even need to be 'proved' wrong, whoever suggested it in the first place should have just been slapped.

anyway, i think a flare for numbers and patterns helps you to understand music better.


im assuming most of you play guitar... ive often wondered if everyone thinks about music in the same way as they play. for example, when i play guitar, if its a song i know by memory, ill know most of the fret numbers for each note. the rest i remeber as a shape or pattern like, if on one string i play 9-7-5, i remember the 9, and 2 less, and then 2 less again etc.
as i said i am a very mathsy person, does anyone else do this or am i a freak?
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I was joint top highest in the country in my maths SAT in year 6 98/100

I got 99/100 No idea how that related to the rest of the country that year though.

I'm good at maths but awful at music - the stuff I play is basically just excerpts and little licks from other people thrown together. Every time I try to learn theory, I find it boring and can't bring myself to read more than a few paragraphs which is the opposite of how I am with maths - I enjoy learning maths and can read into without any boredom at all.
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I'm good at both maths and writing music
#37
People say this all the time, of course there is some basic math involved in music theory, but it isn't like it's calculus based or anything like that...


And of course there is a ton of physics behind music, but there is a ton of physics behind pretty much everything. One doesn't need to know the physics of sound in order to be a good musician.
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#38
I'm good at maths and music.
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I got 99/100 No idea how that related to the rest of the country that year though.

I'm good at maths but awful at music - the stuff I play is basically just excerpts and little licks from other people thrown together. Every time I try to learn theory, I find it boring and can't bring myself to read more than a few paragraphs which is the opposite of how I am with maths - I enjoy learning maths and can read into without any boredom at all.



get your theory from youtube. They have an absolutely great teacher on it.
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